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Just back from our "Snakes on the Trace" not-rally. Rode about 300 miles on the Lammy. Bike ran great, even doing a couple of 80 mile non-stop stretches at 55-65 MPH and rolling hills along the Nachez Trace. That 50 MPH speed limit is just a recommendation. Good news is that the exhaust fix seems to have worked perfectly.

Now if you're wondering the difference between a not-rally and a rally, rallies have patches and t-shirts and sign-ups and planning committees and require work. Not-rallies pick a destination, provide a link to where everyone should stay, and have a rough idea of where we want to ride. After that, it's just hanging out and riding. No effort required.

We had about 20 people in total, with a dozen or so of us riding. I rode down from Nashville and one member rode up from Alabama. We stayed at a campground (almost everyone rented a cabin or brought an RV) and it was amazing fall weather. Cold at night, but clear blue skies and 70-ish during the day. Ride all day, firepit all night. Amazing scenery with the leaves turning and clear blue skies.

Saturday, we rode over to Columbia, Tennessee, where we got a tour of some of Mike Wolfe's (American Pickers guy) warehouse/collection. Saw an amazing number of bikes and scooters, all of them generally 100% original. He collects, but does not restore. Super nice guy, great host, didn't mind us wandering around drooling on his stuff. Everyone had a different ZOMG! moment, as he has an amazing collection of vintage motorcycles and scooters.

What blew me away personally was that he had *three* Vincent Black Shadow's. One OG-but-serviceable, one either super-well preserved or restored, and one that was more of a project.

Loads of early 20th century motorized bicycles and early motorcycles. Weird scooters. Plus all sorts of vintage automotive & motorcycle signs and paraphenalia, gas pumps, helmets and riding gear. Just a super cool time all around.

Mechanically, I had two issues on the trip, both of them carb-related. First, during the group ride on Saturday, my carb float got stuck, so fuel was flooding the carb and streaming onto the ground. A couple taps on the float bowl cover with a wrench sorted it out, though.

Then, on the ride home today, things got a little exciting when it felt like a seize at 65 MPH, but the motor was trying to run, so I knew it had to be something else. Turns out, the circlip on my carb needle broke. Luckily, I had a spare, so it was an easy fix, but I was pretty irritated during that first minute before I figured out what was going on. Snapped on a new circlip, put it back together, and good-to-go.

Fortunately, one of my clubmates was not far behind me, so he pulled over for moral support and documenting me in my time of distress. What are friends for, right? Razz emoticon

So awesome riding, awesome times with friends, getting to see some really cool stuff, and now I'm home safe, sound, and ready for the next one.
View from the campsite
View from the campsite
Just some scooters, doin' their scooter thing
Just some scooters, doin' their scooter thing
That looks safe
That looks safe
A Maico-Mobile, something you don't see every day
A Maico-Mobile, something you don't see every day
Oh, hey!
Oh, hey!
I'm not sure what this sign says, hoping someone can explain it for me
I'm not sure what this sign says, hoping someone can explain it for me
Gozer, our rally mascot
Gozer, our rally mascot
Me in my natural state
Me in my natural state
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Sounds like a great trip. Lammy getting it done for you. No biggie on the clip. I like the non rally idea.
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Great trip report CM1 and meeting Mike Wolfe and seeing the collection is rad. 300 miles on a scooter would take a week long recovery for me glad you made it home safely and no major injuries to you and your machine.
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DUDE - what an awesome weekend! Sounds like so much fun. Thanks for the writeup and pictures!
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Little shake down run before next months rally!
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C-man, you are a god, a scoot god I tell you!
If I were a god, I'd use my god-powers and grow some hair on top of my head!

Glad you all enjoyed the the write-up. Words and a few pictures really don't do justice to what a special time a good rally is. We're already kicking around ideas for the next one. Do our own little Anrollen in the spring, which will be here soon enough.
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Lookin' good!

What's the rally? The "Oh thank gawd it's finally cool enough to ride" ? Razz emoticon Razz emoticon Razz emoticon
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Lookin' good!

What's the rally? The "Oh thank gawd it's finally cool enough to ride" ? Razz emoticon Razz emoticon Razz emoticon
That's definitely one of the reasons!

And the rally's the Fall Classic! Awesome 120(ish) mile ride and camp out. I put some stuff in the Ralliies & Events section. Damn fun time!
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I ran some errands and stopped for a walk and a coffee Razz emoticon
Down by the river ... Siuslaw river to be exact. About 2 miles from the jetty.
Down by the river ... Siuslaw river to be exact. About 2 miles from the jetty.
My reserved parking spot at River Roasters. Ha!
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Lookin' good!!!
Is that the SIP side stand?

