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I couldn't resist this one. The good - original paint. The bad - I'm sure I overpaid. The ugly - NOM, it currently has a heavily modded 1966 Bluebadge engine. I'd like to bring it back to mostly stock. Anyone have a set of P125ETS cases or a complete engine they'd sell/trade?
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PK's coming out of the woodwork lately! I like it. I'd overpay for it too, there are few about our side of the ocean.
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PK's….
Don't call it a PK. You don't want to upset the purists. It's a P125ETS…
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... Anyone have a set of P125ETS cases or a complete engine they'd sell/trade?
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I thought I remembered seeing these at a reasonable price: https://www.scooter-center.com/en/engine-casing-for-vespa-v50-v90-pv-et3-pk-s-pk-xl-pk-xl2-ets-motovespa-pk75-standard-transfer-ports-with-electric-starter-3331619?number=3331619

They have a hot dog version as well.

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That's what I needed! And the price is great too! Pretty sweet that they sell a version with the ports already enlarged. Thanks!
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Careful! They're single shift cable cases! SC & SIP will say anything to sell their stock…
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Careful! They're single shift cable cases! SC & SIP will say anything to sell their stock…
Like Safis said, you will need this bit also.

Description does say, 'an adapter is included'. But it just might be an adapter for the single cable??
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It's hard to resist that kind of temptation.
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Careful! They're single shift cable cases! SC & SIP will say anything to sell their stock…
Thanks for the heads up!
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Like Safis said, you will need this bit also.

Description does say, 'an adapter is included'. But it just might be an adapter for the single cable??
Looking at these conversion adapters, I like the batwing one better because it looks more stock. Has anyone used these? Are they reliable?
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I have a new LML 125 3 port 'Sensation' motor which is much the same as an ET3 motor but with the single cable shifter that I just LOVE! Changing gears with no slop on my PK50-XL2 is the business, just click, click, click. Worth converting to single stiff wire cable IMO, but I think the conversion should work well enough if you want to stick with two flexible cables. The biggest challenge is filling up those 125 cases with all the proper parts without breaking the bank.
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I have a new LML 125 3 port 'Sensation' motor which is much the same as an ET3 motor but with the single cable shifter that I just LOVE! Changing gears with no slop on my PK50-XL2 is the business, just click, click, click. Worth converting to single stiff wire cable IMO, but I think the conversion should work well enough if you want to stick with two flexible cables. The biggest challenge is filling up those 125 cases with all the proper parts without breaking the bank.
Good to know. I'm assuming it's easier to set up with the two wire conversion kit? Or is it just as easy to use one wire with with the existing gear lever? What needs to be done to use one wire?

I pulled the engine and the good news is it looks like they took most of the parts off the original ETS engine to fill the Bluebadge cases. Big taper crank, electronic ignition, and so forth. So the parts list may not be too terrible, fingers crossed!
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maybe they just roached their original cases and moved over what could be saved.
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You'd have to do some modifications in your headset. You have to trap the end of the cable outer (both ends) so you can pull AND push.
This is the single wire cable
This is the single wire cable
And these are the ends that get trapped with a small clip on the outers, the eyelet is connected to your twist grip kind of like your throttle cable. The solid wire is easily adjusted and set screwed at your batwing pivot.
And these are the ends that get trapped with a small clip on the outers, the eyelet is connected to your twist grip kind of like your throttle cable. The solid wire is easily adjusted and set screwed at your batwing pivot.
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You'd have to do some modifications in your headset. You have to trap the end of the cable outer (both ends) so you can pull AND push.
Thanks for this. I was curious about the headset side of things.

Is the cable pretty stiff? Kind of looks like it.
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Yep, think like a fatter choke cable wire.
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Yep, think like a fatter choke cable wire.
Or, as you said on my T5 thread...

"It's like your choke cable on steroids"
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or the early Lambretta C-D with TeleFlex cable
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You'd have to do some modifications in your headset. You have to trap the end of the cable outer (both ends) so you can pull AND push.
Are the mods to the headset reversible? Or?
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You would have more chance finding an XL125 97M non estart motovespa engine as i believe the engine is identical to the ETS. They certainly shared the same 20mm SHBL carb. Huge three stud inlet. Not to be confused with the XL2. I was offered a complete in bits XL125 engine couple of months back for £300 from my friend in spain but how he would get it to you would be a mystery. The chances of getting an original ETS engine IMO would be like looking for unicorn poop.
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