Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:25 am

Not So Moderator
VNB vsc o9c VMA vbc VSX
Joined: 28 May 2008
Posts: 6162
Location: Hustletown, TX
 
Not So Moderator
VNB vsc o9c VMA vbc VSX
Joined: 28 May 2008
Posts: 6162
Location: Hustletown, TX
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:25 am linkquote
What are people using as the medium for cleaning in ultrasonic cleaners?

I cringe when I see 60.00 for a gallon of cleaner "specially designed" for carburetors.

There has to be a more economical and parts safe option.

Anybody?

TIA
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:31 am

Hooked
1968 VBB150
Joined: 04 Nov 2015
Posts: 441
Location: OC
 
Hooked
1968 VBB150
Joined: 04 Nov 2015
Posts: 441
Location: OC
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:31 am linkquote
For carbs, I just use the stuff at autozone in the gallon container. I dont use ultrasound, just leave it there for a few hours, then finish off with Gumout.

*See my video from last night for reference- I cleaned/rebuilt the carb yesterday using that process. The carb sat for years prior to me getting it with the scoot.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:32 am

Hooked
1968 VBB150
Joined: 04 Nov 2015
Posts: 441
Location: OC
 
Hooked
1968 VBB150
Joined: 04 Nov 2015
Posts: 441
Location: OC
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:03 am

Not So Moderator
VNB vsc o9c VMA vbc VSX
Joined: 28 May 2008
Posts: 6162
Location: Hustletown, TX
 
Not So Moderator
VNB vsc o9c VMA vbc VSX
Joined: 28 May 2008
Posts: 6162
Location: Hustletown, TX
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:03 am linkquote
Yep have that gallon of toxic waste.

Looking specifically for US cleaners.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:18 am

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 5990
Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 5990
Location: Nashville
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:18 am linkquote
I use SimpleGreen+water in my ultrasonic cleaner.

If you have a carb dip like dsnyder, you can just stick the carb in that, then stick the whole thing in the ultrasonic cleaner. It'll work right through the can.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:20 am

Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 2684
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 2684
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:20 am linkquote
https://simplegreen.com/industrial/products/extreme-aircraft-precision-cleaner/

I've used this on aluminum parts and also use Simple green on other parts I worry about long contact times and corrosion.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:23 am

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 5990
Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 5990
Location: Nashville
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:23 am linkquote
This thread reminds me it's waaay past time to change out the liquid in my cleaner. Parts still come out nice n' clean, but that liquid is super-nasty.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:28 am

Moderibbit
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
Joined: 12 Jun 2008
Posts: 8848
Location: Atlanta, GA
 
Moderibbit
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
Joined: 12 Jun 2008
Posts: 8848
Location: Atlanta, GA
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:28 am linkquote
all'y'all're so fancy with your cleaning tools and young people chemicals
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:29 am

Ossessionato
Joined: 26 Oct 2015
Posts: 3563

 
Ossessionato
Joined: 26 Oct 2015
Posts: 3563

Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:29 am linkquote
I also use simple green. Just don't leave aluminum parts soak for long periods of time since they can get etched by the chemicals.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:31 am

Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 2684
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 2684
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:31 am linkquote
xantufrog wrote:
all'y'all're so fancy with your cleaning tools and young people chemicals
😂 nope it's what I could get off the shelf at my local store. Ultrasonic is I'm lazy and ultrasonic is easy no scrubbing.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:35 am

Enthusiast
'58 VBA '79CT90
Joined: 25 Dec 2019
Posts: 96
Location: Chico CA
 
Enthusiast
'58 VBA '79CT90
Joined: 25 Dec 2019
Posts: 96
Location: Chico CA
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:35 am linkquote
"all'y'all're so fancy" lol.

You can use regular water and put your nasty parts with cleaning solution in a ziplock bag. Only have to dump the bag, not drain the tank
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:43 am

Hooked
1968 VBB150
Joined: 04 Nov 2015
Posts: 441
Location: OC
 
Hooked
1968 VBB150
Joined: 04 Nov 2015
Posts: 441
Location: OC
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:43 am linkquote
Ok, while we are spilling secrets- I use two camelbacks- one for soaking nuts and bolts in Evaporust and after that, I clean them off and put them in the other camelback with oil.

Works pretty good for saving fasteners from the trash.

I *really* should learn how to anodize.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:43 am

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 5990
Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 5990
Location: Nashville
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:43 am linkquote
Christopher_55934 wrote:
😂 nope it's what I could get off the shelf at my local store. Ultrasonic is I'm lazy and ultrasonic is easy no scrubbing.
I feel seen.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:14 am

Not So Moderator
VNB vsc o9c VMA vbc VSX
Joined: 28 May 2008
Posts: 6162
Location: Hustletown, TX
 
Not So Moderator
VNB vsc o9c VMA vbc VSX
Joined: 28 May 2008
Posts: 6162
Location: Hustletown, TX
Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:14 am linkquote
Same.

