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On a walk to the local bank, I came across a e-bike store and some bikes for sale on the sidewalk. On a closer inspection I see these are gas powered units. But what caught my attention was this one looked like a Vespa 50 cc from far. I wouldn't know what make or price as I just snapped a few pics & kept walking. Somehow I have no desire to enquire about stuff I have no intention of owning ever. Yes Im boozhy that way, I have few good things & thats all that matters to me, I can't deal with crap & sadly there is tons of crap in every sector of society being flaunted as being "cool" etc. It is like the general IQ of society has been brought down by a significant number to afford the masses ability to not be able discern what is "quality" be it with regards to the food we eat, or the content we consume (books, movies, music etc), the clothes we buy/wear etc etc... Enough of my rant..
Just thought I would share these pics and let you see crap wrapped up to look like quality
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Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ?

" that works lets copy it " ethos is alive
but as you say , shiny cheap but for how long ?
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Not everyone has enough $ to buy a Gibson. That's why God created Epiphone.
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Were these plastic bodied? Just wondering...
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Were these plastic bodied? Just wondering...
I did not check, but I shall check it and report back, assuming they still have it.
From the looks of it, looks like plastic.
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That is either a Long Wang 50 or a Dung Fu 50. Difficult to tell from here.
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DiBiasio wrote:
Not everyone has enough $ to buy a Gibson. That's why God created Epiphone.
Off topic but since you mentioned guitars. I always wonder why there are so many professional well known guitarists play Epiphone when they can have any Gibson they want. Just curious. I had an acoustic Epiphone many years ago and I still miss it.
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OP I don't know you, but I 100% agree with you.
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deeman wrote:
Off topic but since you mentioned guitars. I always wonder why there are so many professional well known guitarists play Epiphone when they can have any Gibson they want. Just curious. I had an acoustic Epiphone many years ago and I still miss it.
It's because when you have expensive shit someone is forever trying to take it from you. That applies to scooters too.
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Nice looking BMW behind it. Quality
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Nice looking BMW behind it. Quality
At least the owner didn't take an already scarce G/S or ST and bob it?
Looks like a standard R or RT with a monolever rear swingarm added.
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Why are ALL the scooter seats wrapped?
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Not everyone has enough $ to buy a Gibson. That's why God created Epiphone.
…or the Yamaha SG series. 😜
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Wrapped. Probably new and being protected until PDI.
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Looks like it might be a great first scooter 🛵 for someone. I wonder what's the price?
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It looks like yet another cheap Chinese copy.

Just walk away.
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Why are ALL the scooter seats wrapped?
These are all new scooters. They all seem to have some plastic wrapping on them.
99.9999% of these vehicles are being bought by people using it for delivery services. In NYC there is a service to deliver anything and everything including "escorts" for a price and for most food delivery services, it is either an electric bike or a. gas powered scooter such as these. Rarely you see some folks using the Honda PCX 150. I haven't come across anyone using Vespa's for delivery services.
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Bill Dog wrote:
It looks like yet another cheap Chinese copy.

Just walk away.
Just walk away if you have a mobility limitation...

Run away if you're physically able to.
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Some of the 1P39QMB engines are pretty durable. I doubt that the people who buy them will give them the service they deserve. It depends also on the supporting components. If wiring, fuel and electrical components are badly made the engine doesn't stand a chance.
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Some of the 1P39QMB engines are pretty durable. I doubt that the people who buy them will give them the service they deserve. It depends also on the supporting components. If wiring, fuel and electrical components are badly made the engine doesn't stand a chance.
and therein lies the rub... If someone tossed a Lifan motor into a Honda cub, I wouldn't be tooo stressed about it... but if someone showed me a knockoff made in China Honda Cub I would run.

When I was working a dealership one of our techs (a co-owner) tried working on a chinese scooter once just because he was a nice guy who felt really bad for this old guy who got duped into buying it... Absolute shitshow, screws threaded from factory, no rhyme or reason to everything, metal that was so thin you could just bend it or brake it (a gift and a curse)... It was hilarious for the rest of us. Not so fun for the guy trying to work on it or the poor old guy who got tricked into thinking he had bought a quality product from a fly-by-night business that shut down months later...
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and therein lies the rub... If someone tossed a Lifan motor into a Honda cub, I wouldn't be tooo stressed about it... but if someone showed me a knockoff made in China Honda Cub I would run.
I owned an underbone with a 50cc Cub clone motor. It was stellar, punching well above its class.

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