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Hi

Lots of rain today.. Speedo looks like an aquarium now.. Just missing the fishies..

Anyone ever install one of these: https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/speedometer-lens-kit_50534100?q=Speedometer

How do you remove/install the new lens ?

Thanks !
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It's kind of a pain.

The bezel is aluminum. You can just pry it off at the bottom with a screwdriver.

Putting a new one on takes some work. You just reassemble, but they were originally stamped on, but to replace, you have to peen over the edge, while applying pressure so it's tight.

If you can save the original lens, do it. They polish out pretty well. The original lenses were domed slightly and the replacement ones are flat. They work, but look a little different.

I might also recommend Speedo King. They'll check and fix anything broken.
http://speedoking.com/
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Kit is crap. Since you are at that side of the pond, send it to Speedo King...
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I can't recommend Speedo King enough.

On my p200, I replaced just the bezel, which you can get from Scooterwest, and polished out the lens.

It looked much nicer, and was water tight, but had that old speedo thing where it you had to tap it to get it to 0, and never went above about 45.

But I repainted the needle.
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hjo wrote:
I can't recommend Speedo King enough.

On my p200, I replaced just the bezel, which you can get from Scooterwest, and polished out the lens.

It looked much nicer, and was water tight, but had that old speedo thing where it you had to tap it to get it to 0, and never went above about 45.

But I repainted the needle.
Sorry to hijack the thread, but HJO, is that the original left hand side switch?

Where can I get one with the horn button on the left??
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This one?

That's the original American one. There were different switches in other markets. But you can still get the American ones.

https://www.scooterwest.com/hi-lo-horn-handlebar-switch-w-cover-1977-82-vnx-vsx-182143.html

The other side with the kill switch is hard to find. They've been out of stock for years now.

https://www.scooterwest.com/hi-lo-horn-handlebar-switch-w-cover-1977-82-vnx-vsx-182143.html
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This one?

That's the original American one. There were different switches in other markets. But you can still get the American ones.

https://www.scooterwest.com/hi-lo-horn-handlebar-switch-w-cover-1977-82-vnx-vsx-182143.html

The other side with the kill switch is hard to find. They've been out of stock for years now.

https://www.scooterwest.com/hi-lo-horn-handlebar-switch-w-cover-1977-82-vnx-vsx-182143.html
Awesome! Thanks!
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Thanks everyone.. I will send it to SpeedoKing over the winter.. Maybe he can also cure it's turrets like symptoms too..
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He's great.

On my Rally one, he replaced all the parts inside and sent the old ones back. He just kept the case and the lens.

It wasn't too expensive.
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Anything grade B from SIP is most likely total trash.
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it's turrets like symptoms too..
This is most likely a bad cable. I have a PX speedometer that had the needle jumping all over. Just replacing the inner and outer cable completely fixed it.
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This is most likely a bad cable. I have a PX speedometer that had the needle jumping all over. Just replacing the inner and outer cable completely fixed it.
Yup, same issue+fix when I first got my et3
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Steve at SpeedoKing has done 3 units for me. A P200 and a small round and a clamshell for V90s.
All work perfectly and are +- 2mph measured by iPhone GPS
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May I ask what he charged for the first repair ?

Thanks.
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Plus one for Steve at SpeedoKing. Good work, Good guy!
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Finally got around to asking Speedoking for an estimate.

He wants about the same as it would cost me to buy SIP's cheaper speedo..

I'd prefer to have it restored then buy a new one. I rather restore then replace when possible.. even if it does cost a little more than buying new.

But, can someone argue otherwise ? That is, are there any downsides with having my current speedo repaired as opposed to buying a new one from SIP ?

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Zero downside. An original speedo refurbed by The King will be better than new. You won't be disappointed.
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But, can someone argue otherwise ?
No. Full Stop.
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If it's the SIP electronic speedo, it's one thing. If it's the repro one, it's crap, better repair your original. Even the so called "Piaggio" original is a repro and it's also crap. With the electronic speedo you gain some extra functions (temp, rpm, etc.) but lose originality and the neutral indicator…
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The electronic speedo will be more expensive than having my current reburb'd.

I was temped by it and get the fuel gauge.. setup the tacho etc.. But honestly, one of the reasons I like my P200E is it's just so bloody simple.

I have a Ninja 1000 2013 and I never ride it anymore. I put it up for sale. I never thought riding this Vespa would be so fun.
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When I restored my P, I bought a new speedo from Piaggio, thinking it would be the same as my old one. It was a repro crap, that I gave to a friend and the mechanism broke after 500Kms. I decided to restore my original one (did it myself)…

There's no replacement for originality…
How it was…
How it was…
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New from Piaggio, repro crap…
New from Piaggio, repro crap…
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That's some very impressive work. Ok, once the snow starts to fly here, I'll send it out to him. Thanks for all the advice everyone.
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I'm late to the party but I've had Speedo King do a couple now, he is amazing. Highly recommend.
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In mine, he replaced the mechanical components with new Veglia ones. So it's basically a new speedo.

Not sure about the face plates. I think he may have had those manufactured, but are very close to original.

The products SIP makes are very aftermarket. They are much different style from the Italian-designed ones.

The US ones had a neutral light and MPH face plate. With US market parts, those are never carried by the Euro shops.
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