I have one foot in the "work smarter" camp and the rest of my body in the "I'd rather be napping" camp.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:05 pm

Ossessionato
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 3037
Location: Florence, OR
 
Ossessionato
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 3037
Location: Florence, OR
Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:05 pm linkquote
Krudkutter - 50%, hot water, 50%.

Seems to work good....
Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:22 pm

Molto Verboso
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 1390
Location: PNW from LBC
 
Molto Verboso
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 1390
Location: PNW from LBC
Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:22 pm linkquote
dsnyder586 wrote:
Ok, while we are spilling secrets- I use two camelbacks- one for soaking nuts and bolts in Evaporust and after that, I clean them off and put them in the other camelback with oil.

Camelback, as in - the hikers water holding backpack??
Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:23 pm

Molto Verboso
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 1390
Location: PNW from LBC
 
Molto Verboso
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 1390
Location: PNW from LBC
Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:23 pm linkquote
Grumpnut wrote:
"all'y'all're so fancy" lol.

You can use regular water and put your nasty parts with cleaning solution in a ziplock bag. Only have to dump the bag, not drain the tank
this is a good tip!
Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:23 pm

Molto Verboso
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 1390
Location: PNW from LBC
 
Molto Verboso
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 1390
Location: PNW from LBC
Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:23 pm linkquote
Birdsnest wrote:
Same.

I have one foot in the "work smarter" camp and the rest of my body in the "I'd rather be napping" camp.
I need an Ultrasonic Cleaners for EXACTLY these reasons. Now, which one to get...

Last edited by GeekLion on Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:24 pm; edited 1 time in total
Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:23 pm

Hooked
1968 VBB150
Joined: 04 Nov 2015
Posts: 441
Location: OC
 
Hooked
1968 VBB150
Joined: 04 Nov 2015
Posts: 441
Location: OC
Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:23 pm linkquote
[quote="GeekLion"]
Camelback, as in - the hikers water holding backpack??

The bottle kind. Like a sippy thing. That way I can shake it too
Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:25 pm

Molto Verboso
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 1390
Location: PNW from LBC
 
Molto Verboso
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 1390
Location: PNW from LBC
Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:25 pm linkquote
dsnyder586 wrote:
{
Camelback, as in - the hikers water holding backpack??

The bottle kind. Like a sippy thing. That way I can shake it too
LOL. Of course that makes sense. I save plastic mayo jars for the same reasons.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:41 pm

Ossessionato
VSX, Stella 177, Stella 150, VNX1T, V9A1T, V9B1T
Joined: 20 Jul 2018
Posts: 3835
Location: Staten Island, NY
 
Ossessionato
VSX, Stella 177, Stella 150, VNX1T, V9A1T, V9B1T
Joined: 20 Jul 2018
Posts: 3835
Location: Staten Island, NY
Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:41 pm linkquote
also use simple green or purple power. Whatever degreaser I can get cheap at autozone.

and I buy the cheapo chinese ultrasonic cleaners on amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08MPZJQ5M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I've bought 2.. 1 for up in nyc and 1 for in florida. One died after 3 months of heavy usage. The other one is going on a few years of usage with no problems.

The cheap harbor freight cleaner is too small for most carb parts.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:45 pm

Ossessionato
73 & 74 Rally, 76 ET3, 80 P200, 06 PX150, 61 Ser 2, 65 Silver Special, 86 Elite 80,90 V5N 50, 01 ET2, 2015 HD Road Glide Special, 2011 Ural Tourist
Joined: 18 Jan 2012
Posts: 4374
Location: Oceanside, CA
 
Ossessionato
73 & 74 Rally, 76 ET3, 80 P200, 06 PX150, 61 Ser 2, 65 Silver Special, 86 Elite 80,90 V5N 50, 01 ET2, 2015 HD Road Glide Special, 2011 Ural Tourist
Joined: 18 Jan 2012
Posts: 4374
Location: Oceanside, CA
Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:45 pm linkquote
You guys are fancy! Hot water and Dawn for me.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:15 pm

Ossessionato
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 3037
Location: Florence, OR
 
Ossessionato
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 3037
Location: Florence, OR
Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:15 pm linkquote
Oh, and sometimes I use this and hot water...


