Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:23 am

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Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:23 am linkquote
1973 US spec Vespa Sprint Veloce imported to UK by Retrospective Scooters in July '21.


Fitted with original front indicators


Came over with original side panels missing (gash blue panels lying around workshop added for photos), so no rear indicators and rear light stalk fitted.


Some nice original details like filler cap sticker..


..and lovely 1979-80 Pennsylvania road tax sticker on rear frame


Original Sprint Veloce engine complete with rod contact for rear indicators, visible above air filter box


An original paint fan, I asked Retrospective to keep it original with bodywork ironing out completed by neighbouring business, The London Scooter Bodyshop. Frame was stripped..


..and engine


3-port engine back in and kept standard with re-bored cylinder, rebuilt with ethanol gaskets and seals, plus new bearings etc..


..and 12V electrics


Prefer European tail light instead of US spec tractor light, so was swapped..


..front indicators also removed, one of the fragile aluminium stalks had already broken, left handlebar indicators switch retained - now redundant but a nod to US provenance.


The London Scooter Bodyshop ordered new pair of pattern panels. Idea was to keep these in visual harmony with rest of scoot; if painted bright, new white they would have 'popped' off the bike. Dave Maher at LSB gave panels a few dings before etch priming


..and painting them brown to match colour of primer used by Piaggio in early '70s.


Finally Dave used 2 coats of white cellulose over the brown 'primer'. Second coat was painted over still wet white first coat so they blended. Once dry, Dave carefully rubbed back & distressed white to reveal primer before applying matt lacquer


Scoot finished mid-May '22. Drill holes can be seen where front indicators were. All original parts, lights etc kept to revert back to US road spec.


Rear view


Early '70s Valvoline keyring sourced on US EBay. Postage to UK was 4 times cost of keyring!


Union 76 & Champion spark plug period stickers added - quite like these but still deciding, would only use period correct stickers..


All done and ready to ride! Great job by Retrospective Scooters www.retrospectivescooters.com & The London Scooter Bodyshop www.thelondonscooterbodyshop.co.uk Full photo album here, mostly shot on 35mm film - https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWBn4iK



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Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:50 am

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Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:50 am linkquote
Nice!!! Very tastefully done. So interesting that US scooters are going back to Europe with increasing regularity…. My how times have changed in that regard.

I did a fairly similar cosmetic thing on my 63 vnb. Saved as much original paint as possible and then distressed the repainted engine cowl and headset to match. Worth the effort for matching the original factory paint IMHO. Anyway, again…. Great job!!! And thanks for posting up.
Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:11 am

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Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:11 am linkquote
Really appreciated the tastefully reworn covers. I have to do a very similar thing for my Lambrettas
Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:22 am

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Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:22 am linkquote
Fantastic job blending and matching the cowls to the original paint
Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:25 am

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Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:25 am linkquote
Birdsnest wrote:
Nice!!! Very tastefully done. So interesting that US scooters are going back to Europe with increasing regularity…. My how times have changed in that regard.

I did a fairly similar cosmetic thing on my 63 vnb. Saved as much original paint as possible and then distressed the repainted engine cowl and headset to match. Worth the effort for matching the original factory paint IMHO. Anyway, again…. Great job!!! And thanks for posting up.
No worries, nice to share and give the Retrospective & LSB boys a mention ; )

Following Brexit, it's a lot harder and convoluted for UK classic scooter dealers to source bikes from Europe, as before. It is still possible but there is now a load of bureaucracy, red tape, import duties plus added expense which didn't exist before UK left Europe. Not plain sailing to import from US either but easier than Europe right now. Retrospective told me vintage US scoots have survived well as owners often had decent garages for storing them, opposed to damp, wooden sheds etc - not to mention Piaggio exported a lot of Vespas to the United States.

Dave Maher at The London Scooter Bodyshop took the same approach (as my Sprint Veloce side panels) to a customer's 1959 VBA150; the guy effectively wanted a brand new resto but rat-look. I wrote a feature scooter report plus photos of the VBB in Issue 10 of ScooterNova magazine - [/https://flic.kr/s/aHsmkX2Jnn]



Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:36 am

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Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:36 am linkquote
^^^^That's slick!

I always thought distressing old metal is a cool art in itself, and doing it with purpose for these old machines is a gas.