I have one... that I thought about putting on the Spanish but dunno if I am brave enough to use it.
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I have one... that I thought about putting on the Spanish but dunno if I am brave enough to use it.
Scott always has great pictures to go with his great parking.

Just Say No to the side stand. I have to run one on my VBB because of the exhaust not clearing and even after I cut it shorter to give it more lean, it still tries to fall over all the freakin' time.
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Just Say No to the side stand.
Well, for the average accident prone person 😆, I love my side stand. Yes, you've gotta pay more attention as to where and how to park your scooter. I've never had one fall over though (yet).

And the side stand is for 8s and attached to the engine bolt. SoCalGuy uses this one and I got the image from his scooter. Badass. Cause let's face it, side stands have the cool factor Razz emoticon

Scooter mercado has them.
https://www.scootermercato.com/Scooter-Parts/Side-Stands/7670697_2
I put some heat shrink on the foot for added protection.
I put some heat shrink on the foot for added protection.
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We have had a number of warm days in the 70's here, so I quit sanding the bus and went for a couple rides. East to Bristol VT and north on a winding road through a small mountain range called the Hogbacks.

Warm but unexpected gusts of wind funneled through the valleys that hit suddenly when you top a ridge or find yourself on open ground.

When I had my 150 in my teens I lived in Toronto and getting out of the city was difficult. All this scenery is now a few minutes from my house. Pure and instant gratification. Existing right smack in the middle of the moment with all your senses turned up to 11.
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Fall riding is some of the best riding if you can get it.

The Trace had great leaves, but it's been a drought here most of the summer, so they are kind've skipping the fall colors stage and just falling off the trees.

I get what you mean about riding in a major city. It took forever to get anywhere interesting to ride. Now, I can be on good riding roads in ten minutes, but even those roads are getting built up as the city grows.

And since I don't feel like I got much interesting video from the Trace, I'll just throw in a couple screenshots to give everyone the flavor.
This is what 99% of the Nachez Trace is like to ride:  No traffic, great pavement, beautiful scenery
This is what 99% of the Nachez Trace is like to ride: No traffic, great pavement, beautiful scenery
Getting on the Trace:  only the crossroad stops
Getting on the Trace: only the crossroad stops
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Fall riding is some of the best riding if you can get it.

The Trace had great leaves, but it's been a drought here most of the summer, so they are kind've skipping the fall colors stage and just falling off the trees.

I get what you mean about riding in a major city. It took forever to get anywhere interesting to ride. Now, I can be on good riding roads in ten minutes, but even those roads are getting built up as the city grows.

And since I don't feel like I got much interesting video from the Trace, I'll just throw in a couple screenshots to give everyone the flavor.
Been a bit dry here too. We're about to crush a record for most days in a row without a lick of rain. Previous record for Philly is 29 days set in 1874 (the same year the National Weather Service was created). We're currently at 26 days and there's a zero percent chance of rain for the next 10 days. And that rain that happened 26 days ago was barely any at all. It hasn't really rained since July….
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It's not any better here. We're at 25 days of no rain and going to get to at least the mid-30's before there's even a chance.

We got hammered with rain for three days during Helene, but that's the only rain we've had since mid-summer, too.

The ten day forecast calls for a trace of rain at the very end, but at this point, I feel like that's just the model trying to revert to the mean than an actual chance of anything.
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Yeah that's probably the model having a wishful thinking moment. It's at least not been hot here, so there's a silver lining there.
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Although it was Sunny today (on my day off) it was also cool at 11*C.
I decided to buzz over to the cemetery to check in on my parents and run a few errands on the Scooter.
I haven't worn a full-face helmet in years but after today its back in the rotation....at least until the temps hit the mid-high teens again.
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Chandler, those pics and the write up are great. It wouldn't be as fun if there wasn't a little bit of bike work to be done on a trip.
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Here's a photo dump from my "I know it's over" end of summer camping trip. Trip started off great, weather was in the high 60s during the day, but at night my temperature gauge on my bike read 35-39 degrees each morning. Rough.

First stop was Pequea creek campground in Pennsylvania. My headlight started shutting off as I shifted into 4th gear, so going to dinner was interesting that evening. Everyone else's scoots were riding great.

Next day we had another join us as we rode through Maryland, amazing riding through some twisties, but the good times came to a hault as my buddy came too hot into a turn and overshot it, right into the ditch. Busted headlight, leg shield and mud guard banged up, and the left handle bar bent down. He was borrowing one of my scooters too :/ We banged and bent everything back into place and continued on. My buddy was ok, just his pride a little hurt.

Made it to Front Royal, Virginia, camped up against a cliff near the Shenandoah river.

Moved on back north to Pennsylvania, where my scoot started to run a little hot, in the low 300's while going 55/60mph (stock p200), not crazy but higher than usual. Then a friend noticed my tire had a groove in it from rubbing my shock, luckily someone's spare was very skinny so I put that on, bandaid for now. Motor bushing are shot. Camped at a great spot, and parted ways with the Maryland guys the next morning.

