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OK, so I have been quoted by dealer $1500 for 'Freight & Setup' for the scooter I am ordering - a new 2022 GTS 300 HPE. Brings the total to $8,699 ($7199 MSRP + $1500).

Is this a normal/standard fee or am I being played?
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Normal.

Or, maybe, both.

As I understand things, shipping has gotten crazy expensive over the last couple of years.
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In CT 2021 $450 destination went to $499 in 2022. Prep is $199 another dealer was $299.
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The fees which Piaggio adds to the MSRP's are ...an impressive surprise, aren't they!
In 2017 they added @$1K to a $3K Liberty - which Robot forgot to mention.🙃

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I was quoted the same numbers in Orlando, Florida. Add on sales tax and plates and you'll see why the used, late model GTS's are getting close to MSRP.
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Recently got a 2022 300 GTS Touring, the freight, set-up, and other fees totalled $950 from Vespa-Marietta, GA.
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If that includes registration, you're golden. (I see you're in California.)

I paid $8800 for mine in 2019. If you're getting anywhere close to that in this economy, take it. Inflation, supply chain issues, and gas prices are all putting pressure on the supply:demand curves. I would have expected you to give an out the door price closer to $9500.
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thanks all. TBH, I think I am really overpaying with this $1500 surprise. Not sure what I can do as I already signed the paperwork and am contractually on the hook. I think not much I can do, and I'll just suck it up. Still super excited to get my first Vespa. End of day it's my own fault for not spotting this earlier.

BTW, the registration fees are separate. Here is the breakdown, not including the 4 year extended warranty ($1079).

Vespa 300 HPE Super - $7199
Freight & Setup: $1500
Dealer document fee - $85
Registration: $31
Title fee: $62
Licensing fee: $153
CA Tire fee: $3.50

Ugh. $7199 quickly became something different!
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So your out-the-door price is $9033?

I don't think you're in taken-for-a-ride territory yet. That's effectively (since mine is Touring) $333 more than I paid. Considering all the economic changes in the last 3 years, a 3% difference in price is not a big deal.

I believe there are some states with buyer's remorse laws, where you can back out of a deal within some time period (esp if you haven't taken delivery), but I wouldn't sweat it.

Take your new toy for a ride and let all the "did I get the best possible deal" stress escape int the wind. You did just fine.
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I guess I'm confused a bit.
The contract didn't have all the fees in it, at the time you signed it?
I would think any fees not in the contract, well, don't get paid....
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I bet if you haggle, they might wave the tire fee.
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JokerBroker wrote:
I bet if you haggle, they might wave the tire fee.
And promptly take away the 10% discount on accessories.
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JokerBroker wrote:
I bet if you haggle, they might wave the tire fee.
they gave me 2 dealer t-shirts. yay!
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Madison Sully wrote:
I guess I'm confused a bit.
The contract didn't have all the fees in it, at the time you signed it?
I would think any fees not in the contract, well, don't get paid....
there were 2 worksheets. One from the finance company (I did not pay cash for the full price) and then the Bill of Sale. This is actually the origin of the confusion. The finance sheet itemizes differently than the BoS.
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mayorofnow wrote:
So your out-the-door price is $9033?

I don't think you're in taken-for-a-ride territory yet. That's effectively (since mine is Touring) $333 more than I paid. Considering all the economic changes in the last 3 years, a 3% difference in price is not a big deal.

I believe there are some states with buyer's remorse laws, where you can back out of a deal within some time period (esp if you haven't taken delivery), but I wouldn't sweat it.

Take your new toy for a ride and let all the "did I get the best possible deal" stress escape int the wind. You did just fine.
thanks... I think that's sound advice...!
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You'll make up the 1500 in 6 months with gas savings Laughing emoticon
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