Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:10 am

Hooked
1984 PX200E, Vespa 100 Sport, Vespa GS160, and a 1957 VB1 project
Joined: 04 Apr 2015
Posts: 245
Location: St. Louis
 
Hooked
1984 PX200E, Vespa 100 Sport, Vespa GS160, and a 1957 VB1 project
Joined: 04 Apr 2015
Posts: 245
Location: St. Louis
Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:10 am linkquote
I just drove to Indianapolis to pick this project up yesterday. I had fantasized about it being in better shape than it is, but it could be worse.
Initial plans:
-Stabilize rust. Possibly a patch or brace/support
-clean over spray from trim
-fork bearings, front wheel bearings, cables, wiring...
-collect missing bits (lights, speedo...)

Upcoming:
-Find a motor to swap in without cutting the frame. I want something super cheap to get it running and riding and keep 8" wheels. A friend suggested a VNA motor as a possibility, also considering a VBB motor.

Hopefully someday I will have enough money to do a proper restoration or even come across a better candidate for restoration. For the time being, my goal is to get this back on the road and have fun riding it.















Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:18 am

Not So Moderator
VNB vsc o9c VMA vbc VSX
Joined: 28 May 2008
Posts: 6162
Location: Hustletown, TX
 
Not So Moderator
VNB vsc o9c VMA vbc VSX
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Posts: 6162
Location: Hustletown, TX
Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:18 am linkquote
Cool get!!!!

Congrats!.

See deal of the day thread for a vnb engine opportunity…
(DSnyder wanted some of the other bits)
Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:24 am

Moderibbit
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
Joined: 12 Jun 2008
Posts: 8848
Location: Atlanta, GA
 
Moderibbit
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
Joined: 12 Jun 2008
Posts: 8848
Location: Atlanta, GA
Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:24 am linkquote
Nice! I look forward to watching it get resurrected
Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:44 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '04 Ninja 250
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
Posts: 5993
Location: San Diego, CA
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '04 Ninja 250
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Posts: 5993
Location: San Diego, CA
Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:44 am linkquote
why not resurrect the engine that's in there?
Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:48 am

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VNB vsc o9c VMA vbc VSX
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Location: Hustletown, TX
 
Not So Moderator
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Posts: 6162
Location: Hustletown, TX
Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:48 am linkquote
sdjohn wrote:
why not resurrect the engine that's in there?
True that. I believe they actually make some go fast bits....err... "go faster"(?) bits for those old birds these days.
Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:49 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '04 Ninja 250
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
Posts: 5993
Location: San Diego, CA
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '04 Ninja 250
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Location: San Diego, CA
Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:49 am linkquote
It just depends on your goals, is all. Probably easiest to swap in something and call it a day but until you tear it down I'd reserve judgment.
Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:02 am

Addicted
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 912
Location: Philadelphia
 
Addicted
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
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Posts: 912
Location: Philadelphia
Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:02 am linkquote
What brand is that carrier?

Sick bike and that rust ain't bad at all!
Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:15 am

Hooked
1984 PX200E, Vespa 100 Sport, Vespa GS160, and a 1957 VB1 project
Joined: 04 Apr 2015
Posts: 245
Location: St. Louis
 
Hooked
1984 PX200E, Vespa 100 Sport, Vespa GS160, and a 1957 VB1 project
Joined: 04 Apr 2015
Posts: 245
Location: St. Louis
Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:15 am linkquote
Rebuilding the stock motor is not off the table, but it gets pricey to build one that can keep up with traffic around town. I am thinking I can accomplish that cheaper with a later motor.
I am also only going to do a swap if I can find a way not to cut anything so it is fully reversible. No final decisions have been made just yet.

It will be a slow process.
Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:16 am

Hooked
1984 PX200E, Vespa 100 Sport, Vespa GS160, and a 1957 VB1 project
Joined: 04 Apr 2015
Posts: 245
Location: St. Louis
 
Hooked
1984 PX200E, Vespa 100 Sport, Vespa GS160, and a 1957 VB1 project
Joined: 04 Apr 2015
Posts: 245
Location: St. Louis
Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:16 am linkquote
FridayMatinee wrote:
What brand is that carrier?

