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Ok, picked up this P200 from PHX, and it arrived yesterday afternoon- FAST DELIVERY.

I *originally* bought it for the engine to put in my PX125 in TX, but acquired a motor the same DAY as buying this (whole nother story).

SO It arrives, and this thing is a true barn find. Everything is there.

I am really torn. I don't think I could handle the patina- I know its cool and all, but its just not me, and I want to keep this one. SO- now I have a decision to make- Pavlone Blue (LOVE THAT COLOR) OR P200 Blue OR Keep it silver. The purist in me wants to keep it silver, but I don't like silver. My car is silver and I love everything about it except the color, which I tolerate.

Hoping Y'all could help me work out a decision. TIA.
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My P200 was the exact same silver (the one that deteriorated the most). I went blue (love blue) but chose the one from the 2011 PX150. Azzurro Mediterraneo...
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I just love the blue Pavone on a Vespa, my favorite color
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If that was mine I'd have no problem with blue pavone based on the current situation
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Ok- looks like a quorum on blue- pavone or P200 blue?
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Ok- looks like a quorum on blue- pavone or P200 blue?
I think there are a couple "p200" blues, depending on the market.
Since you have a darker blue in tejas, maybe go with a lighter blue?

Shoot there was a really cool blue used on R180's and some small frames...

*googles*

https://blog.scooter-center.com/konfigurator-vespa-gs4-ss180-rally180-rally200-sitzbank/

blue 230! = yum
Meh... you cant go wrong anyway you go!
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Ok, picked up this P200 from PHX, and it arrived yesterday afternoon- FAST DELIVERY.

I *originally* bought it for the engine to put in my PX125 in TX, but acquired a motor the same DAY as buying this (whole nother story).

SO It arrives, and this thing is a true barn find. Everything is there.

I am really torn. I don't think I could handle the patina- I know its cool and all, but its just not me, and I want to keep this one. SO- now I have a decision to make- Pavlone Blue (LOVE THAT COLOR) OR P200 Blue OR Keep it silver. The purist in me wants to keep it silver, but I don't like silver. My car is silver and I love everything about it except the color, which I tolerate.

Hoping Y'all could help me work out a decision. TIA.
Hmmm....that patina looks suspiciously like rust to me. That being said, I'm not really a fan of that shade of silver. I have a silver 2005 PX150 that ironically I really like the shade of.
And I'm not really a fan of silver cars either. I think the reason why is that they're so "vanilla". I do really like the looks of a blue P!
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Love pavone (peacock) blue but my fav for p's has always been azzuro cina
<--My P is that color underneath my paint which I am tempted to brig back to og
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There's a really pretty original p color that's blue gray (Grigio Azzurro 723, I think)

It was similar to the silver, where the paint they used didn't hold up well to the elements.
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I painted my P silver (a bit lighter than the original), and it came out really nice. 

It looked about the same as yours. That original silver paint just disintegrates.
I painted my P silver (a bit lighter than the original), and it came out really nice. It looked about the same as yours. That original silver paint just disintegrates.
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There's a really pretty original p color that's blue gray (Grigio Azzurro 723, I think)

It was similar to the silver, where the paint they used didn't hold up well to the elements.
Now you just made my decision more difficult lol.

Is there pearl in your silver?
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This color is fetching. Probably the same as my TX one no?
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Now you just made my decision more difficult lol.

Is there pearl in your silver?
It was an industrial finish powder coat. But had them do a second coat of clear. They had three options for silver metallic, and I gust did the whole bike in one color.

I loved how it came out, though. The color changed a lot based on the light.

But I can see why silver was the most popular color. The paint they used looked really bad when it aged, but is very pretty when it's all shiny.
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What it looked like when I got it. :)
What it looked like when I got it. :)
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Ok. A few weeks of hemming and hawing (and getting some parts from Voodoo) I have decided to stay original. Silver it is. Now I need a seat or seat cover.

Going to throw the (supposedly) good running 200 motor in there and ride it around for a bit before stripping and getting ready for paint. I CAN do metallic single stage or two stage, but I think I will send it out. Did the 1980 come single or two stage originally? Does it matter? I am torn. This will be my "regular" rider around town, and the SS will be a once per month treat. the VBA is in the bullpen though, and should be at bat around December with a February completion goal.

I had a very good and best friend in high school that had a 1980 silver P, which I borrowed, rode, went to clubs in LA on, keyed (that's a story for another day) and generally just admired. This will be a tribute to that scoot.

Also, how hard is it to find a bbq backrest? As I mentioned before, it is now June and... Wallet is *open*.

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Ok. A few weeks of hemming and hawing (and getting some parts from Voodoo) I have decided to stay original. Silver it is. Now I need a seat or seat cover.

