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Those Pinasco rims look interesting, but$$.

Really I need one OE rim without being all rusty like the one I wish to replace.
I don't see the rims I got from Kristian on his Baritalia website now.

The FA's look good. Give Mark a call at Scooter Speed, or Matt/David at SM for an honest opinion.

Guessing stockish rims are all from one or maybe two Indian suppliers. Just the bolts/nuts/finish are different. I drilled out the bolts from the worst pair and replaced them with longer(and straight now) bolts to fit Nord Lock washers. Highly recommend them, at least on the four 8mm studs.
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Protect them from dings and also rust. What I really don't get is why Pinasco didn't just shave the 2mm off their rim's thickness at the mounting holes. SIP has done it with their tubeless rims.

Maybe it's because SIP use a better (harder) grade of aluminum. I know that I ruined a Pinasco rim that ovaled all the mounting holes in maybe half a mile of riding when the nuts worked their way loose one time.
I wonder if SIP uses their lug nut for centering? With the recessed hole they have, I doubt threads even touch wheel.
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I don't think they're that tight a fit with the funky 12mm M8 lug nuts they use, but it could be enough that if something came loose, it wouldn't get sawed on by the stud like the Pinasco's did.

I'll have to look at them with that in mind next time I wander out to the workshop.
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I don't think they're that tight a fit with the funky 12mm M8 lug nuts they use, but it could be enough that if something came loose, it wouldn't get sawed on by the stud like the Pinasco's did.

I'll have to look at them with that in mind next time I wander out to the workshop.
Would be interesting if there was a cone on end of nuts for centering.
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The nuts themselves are vertical, but there's not much clearance around the base, so the nut is potentially carrying a significant portion of the torque stress, rather than the rim. The connection area is probably 3-4mm, plus significantly more surface area, and steel-on-steel to boot.

Definitely better design than stock.
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Well my Heidenaus shipped today. So I'll wager they're making scooter tires again. New tubes and rubber, yum
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Highly recommend the (SIP branded) Heidenau inner tube if you want to ride with inner-tubes.
https://scooter-speed.com/inner-tube-3-50-8-sip/

Just had a freak incident. Got literally screwed!
This is only the third time I've had a flat in many years of scoot riding, FWIW.

Going maybe 30mph on a hot day. Rear tire imploded.
Like a hard seize, but pulling the clutch does nothing. At more MPH I'd have gone to asphalt.
Just had my first flat in while on my VBA, it's a butt- puckering experience. First flat was on my P125 at 50+ mph. Ate asphalt. This time it was at about 35- 40, and I was not 100% sure I was going to stay up until I came to a complete stop.
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The powder coat will turn to dust with a mapp gas torch at around 350F+. Wipe off with a shop towel after cooling.

I've bought three from different domestic suppliers.
On one the bolts were too short for even a spit washer.
On another the bolts were so crooked the rims wouldn't come apart without a hammer.
The only usable out of the box rims were from Baritalia Classics.
I have three sets from Mercado, all of them mate up well, and the powder coating it pretty good. It's hard to get the tire off with out scratching up the finish inside the rim though.
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Just had my first flat in while on my VBA, it's a butt- puckering experience. First flat was on my P125 at 50+ mph. Ate asphalt. This time it was at about 35- 40, and I was not 100% sure I was going to stay up until I came to a complete stop.
I've only had two blowouts. But both within a year of each other on the Allstate.
A few flats over many years of scooting, but a true blowout is as you describe.

Both were on very hot (like 100F) days, so the tires mushed into a you-can't-even-push-it-off-the-road state.
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