Camped our last night in New Jersey along the Delaware River, shared some great stories, and me and my buddy made it back to NYC. 815 miles total in 5 days. I'll have a video made in the next week, but until then here are some photos.
First night at Pequea Creek Campground.
First night at Pequea Creek Campground.
We were kind of spread out in Front Royal, Virginia. The moon was so bright this was at 10pm off my iPhone.
We were kind of spread out in Front Royal, Virginia. The moon was so bright this was at 10pm off my iPhone.
Really did the fire big on our last night all together.
Really did the fire big on our last night all together.
Last night in New Jersey, weather was much warmer this evening, of course the last night of the trip.
Last night in New Jersey, weather was much warmer this evening, of course the last night of the trip.
Photo of us all together. Not a big group, but a solid one. These guys are real deal long distance riders.
Photo of us all together. Not a big group, but a solid one. These guys are real deal long distance riders.
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I love it, DonJon!

That looks like a fantastic trip, crashed bike and all. Glad your buddy came out unscathed, but I'm sure he was feeling it the next day just the same.

For me, we know we're no longer tough enough to actually camp after a long day of riding, so it's more of the "get to a destination (AirBnB, campground w/ cabins, etc.), ride looping trips from there" than tent camping along the route.

Makes keeping the beer cooler full easier, too. Razz emoticon

I don't even like to camp at Band Camp, but at least there, I can bring a cot and not be sleeping on the ground.
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I love it, DonJon!

That looks like a fantastic trip, crashed bike and all. Glad your buddy came out unscathed, but I'm sure he was feeling it the next day just the same.

For me, we know we're no longer tough enough to actually camp after a long day of riding, so it's more of the "get to a destination (AirBnB, campground w/ cabins, etc.), ride looping trips from there" than tent camping along the route.

Makes keeping the beer cooler full easier, too. Razz emoticon

I don't even like to camp at Band Camp, but at least there, I can bring a cot and not be sleeping on the ground.
Haha, yeah I'm doing my best to keep all these guys active. They all race the corsa:ifp as well so they're no strangers to putting down some miles. The camping part was just added fun. I might try to make it to bandcamp
Next year, sounds really fun.
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Although it was Sunny today (on my day off) it was also cool at 11*C.
I decided to buzz over to the cemetery to check in on my parents and run a few errands on the Scooter.
I haven't worn a full-face helmet in years but after today its back in the rotation....at least until the temps hit the mid-high teens again.
I just realized my '09 Scooter doesn't qualify as "Not So Modern" so my post is invalid....for another few years
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You're fine. Your Vespa left the house!
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Haha, yeah I'm doing my best to keep all these guys active. They all race the corsa:ifp as well so they're no strangers to putting down some miles. The camping part was just added fun. I might try to make it to bandcamp
Next year, sounds really fun.
I think we (Nashville Snakes) are going to be one of the organizing clubs for Band Camp next year. It's a great time, even if it involves sleeping in tents. It's much less of a "group ride" rally and much more of a "ride in circles around a < 1/4 mile grass track while making bad decisions" kind of rally. Definitely one you should attend at least once, unless you're a Fun Haver (as opposed to a Fun Hater).

I have my eye on IFP for next year. I've heard a rumor it's going to be further south than the past few years, so a little less of a haul if I can make it happen.
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Here's a photo dump from my "I know it's over" end of summer camping trip. Trip started off great, weather was in the high 60s during the day, but at night my temperature gauge on my bike read 35-39 degrees each morning. Rough.

First stop was Pequea creek campground in Pennsylvania. My headlight started shutting off as I shifted into 4th gear, so going to dinner was interesting that evening. Everyone else's scoots were riding great.

Next day we had another join us as we rode through Maryland, amazing riding through some twisties, but the good times came to a hault as my buddy came too hot into a turn and overshot it, right into the ditch. Busted headlight, leg shield and mud guard banged up, and the left handle bar bent down. He was borrowing one of my scooters too :/ We banged and bent everything back into place and continued on. My buddy was ok, just his pride a little hurt.

Made it to Front Royal, Virginia, camped up against a cliff near the Shenandoah river.

Moved on back north to Pennsylvania, where my scoot started to run a little hot, in the low 300's while going 55/60mph (stock p200), not crazy but higher than usual. Then a friend noticed my tire had a groove in it from rubbing my shock, luckily someone's spare was very skinny so I put that on, bandaid for now. Motor bushing are shot. Camped at a great spot, and parted ways with the Maryland guys the next morning.

