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Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 1962 Allstate, Yamaha Vino 70cc
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Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 1962 Allstate, Yamaha Vino 70cc
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After much thought I have decided to offer up the engine to my Allstate for trade or sale.

It was built by Jonathan Gick from PX150E cases.

VMC177 Stelvio
Pinasco 24.24ER carb
BGM touring crank
VAPE sport ignition
Stock clutch still
And a tapped hole in the cylinder head for the CHT.

What I'm looking for is to trade for a stock-ish 150 bike. Would prefer a round tail (pre1962) but I'm not adamant about that. VB1, VBA, VBB. They're my jams. But willing to compromise if needs be.
I love the engine it's just way too much for me.
Figured I'd offer it up here first before I list it on Scootnet2.net

I have tons of pictures from the build I can email or text to anyone interested.
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Original transfer ports
Original transfer ports
Traced base gasket for the VMC177
Traced base gasket for the VMC177
Opened the heck up
Opened the heck up
Stock clutch
Stock clutch
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Molto Verboso
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Doooonnnn'tttt!!!

What do you mean by way too much?
Took me two weeks to learn how to keep the front wheel down with that level of power on 8's.

You may just need a PNP up-gear clutch. Easy to install.

Power is a safety issue on any street. Cars will try to pass you on a vintage bike, which can be dangerous -- unless you have the power to show them otherwise!
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Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
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you into a trade for a P2 or a rally180?

sorry I has no 8" John done took them all.

but I'm down to clown. hit me up!
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Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 1962 Allstate, Yamaha Vino 70cc
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Posts: 1994
Location: Philadelphia
 
Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 1962 Allstate, Yamaha Vino 70cc
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1994
Location: Philadelphia
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Ray8 wrote:
Doooonnnn'tttt!!!

What do you mean by way too much?
Took me two weeks to learn how to keep the front wheel down with that level of power on 8's.

You may just need a PNP up-gear clutch. Easy to install.

Power is a safety issue on any street. Cars will try to pass you on a vintage bike, which can be dangerous -- unless you have the power to show them otherwise!
I mean more like I'm doing 65-70mph at 1/4 throttle, too much. It'd be better served to someone who can open it up so to speak. Living in the city means I have lights every 150ft. I love the pull of the engine. Just feel like it'd be more appropriate to tone it down. I also don't have an off switch in my brain and have 2 young kids I don't want to make fatherless lol. Maybe in the future I'll come back to something this powerful. But for now I wanna tone myself down and not allow me all the extra speed that this thing gives me.
If that makes sense?
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Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 1962 Allstate, Yamaha Vino 70cc
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1994
Location: Philadelphia
 
Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 1962 Allstate, Yamaha Vino 70cc
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1994
Location: Philadelphia
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greasy125 wrote:
you into a trade for a P2 or a rally180?

sorry I has no 8" John done took them all.

but I'm down to clown. hit me up!
Sent you a message. The Rally got my spider senses tingling

Especially since I've entered into an agreement with Jesse GeekLion to purchase a 58 Allstate from him. So that will scratch my round tail itch and this would be icing on the cake so to speak
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76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 79 P200E, 66 Lammy S3
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If you don't mind waiting a bit, SDJohn might swap you for the pile of Greasy's 8" parts he's currently turning into a VBB. It's going to be slow stock-ish.
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Johnny Two Tone
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '01 ET4
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I'd do that in a heartbeat and throw in some of the extras, but I'm not sure he will be enticed Razz emoticon
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Molto Verboso
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FridayMatinee wrote:
I mean more like I'm doing 65-70mph at 1/4 throttle, too much. It'd be better served to someone who can open it up so to speak. Living in the city means I have lights every 150ft. I love the pull of the engine. Just feel like it'd be more appropriate to tone it down. I also don't have an off switch in my brain and have 2 young kids I don't want to make fatherless lol. Maybe in the future I'll come back to something this powerful. But for now I wanna tone myself down and not allow me all the extra speed that this thing gives me.
If that makes sense?
Totally.
Guess you've made up your mind -- but please allow this blab for posterity:

Been there. Almost traded-out my Allstate's PX for a VBB two years ago. The dude seemed so happy to trade a rebuilt to stock engine for a kitted px!!

Reliability and power are necessary for city driving, which is what you have, along with the Vape you won't have.

I rarely ride over half throttle on urban streets. Don't need or want to. It's more about available torque and reliability that makes riding safer in stop and go city riding.

*Don't trade uptown crank for no downtown trash:

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