At about 1:06 in this I do the cowl. Melted wax, paint, wax removal…

Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:36 am

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Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:36 am linkquote
xantufrog wrote:
Fantastic job blending and matching the cowls to the original paint
Yeah, Dave Maher did a top job. He finds leftfield jobs, like panels & VBA, interesting to do when they pop up and go against his usual territory of producing pristine paintjobs.
Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:43 am

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Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:43 am linkquote
Birdsnest wrote:
^^^^That's slick!

I always thought distressing old metal is a cool art in itself, and doing it with purpose for these old machines is a gas.

At about 1:06 in this I do the cowl. Melted wax, paint, wax removal…

Good work! It's a tough ask to successfully 'trompe l'oeil' bodywork like that, you pulled that off nicely ; )
Sat Jun 11, 2022 8:02 am

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Sat Jun 11, 2022 8:02 am linkquote
Very cool thanks for posting
Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:58 pm

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Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:58 pm linkquote
I was never a patina guy until I bought a '62 VBB. Under a horrible respray was a lot of good original paint, though the cowls were not from the original bike.

I love what you did with your scooter and you have given me some inspiration.
Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:27 am

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Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:27 am linkquote
orwell84 wrote:
I was never a patina guy until I bought a '62 VBB. Under a horrible respray was a lot of good original paint, though the cowls were not from the original bike.

I love what you did with your scooter and you have given me some inspiration.
Be keen to see what you do.
Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:36 am

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Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:36 am linkquote
Wow, perfect! I know some people like the original tractor light and signals, but I don't blame you for eliminating them. I'd do the same thing. My scooter is going to end up looking pretty similar, down to the 1970s PA reg sticker.
Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:46 am

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Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:46 am linkquote
There are plugs for the CEV lights. Not sure if it's better than the holes.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/294183662591?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5338722076&customid=&toolid=10050

The paint match looks so perfect! Gorgeous.

Those American light parts are getting so rare. No one likes them, so they almost always get discarded/replaced with the original ones.

I decided to keep them, mostly bc it's like a real oddity now.



Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:51 am

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Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:51 am linkquote
Paul H wrote:
Retrospective told me vintage US scoots have survived well as owners often had decent garages for storing them, opposed to damp, wooden sheds etc - not to mention Piaggio exported a lot of Vespas to the United States.
Many US bikes have similar history. Ususally, someone bought them, rode for a summer or two, laid the bike down once, then left it in the garage ever since. Or somewhere that they mostly have sun damage.

You almost never see bikes with more than 15-20k miles. And I have had a few that had less than 1000 miles.

The worst ones are the ones that mods and scooter boys got a hold of.
Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:55 am

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Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:55 am linkquote
1973 had no turn signals and signature script. 1974 added the turn signals and block script.
Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:03 am

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Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:03 am linkquote
oopsclunkthud wrote:
1973 had no turn signals and signature script. 1974 added the turn signals and block script.
I wonder if it's one of those transition scoots... build/plate date like 11/73 or 12/73 that got outfitted as a 74 a few months later.

I rebuilt a 79 p200 which *should* have had a double yellow stator. But... it was actually single yellow. Date of manufacture on the plate was 12/79.
Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:33 am

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Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:33 am linkquote
oopsclunkthud wrote:
1973 had no turn signals and signature script. 1974 added the turn signals and block script.
73 was mos def no signature script but I think turn signals entered the fray in late 73. at least as 74 sale. Dr. the mrs super has a production date of 12/73 and has signals.
Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:33 am

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greasy125 wrote:
73 was mos def no signature script. that was done after what? 72? but I think turn signals entered the fray in late 73. at least as 74 sale. Dr. the mrs super has a production date of 12/73 and has signals.
Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:15 am

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Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:15 am linkquote
ok, I should have been more specific to say " US model year 1973"

US required the turn signals for model year '74. the scrip may have been a soft roll, starting the year with script and ending with block. My '73 super was script, don't remember the month it was built.
Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:58 am

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Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:58 am linkquote
Nice work, mate!

Since I ride a totally different scoot, I am confused looking at the levers under the seat: there is the choke, the reserve fuel lever but what is the 3rd one? I've not seen that before...


What is this?

Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:04 am

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Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:04 am linkquote
David's Allstate wrote:
Nice work, mate!

Since I ride a totally different scoot, I am confused looking at the levers under the seat: there is the choke, the reserve fuel lever but what is the 3rd one? I've not seen that before...
Sight glass on the oil tank. US bikes all had the optional oil injection.
Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:04 am

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Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:04 am linkquote
sight glass for oil level.

Scoot has an autolube mechanism so you don't have to premix
Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:06 am

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Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:06 am linkquote
That explains it!
I have to premix on my '69 VLB engine so I've never seen that. Thanks!
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