Modern Vespa

Hoping the term "tug" is correct. Looking for a base to eventually build a scooter/sidecar platform. I know I can up cc's on both to a point and that the 05 has a front disc. Thanks for any intel.

2005 with P200 motor.

What Christopher said.

That front disc is handy for stopping and ultimately, there's no replacement for displacement, especially hauling a hack.

This ^^^.

P200 if you have to choose.

yes, but note the 200 gearing will need to change in order to better pull it.

I have a 2005 PX150 with a stock motor, a Road 2 exhaust and a 20/20 carb that has had a lot of attention so the scooter runs great--for what it is. I cannot imagine what a dog that thing would be if you add a sidecar and then maybe stick a person in the sidecar.

Thanks for all the great replies- one more question. Looking online I see a big bore kit to that would bring the 150 to 190cc. That would enable me to have an approx 25 year newer wiring, brakes etc. You guys would still go with the P200e? Again thanks this really is helpful.

If you're willing to kit it just get the PX IMO. I love my 200 (needs to be rebuilt though 😞), but the brakes and newer electrics are a big deal and the gearing will be better for hauling

Agree with Xantufrog, get the 05. You will have to regear it to pull the hack. Be aware that after the engine and trany work, your top speed is going to be 45 mph. And you are going to be going thru front tires more often. I had a BMW 75/7 with a sidecar and it can be fun with the right bike and conditions.

CM2 would beg to differ about 45MPH, but that's also not a normal hack he rolls around on...

You are right about that, but that man is on a whole other level.

Thanks for everyone's advice it really helped. I have found a P200e that we are going to refresh and go through all the internals. May boost the engine with the 210 kit and or change some gearing to handle the hills in my neighborhood and surrounding area.

Definitely look into the gearing. Since you are in Atlanta, give Matt at Scooter Mercato a call and ask his opinion on what you want to do. Guy knows his stuff, and will keep you from spending money needlessly.

Wait, you're in ATL? I didn't notice that. We should go for a ride sometime. I never see vintage scoots around here on the road. Although there was a lovely Rally for sale I was fantasizing about grabbing

I'm from atl - and I do have a hack - its tru.
Front disc is a must which ever direction you go - cause - well - stopping is good.
Arguably easier to kit a 150 than put a front disc on - so perhaps a toss up.
You can get plenty of juice out of a 150 with a kit.
Something torquey like a BGM will bring smiles to your face and tears to your eyes.
The tears will be from fear and Nadia Como-neeechi level yoga moves when you turn right.
A stearing damper will help.
A few degrees of toe in will also add some stability and tracking.
Matt Giver - who is out of Scooter Mercato knows a thing or two 'bout hacks - so ingratiate yourself if you can.
Y'all come back now. Ya hear?
-CM