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Or does it get too hot in there?

I have a 2022 GTS 300 SuperTech and I'm trying to keep accessories as minimal as possible since I really like the look of the scoot in its stock form.

My original plan was to keep my iPhone in the glovebox, connected to the stock USB port, whenever I needed to use it for navigation (either via the built-in navigation feature in the dash, audio prompts in my helmet, or a Beeline Moto). Then I remembered that the glovebox can get pretty warm and started to wonder if it would have negative effects on my phone.

Does anyone keep their phone in their glovebox? If so, have you run into any problems?
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... Does anyone keep their phone in their glovebox? If so, have you run into any problems?
I do not. If I were to have an "off," for example, it would be on my personal possession. I also have 2 MC's, hence, I keep it on my possession, at all times.
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I do not. If I were to have an "off," for example, it would be on my personal possession. I also have 2 MC's, hence, I keep it on my possession, at all times.
That's a good point, but unfortunately there are times when I need to keep my phone charged. I do have a cellular Apple Watch for situationss like what you described though.
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That's a good point, but unfortunately there are times when I need to keep my phone charged. I do have a cellular Apple Watch for situationss like what you described though.
I also have a cellular Apple Watch. I try to ensure my safety the best I can. Surely, there are others who have quite differing opinions than mine. Best to you! -BBM
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I have a Ram mount for my phone but I don't always use it and sometimes do put my phone in the glovebox. It does get a bit warm in there but I haven't noticed anything happening to my phone yet...fingers crossed. I'm still in engine break-in mode though and usually don't ride for more than an hour at a time.
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My last phone died while in the glove box of my supertech. long warm day and bumpy roads ...

I now keep my phone in my jacket pocket and use my custom app + google maps (displayed on supertech dash via my app) + bluetooth helmet
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My last phone died while in the glove box of my supertech. long warm day and bumpy roads ...

I now keep my phone in my jacket pocket and use my custom app + google maps (displayed on supertech dash via my app) + bluetooth helmet
Ahhh, that's what I was afraid of. I don't plan on using my phone's display for navigation (I'll either use the SuperTech's built-in nav, audio prompts to my bluetooth headset, or Beeline Moto), but I did want to have a way of charging it on longer trips without needing to mount it on the scooter.

Might just end up getting an external battery pack and keeping my phone in my top case.
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Ahhh, that's what I was afraid of. I don't plan on using my phone's display for navigation (I'll either use the SuperTech's built-in nav, audio prompts to my bluetooth headset, or Beeline Moto), but I did want to have a way of charging it on longer trips without needing to mount it on the scooter.

Might just end up getting an external battery pack and keeping my phone in my top case.
Too be fair the phone was 2 years old and i am a very heavy user as I'm mobile app developer.

So don't really know if it just felt like dying, or was it prolonged warmth* or all the bumps on corrugated / washboard gravel roads.

* Note: when running navigation the phone had notably more work to do making it warmer. Plus more importantly when you stick a phone on charge it can get very warm.
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The glove box heats up. Not an ideal place to keep the phone. Nor is the pet carrier a good place.
Short 10-35-40 min rides it wont be a problem but longer times only makes it warmer.
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This has made me curious, since I actually thought the glovebox was a good place to put the phone. I mean: I want to be able to charge the thing while riding.

On the next longer ride, I'm going to put a thermometer in the glovebox and see what temps I get. And will report back here .
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This has made me curious, since I actually thought the glovebox was a good place to put the phone. I mean: I want to be able to charge the thing while riding.

On the next longer ride, I'm going to put a thermometer in the glovebox and see what temps I get. And will report back here .
Exactly! Looking forward to your results!
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On the next longer ride, I'm going to put a thermometer in the glovebox and see what temps I get. And will report back here .
Ah, science! Razz emoticon Clap emoticon
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Interesting...
I've always put both my wallet and my iPhone in the glovebox when riding - have never had any issues. It can get a bit warm in there , but I wouldn't say "hot".... But, I rarely ride more than 60-90 minutes at a time, and being New England, isn't smoking hot outside. If it was that warm, I'd take a car....
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Interesting...
I've always put both my wallet and my iPhone in the glovebox when riding - have never had any issues. It can get a bit warm in there , but I wouldn't say "hot".... But, I rarely ride more than 60-90 minutes at a time, and being New England, isn't smoking hot outside. If it was that warm, I'd take a car....

It isn't even the amount of time you ride as much as how much of that riding is stop and go riding which tends to get the fan on more often than not.
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Interesting...
I've always put both my wallet and my iPhone in the glovebox when riding - have never had any issues. It can get a bit warm in there , but I wouldn't say "hot".... But, I rarely ride more than 60-90 minutes at a time, and being New England, isn't smoking hot outside. If it was that warm, I'd take a car....