Works pretty good

Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:16 pm

Addicted
Stella 2T, P200, Rally 180 Euro
Joined: 06 Jan 2014
Posts: 621
Location: Camden, ME
 
Addicted
Stella 2T, P200, Rally 180 Euro
Joined: 06 Jan 2014
Posts: 621
Location: Camden, ME
Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:16 pm linkquote
I switched to simple green/water with ultrasonic cleaner due to the chemical aspect that I wanted to avoid. Comes out way cleaner!
Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:18 pm

Not So Moderator
VNB vsc o9c VMA vbc VSX
Joined: 28 May 2008
Posts: 6162
Location: Hustletown, TX
 
Not So Moderator
VNB vsc o9c VMA vbc VSX
Joined: 28 May 2008
Posts: 6162
Location: Hustletown, TX
Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:18 pm linkquote
Good stuff.
Thanks y'all!
Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:33 pm

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1316
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1316
Location: S.Salem, NY
Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:33 pm linkquote
The first time I used the sonic cleaner I used some incredibly caustic liquid I got from Amazon. Scary stuff. Great if you want to avoid leaving finger prints. I don't know how I will dispose of it. I also didn't realize I had to wait for the device thing to heat up and the results were not all that impressive.
The second time I used it on a really crusty 46 year old carb with Krud Kutter and water at the recommended 60 degrees celsius, and it came out like brand new. Fired right up and runs perfectly.
I have never been impressed with that carb dip in a can stuff. I had a really old can of it and I used that a few years ago and the carb I soaked in it came out with a soft black coating on every surface inside and out.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:39 pm

Hooked
1964 Piaggio Allstate Cruisaire
Joined: 15 Aug 2021
Posts: 431
Location: York, PA
 
Hooked
1964 Piaggio Allstate Cruisaire
Joined: 15 Aug 2021
Posts: 431
Location: York, PA
Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:39 pm linkquote
Simple green and water.
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:11 pm

Ossessionato
62 VBB1T Round Tail W/ leaner sidecar
Joined: 26 Jan 2019
Posts: 3179
Location: california
 
Ossessionato
62 VBB1T Round Tail W/ leaner sidecar
Joined: 26 Jan 2019
Posts: 3179
Location: california
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:11 pm linkquote
Some of the model engine (two stroke!) guys swear by antifreeze.
Kinda toxic to get rid of I suppose.
They strip paint and clean motors and carbs with it.
Note to self: I need an ultrasonic cleaner!
What models are y'all using?
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:13 pm

Ossessionato
62 VBB1T Round Tail W/ leaner sidecar
Joined: 26 Jan 2019
Posts: 3179
Location: california
 
Ossessionato
62 VBB1T Round Tail W/ leaner sidecar
Joined: 26 Jan 2019
Posts: 3179
Location: california
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:13 pm linkquote
* I am also a convert to evaporust.
Even without ultrasonic.
That stuff is phenomenal.
Doesnt seem that toxic on skin.
Know some use it in their cleaners.
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:09 am

Not So Moderator
VNB vsc o9c VMA vbc VSX
Joined: 28 May 2008
Posts: 6162
Location: Hustletown, TX
 
Not So Moderator
VNB vsc o9c VMA vbc VSX
Joined: 28 May 2008
Posts: 6162
Location: Hustletown, TX
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:12 am

Not So Moderator
VNB vsc o9c VMA vbc VSX
Joined: 28 May 2008
Posts: 6162
Location: Hustletown, TX
 
Not So Moderator
VNB vsc o9c VMA vbc VSX
Joined: 28 May 2008
Posts: 6162
Location: Hustletown, TX
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:21 am

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1316
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1316
Location: S.Salem, NY
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:21 am linkquote
Birdsnest wrote:
I bought this little dude on sale.
Will just fit a carb broken down.
First test run for 30 minutes at 60C with simple green and water was a revaluation.
Full convert here.
Ditto.
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:27 am

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 5990
Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 5990
Location: Nashville
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:27 am linkquote
I went with the 15L model. It'll fit an entire wheel hub, which is convenient. It'll also hold over half a headset, meaning you can clean one by flipping it around and running it again.
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:34 am

Ossessionato
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 3037
Location: Florence, OR
 
Ossessionato
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 3037
Location: Florence, OR
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:34 am linkquote
I went the HF route. It's seen a lot of use and is still working...

https://www.harborfreight.com/25-liter-ultrasonic-cleaner-63256.html
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:42 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '04 Ninja 250
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
Posts: 5993
Location: San Diego, CA
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '04 Ninja 250
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
Posts: 5993
Location: San Diego, CA
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:42 am linkquote
fine, you made me favorite this thread now.

I use the one we have at work, which is huge but effective. But I'm always interested in home versions, and you linked so many I'm thinking of doing it.
Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:02 am

Molto Verboso
71' Sprint Veloce , 05' Vespa PX150, 1978 P200E
Joined: 04 Jul 2011
Posts: 1314
Location: Tucson, AZ
 
Molto Verboso
71' Sprint Veloce , 05' Vespa PX150, 1978 P200E
Joined: 04 Jul 2011
Posts: 1314
Location: Tucson, AZ
Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:02 am linkquote
I purchased a kit from Harbor Freight and it came with a small bottle of powder. Unfortunately I haven't use it yet.
  DoubleGood Vespa Design  

All Content Copyright 2005-2022 by Modern Vespa. All Rights Reserved.

Modern Vespa is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com.

Shop on Amazon Smile with Modern Vespa

[ Time: 0.0306s ][ Queries: 7 (0.0088s) ][ Debug on ][ 211 ][ Thing One ]