Going to throw the (supposedly) good running 200 motor in there and ride it around for a bit before stripping and getting ready for paint. I CAN do metallic single stage or two stage, but I think I will send it out. Did the 1980 come single or two stage originally? Does it matter? I am torn. This will be my "regular" rider around town, and the SS will be a once per month treat. the VBA is in the bullpen though, and should be at bat around December with a February completion goal.

I had a very good and best friend in high school that had a 1980 silver P, which I borrowed, rode, went to clubs in LA on, keyed (that's a story for another day) and generally just admired. This will be a tribute to that scoot.

Also, how hard is it to find a bbq backrest? As I mentioned before, it is now June and... Wallet is *open*.

Pics from this weekends shenanigans to follow shortly.
Original would have been a single stage in 1980. Two stage with a clear coat would be really nice as a daily rider, helps protect paint from scratches etc.
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SO- "Good Running"? Engine installed.

The white wire from the coil snapped at the coil where it comes out- now what? Can I root around in there and then solder a new wire to it? Am guessing its my only option until I get another coil.
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Single stage.

I may have a spare seat.


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Single stage.

I may have a spare seat.


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text me, kajiit has bbq rack.

I don't think I have a nice seat, but might have a frame.

what else you need?

color wise, I'd go with something modern silver. Mercedes, BMW, etc. as a nice two stage. that way you can either roll it to a shop and be all: 2012 BMW [blank] silver, or get the color code and find the stuff easy at a paint shop or order online.

if you do go blue. my vote is for china blue!
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text me, kajiit has bbq rack.

I don't think I have a nice seat, but might have a frame.

what else you need?

color wise, I'd go with something modern silver. Mercedes, BMW, etc. as a nice two stage. that way you can either roll it to a shop and be all: 2012 BMW [blank] silver, or get the color code and find the stuff easy at a paint shop or order online.

if you do go blue. my vote is for china blue!
I actually have a quart of silver 2 stage from my XK8...hmmm....
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I actually have a quart of silver 2 stage from my XK8...hmmm....
don't over think it... you're half way there...
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The original paint was single stage, but I don't think I'd recommend single stage metallic paint. It looks so much better two stage.
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SO- "Good Running"? Engine installed.

The white wire from the coil snapped at the coil where it comes out- now what? Can I root around in there and then solder a new wire to it? Am guessing its my only option until I get another coil.
Is that the ground wire? Mine broke and worked fine for years. Apparently it's a second ground. There's one in the stator wires too
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First go at rust b gone, not bad at all...

Neighbor comes over.... "You should just leave it with the patina"

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Here is a link to the original Max Meyer colors
https://www.vespafarben.de/vespa-originalfarben-lack/
Just touch the blue printed photos and it will expand to examples.
Found it very helpful in deciding on the color for my Verde Mela 302
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Hard to make a bad choice when it needs a repaint.
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First go at rust b gone, not bad at all...

Neighbor comes over.... "You should just leave it with the patina"

GRR
I'm a disgusting person. this is known.

I'd knock a seat on, sort out cables and wires. tires, tubes. and just roll.

it's one of those: I want a rider and need to make other things and stuffs ride.

but also: paint purgatory and the whole if you give a mouse a cookie on a rebuild...
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That paint is a bit to far gone even for me.
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That paint is a bit to far gone even for me.
meh. stuffs doesn't really rust here. I mean, it gets to a point and then it just kinda stagnates. unless you're like, on the beach.

besides, rolling a FUGLY beater that's rock solid with a Johnny kickass motor is always a blast. 2nd gear power wheelies are alway fun, no matter what it looks like.
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Is the fork bent or just the photo??
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Is the fork bent or just the photo??
Good eye- fork straight, wheel loose. I still have work to do in there, so I left it barely threaded.
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Maybe not exciting for some of you, but boy am I happy to hear this one run, and run WELL! This is the motor going into the 125 in TX, so I would rather not have to do much work on it.
Took it for a ride around the neighborhood and it pulls great, clean through the gears and even stops when I press the brake. lights all work, although the key kills the motor, the kill switch does not. No biggie I suppose.
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I repainted mine to the original silver. When I got it it had the tuxedo paint with black cowls and nose but I had it repainted for about $700 included fixing a few minors sctaches and dents.

Don't rush the painting of the scooter, take your time and search and compared colors then paint. Lastly, always paint the color that you like and not what people want. it is OK to ask for opinions but it has to be within you.
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I repainted mine to the original silver. When I got it it had the tuxedo paint with black cowls and nose but I had it repainted for about $700 included fixing a few minors sctaches and dents.

Don't rush the painting of the scooter, take your time and search and compared colors then paint. Lastly, always paint the color that you like and not what people want. it is OK to ask for opinions but it has to be within you.
That's the color- Silver. Two stage. The p has such a unique sound- takes me back to 1984, riding to LA to go clubbing. Kicking back on the BBQ seat rest, legs up on the crash bars.
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