+1... But, it is smoking hot in New England sometimes, at least in Connecticut. Like unreal, 95+ degrees Fahrenheit and incredibly humid. I've been to Vegas in August and felt 110 degree F temps, and Connecticut feels hotter and more disgusting when the temp hits 95+. But I've never had a problem keeping my iPhone (which is replaced every 2-3 years) in the glove box.
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It isn't even the amount of time you ride as much as how much of that riding is stop and go riding which tends to get the fan on more often than not.
Hm…well the day I picked up my Vespa it was 100F with blazing sun and I rode for a few hours in stop and go traffic during which the fan turned on multiple times. Am I setting myself up for success yet? Razz emoticon
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Hi Guys, Quadlock are great you Can attach them to the mirror And the case is very robust.
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Hm…well the day I picked up my Vespa it was 100F with blazing sun and I rode for a few hours in stop and go traffic during which the fan turned on multiple times. Am I setting myself up for success yet? Razz emoticon
Maybe it is not that hot then. I just avoid it for my own sanity...
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It isn't even the amount of time you ride as much as how much of that riding is stop and go riding which tends to get the fan on more often than not.
Between lane splitting and coastal weather, my fan has come on maybe once or twice per year.

I've never thought twice about using the glovebox if my phone needs a top off while riding. I've also never noticed it getting hot in there. As far as elements in the glovebox go, I'm more concerned for rain than heat.
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i keep my phone in a quad lock mirror mount +shock dampener. my glove box get too warmer than i'd like for storing a phone/lithium battery.

and as other have mentioned i also use the scooterwest knee pad usb port.

found a coiled charging cable at home depot that makes a huge difference. (they are also listed as helix cable now)
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Yes, i do. With hotspot turned on so my Tomtom can use the Wifi.
Iphone SE(2020). No temperature issues yet.
I have a piece of cloth to wipe my helmet, i jam it behind the phone so it does not bounce around (Belgium roads).
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I have a glove box bag similar to this:

https://www.scooterwest.com/glove-box-bag-black-vespa-gts.html

I have a usb outlet in the knee pad and keep the phone in the glove box bag and have a charge cord so it can be charged on the go if needed.

I also keep my wallet, reading glasses, etc in the bag and it has a water bottle holder also. Very handy.
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I have a glove box bag similar to this:

https://www.scooterwest.com/glove-box-bag-black-vespa-gts.html

I have a usb outlet in the knee pad and keep the phone in the glove box bag and have a charge cord so it can be charged on the go if needed.

I also keep my wallet, reading glasses, etc in the bag and it has a water bottle holder also. Very handy.
I also got a glovebox bag similar to that one because, like you said, it seems super handy. I ended up not really liking it, though, because it made closing the glovebox very difficult.
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I second the Quadlock recommendation, it's quite low-profile compared to the other mounts out there. I don't generally store my phone in the glovebox, but I picked up a "flat" USB charging cable which works easily plugged into the port and running out through the (closed) glovebox to my phone, if I happen to need it plugged in while in use for GPS.
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I keep my iPhone in there all the time to charge, short trips, long trips, city, freeway.
Nothing bad has every happened to it
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Quadlock for me. I run a USB cable from the outlet in the glovebox to the phone. The glovebox will close with the USB cord running through it. And if I'm not going to be riding for long, I just skip using the USB cable.

Make sure to get the vibration dampening pad for the Quadlock. There are a lot of online videos about phone cameras being damaged by vibrations. The pad is not too expensive and fits seamlessly on the Quadlock. I haven't had any problems with vibration (on the scooter or my motorcycle).

The one downside to Quadlock is you have to buy their phone case (the back has a circular opening that mates to the Quadlock).
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when I'm doing multi day trips I also take a spare phone without a simcard (I can swap the card)
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Today, my wifes phone over heated while riding for 30 miles on the freeway. So its a no for us. We have a phone mount but her phone is too big to fit on that.
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Might just end up getting an external battery pack and keeping my phone in my top case.
I learned the hard way that the flimsy latch of the top case sprays all contents across the road during unexpected "offs"

Best to keep the phone (and anything else important) on your person.
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I promised to get back to you all when I checked the temp. Today, during long rides in mountaines areas and at around 17 C outside temperature, the temperature inside the glovebox was around 31 C.

(You imperial folks will need to do your Fahrenheit conversion )
Or 30.9 C, to be precise
Or 30.9 C, to be precise
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Mopmop wrote:
I promised to get back to you all when I checked the temp. Today, during long rides in mountaines areas and at around 17 C outside temperature, the temperature inside the glovebox was around 31 C.

(You imperial folks will need to do your Fahrenheit conversion )
a phone at 31 is liveable. BUT when the phone is on charge which makes it hotter and running gps app and it's also wrapped in something to reduce the damage from bumping etc ... plenty hotter.
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a phone at 31 is liveable. BUT when the phone is on charge which makes it hotter and running gps app and it's also wrapped in something to reduce the damage from bumping etc ... plenty hotter.
True. Plus: on a hot Summer day when the outside temperature is higher, the inside temperature will be as well.

What's obvious is that the glovebox is actively warmed, I expect by the heat from the radiators. It has to go somewhere, after all.
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