Sick bike and that rust ain't bad at all!
Not sure about the carrier, my cousin gave it to me, works great for a lighter scooter or moped. I always run some straps to the roof rack,mint helps keep the load from bouncing and gives me some peace of mind.
Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:55 am

Hooked
various, but less than I used to have
Joined: 20 Aug 2012
Posts: 132
Location: San Anselmo
 
Hooked
various, but less than I used to have
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Posts: 132
Location: San Anselmo
Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:55 am linkquote
A VB1 stock motor is a respectable lump. You'll lose more hair trying to squish a VBB in there than learning to rebuild that one.
Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:23 pm

Molto Verboso
Joined: 03 Nov 2011
Posts: 1512
Location: Racing Capital of the World
 
Molto Verboso
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Location: Racing Capital of the World
Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:23 pm linkquote
Nothing takes the soul out of a Widebody like putting a Largeframe engine in it.
Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:01 pm

Ossessionato
Joined: 22 Oct 2011
Posts: 4928
Location: Tega Cay, SC
 
Ossessionato
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Location: Tega Cay, SC
Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:01 pm linkquote
I don't think it's all that bad. If fact I'm a little jelly Nice scoot
Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:14 pm

Molto Verboso
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 1390
Location: PNW from LBC
 
Molto Verboso
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 1390
Location: PNW from LBC
Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:14 pm linkquote
Very cool project. Totally worth building out that original engine. There are plenty of performance upgrades to fiit, and make it road worthy for modern riding. Widebody Vespa's with original engines are such a cool thing
Wed Jun 08, 2022 3:28 am

Hooked
1964 Piaggio Allstate Cruisaire
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Posts: 431
Location: York, PA
 
Hooked
1964 Piaggio Allstate Cruisaire
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Posts: 431
Location: York, PA
Wed Jun 08, 2022 3:28 am linkquote
Love the bulls eye braided rug seat cover.
Wed Jun 08, 2022 3:32 am

Moderibbit
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
Joined: 12 Jun 2008
Posts: 8848
Location: Atlanta, GA
 
Moderibbit
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
Joined: 12 Jun 2008
Posts: 8848
Location: Atlanta, GA
Wed Jun 08, 2022 3:32 am linkquote
garncarz wrote:
Love the bulls eye braided rug seat cover.
It's a hippie-mod mod
Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:09 pm

Hooked
1984 PX200E, Vespa 100 Sport, Vespa GS160, and a 1957 VB1 project
Joined: 04 Apr 2015
Posts: 245
Location: St. Louis
 
Hooked
1984 PX200E, Vespa 100 Sport, Vespa GS160, and a 1957 VB1 project
Joined: 04 Apr 2015
Posts: 245
Location: St. Louis
Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:09 pm linkquote
Seems like building the original motor is widely deemed the appropriate course of action.
Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:17 pm

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VNB vsc o9c VMA vbc VSX
Joined: 28 May 2008
Posts: 6162
Location: Hustletown, TX
 
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VNB vsc o9c VMA vbc VSX
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Posts: 6162
Location: Hustletown, TX
Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:17 pm linkquote
Sure would be cool to watch!
Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:38 pm

Molto Verboso
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 1390
Location: PNW from LBC
 
Molto Verboso
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 1390
Location: PNW from LBC
Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:38 pm linkquote
Declan wrote:
Seems like building the original motor is widely deemed the appropriate course of action.
I would say so. The easy way = slap a large frame engine in. Its been done by many, many times. But the COOL WAY = tune up that original engine and make it rip! Worth the investment, and there are not to many tuned up widebody's around here - so extra cool points for that. Plus, your Vespa will be more valuable with the original equipment, and extra bragging points for showing appreciation for the early Vespa engineering.
Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:50 pm

Lurker
1957
Joined: 12 Dec 2015
Posts: 4
Location: metropolis ill
 
Lurker
1957
Joined: 12 Dec 2015
Posts: 4
Location: metropolis ill
Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:50 pm linkquote
if speed is what you need buy a hd
Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:25 am

Hooked
1984 PX200E, Vespa 100 Sport, Vespa GS160, and a 1957 VB1 project
Joined: 04 Apr 2015
Posts: 245
Location: St. Louis
 
Hooked
1984 PX200E, Vespa 100 Sport, Vespa GS160, and a 1957 VB1 project
Joined: 04 Apr 2015
Posts: 245
Location: St. Louis
Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:25 am linkquote
No real exciting updates, but some solid plans have been made.

Gickspeed will be rebuilding the bottom end of the motor with a new crank, some gearing updates, and other necessary bits. I will add top end, ignition, various other components as I go so I can break the money spending up over a longer period of time. So the heart of the VB1 will remain with some really fun upgrades.

I have two other engines on my bench at the moment, one of them will be a real quick job, the other is a weird puzzle. I want to at least knock out the easy one before I start pulling apart the VB1. Been busy with family stuff for the past few weeks and now I am sick, so it will happen when it happens.
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