Camped our last night in New Jersey along the Delaware River, shared some great stories, and me and my buddy made it back to NYC. 815 miles total in 5 days. I'll have a video made in the next week, but until then here are some photos.
That's excellent. One thing I have wanted to do is set up my Vespa for camping with compact and lightweight gear so I could do long trips without looking like a third world country on wheels. Might be easier to have someone drive along in the VW bus as a support vehicle.
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That's excellent. One thing I have wanted to do is set up my Vespa for camping with compact and lightweight gear so I could do long trips without looking like a third world country on wheels. Might be easier to have someone drive along in the VW bus as a support vehicle.
I can carry all I need with two backpacks. Air mattress, sleeping bag, and tent in one bag. And clothes and whatever else with room to spare in the other.
Fully loaded with room to spare.
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I can carry all I need with two backpacks. Air mattress, sleeping bag, and tent in one bag. And clothes and whatever else with room to spare in the other.
That's tidy. The bbq rack with backrest was the only accessory I had on my first P. Moved into my dorm room with a steamer trunk on the back.
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My problem with BBQ racks is that when I put anything on them, the bike becomes a total wheelie machine. One nice thing about the Lammy is that the rack is mostly over the rear wheel, rather than behind it, so you don't notice the weight other than having a slightly higher center of gravity.
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JohnDon wrote:
I can carry all I need with two backpacks. Air mattress, sleeping bag, and tent in one bag. And clothes and whatever else with room to spare in the other.
Your setup wreaks of trip through Baja California! Plenty of great places to camp along the way.
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BajaRob wrote:
Your setup wreaks of trip through Baja California! Plenty of great places to camp along the way.
I think once my racing days are over, and I have a free summer, I'll do a cross country trip on the Vespa.
chandlerman wrote:
My problem with BBQ racks is that when I put anything on them, the bike becomes a total wheelie machine. One nice thing about the Lammy is that the rack is mostly over the rear wheel, rather than behind it, so you don't notice the weight other than having a slightly higher center of gravity.
Oh 100%. It makes way more sense to have a front rack to split up the weight, but I hate the way it looks. I didn't notice much of an issue with the weight on the back until we were riding on dirt roads, the traction/steering became almost non existent
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chandlerman wrote:
My problem with BBQ racks is that when I put anything on them, the bike becomes a total wheelie machine. One nice thing about the Lammy is that the rack is mostly over the rear wheel, rather than behind it, so you don't notice the weight other than having a slightly higher center of gravity.
Thanks for that bit of knowledge. I'll keep the front rack I have for the P and split the load!
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Thanks for that bit of knowledge. I'll keep the front rack I have for the P and split the load!
You'll be glad you did. I hate the way carrying much on the front interferes with the light and, before I got used to it with the Lammy, being unable to see your wheel turn, but balancing weight is always a good thing
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JohnDon wrote:
... It makes way more sense to have a front rack to split up the weight, but I hate the way it looks.
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I mostly agree, am empty front rack looks like butt , just too busy compared to the plain leg shield. But loaded w/ your tent and bedroll I think it would look the biz as well as improving your handling! I have one and I like it mostly because it's so easy to remove when not needed.
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chandlerman wrote:
My problem with BBQ racks is that when I put anything on them, the bike becomes a total wheelie machine. One nice thing about the Lammy is that the rack is mostly over the rear wheel, rather than behind it, so you don't notice the weight other than having a slightly higher center of gravity.
I remember a time at a Vegas rally a guy named Bear loaded a top box on top of a BBQ rack with a load of rocks. Probably so he could more easily lift off the front wheel. In a parking structure he went about to show us some tricks which included loosing control and driving at a good clip of speed into the wall. I wonder where Bear is now.
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hibbert wrote:
I remember a time at a Vegas rally a guy named Bear loaded a top box on top of a BBQ rack with a load of rocks. Probably so he could more easily lift off the front wheel. In a parking structure he went about to show us some tricks which included loosing control and driving at a good clip of speed into the wall. I wonder where Bear is now.
This might be the most Scooter Rally story ever. Laughing emoticon
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hibbert wrote:
I remember a time at a Vegas rally a guy named Bear loaded a top box on top of a BBQ rack with a load of rocks. Probably so he could more easily lift off the front wheel. In a parking structure he went about to show us some tricks which included loosing control and driving at a good clip of speed into the wall. I wonder where Bear is now.
I would've loved to seen that!
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BajaRob wrote:
Your setup wreaks of trip through Baja California! Plenty of great places to camp along the way.
I'm planning (another) quick road trip for Thanksgiving, stopping in Mexicali and crossing down to Ensenada. There's no way I'd take the vespa down that way... I'll be at the (free on points) Holiday Inn at Ensenada, again, per usual.
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The weekend was relatively warm, so I went on a trip to spectacular place. Old flooded quarry.
It was wonderful 258 km of smooth and twisty country roads.

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