Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:32 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:32 pm linkquote
As the iconic Spicoli said, "relax alright. My old man is a television repairman and has the ultimate set of tools. I can fix it."

I was walking around the local tow yard last year and spotted a smashed P series in the back of their storage lot. Fast forward to yesterday, my buddy (he happens to know the owners of the tow yard) brought me over the crushed P in the bed of his truck. There really isn't anything salvageable on the scooter, but it is a great conversation piece!

I don't know the back story on the Vespa. Hopefully all the damage happened when it was parked out on the street, and NOT when someone was riding it!













Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:40 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:40 pm linkquote
Jefferson's little brother: "You can't fix that!"

Gear stack looks ok. I wonder if the holes in the legshield are for improved aerodynamics or speakers?

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:45 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:45 pm linkquote
Spend a few minutes just looking at all the carnage to the engine case!













Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:46 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:46 pm linkquote
That'll buff right out.

I'll that glovebox is totally salvagable.

And what's the story with that seat? Is it the legendary "Emperor and Empress" seat? I think I've owned couches smaller than that thing.
Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:54 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:54 pm linkquote
Pretty sure Geek Lion wants that horncast
Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:54 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:54 pm linkquote
Short frame.
Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:55 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:55 pm linkquote
Center stand looks OK!
Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:56 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:56 pm linkquote
Seriously though…

Salvage the kill switch. Those things are becoming hens teeth.
Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:01 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:01 pm linkquote
Think about how hard that thing got hit in the rear, to do that kind of damage to the engine. The rider likely didn't fair much better.
Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:04 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:04 pm linkquote
Right

Shudder to think
Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:24 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:24 pm linkquote
Woof.

Parts, and maybe then only some.

No set of beacoup tools is gonna fix any of that!

Hope he didn't pay but a 12 pack on that shizz.
Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:43 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:43 pm linkquote
Paint it all black? You know, all murdered out? Too much?
Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:54 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:54 pm linkquote
DIE RIDGEMONT
LINCOLN RULES

Did the fuel tap lever survive? That's worth something.
Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:55 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:55 pm linkquote
garncarz wrote:
Paint it all black? You know, all murdered out? Too much?
How much more murdered do you want it???
Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:39 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:39 pm linkquote
Weight reduction for speed gains. Ftw!
Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:50 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:50 pm linkquote
That'll buff out. Heart mod, some blinker fluid and ride!
Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:06 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:06 pm linkquote
greasy125 wrote:
Woof.

Parts, and maybe then only some.

No set of beacoup tools is gonna fix any of that!

Hope he didn't pay but a 12 pack on that shizz.
Last year I told the tow yard that it was worth about $20, but I'd be willing to pay $50 so that it could be used as a conversation piece. They got tired of it talking up space in their yard, so I got it for free.
Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:20 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:20 pm linkquote
Looks like a real cut down waiting to happen.

Wonder what would happen if you wrapped a wide strap around the bolt for motor swing arm pulled my forward to a fixed object, another pulling down on leg shield to keep it from flipping.

Weld a pull spot on back fender and start pulling with a cable winch puller. I've seen a pretty crunched car unaccordion with a little persuasion.
Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:59 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:59 pm linkquote
Yikes, that didn't end well. I like your idea to display it. Do it where you see it everytime you go riding to help keep you extra vigilant.

But you know that other than the stove in ass and the holed and folded back legshield, this frame is really in pretty good rust free condition. Floorboards definitely look better than most of mine


Brutal forces at work here. P200 is it (I can maybe almost see notches in the exhaust stub...)? Crank and top end any good by chance?
Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:04 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:04 pm linkquote
V oodoo wrote:
Yikes, that didn't end well. I like your idea to display it. Do it where you see it everytime you go riding to help keep you extra vigilant.

But you know that other than the stove in ass and the holed and folded back legshield, this frame is really in pretty good rust free condition. Floorboards definitely look better than most of mine


Brutal forces at work here. P200 is it (I can almost see notches in the exhaust stub)? Crank and top end any good by chance?
It's either a 125 or a 150 top end.
Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:17 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:17 pm linkquote
Looking at all your pictures, I'm trying to figure out where it made contact in FRONT to fold the leggy like that??? The headset and horncast look like like they survived OK.

Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:27 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:27 pm linkquote
That's a very good question Terry - how does it get bent like that and yet actually look alright other than the rear 🤔
Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:40 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:40 pm linkquote
That bike would be a solid gold find in Ho Chi Min City.
Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:57 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:57 pm linkquote
My bet is all the kinetic energy came from the rear. Front just complied
Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:08 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:08 pm linkquote
dsnyder586 wrote:
My bet is all the kinetic energy came from the rear. Front just complied
That's kinda my thought as well. I'm just guessing, but to me it looks like the P got rear ended at about 35+mph? Maybe it was rear ended at a stop light?
Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:49 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:49 pm linkquote
It's hard to see how just the mass of the headset, fork and leggy could do that much though. The fork kinda seems bent, can you confirm?



This is the pic that bugs me... an optical illusion? I like that you got the key too!
Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:50 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:50 pm linkquote
I'm thinking it got sandwiched, maybe. Hit from behind, pushed up under a truck? Regardless, RIP the rider.
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:10 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:10 pm linkquote
You know there are people here that might try and save it, but I just don't think so .

Pure carnage. Leg shield holes from speakers??
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:14 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:14 pm linkquote
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:22 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:22 pm linkquote
I'm pretty convinced godzilla crushed it in his hand and the holes are punctures from two of his claws
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:40 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:40 pm linkquote
V oodoo wrote:
It's hard to see how just the mass of the headset, fork and leggy could do that much though. The fork kinda seems bent, can you confirm?



This is the pic that bugs me... an optical illusion? I like that you got the key too!
I have no idea if the fork is bent or not. My leg is currently in a cast and I'm not supposed to put any weight on it, so it will be a while before I can go poking around the scooter.
Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:22 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:22 pm linkquote
It looks like it was put in a car crusher, but then someone said, "Hey, stop! It's a Vespa!" But, it was too late.
Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:45 pm

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:45 pm linkquote
Again, where's contact on the front? The mudguard don't seem right here...

"So you want a chopper rake and drop bars on your Vespa, and a cute bobbed rear end? Just tie these cables from the bar ends to that big tree behind us, then hold my beer while I go get my Jeep. No worries I got this Bro!"
Sat Jun 25, 2022 2:14 am

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Sat Jun 25, 2022 2:14 am linkquote
chandlerman wrote:
I'm thinking it got sandwiched, maybe. Hit from behind, pushed up under a truck? Regardless, RIP the rider.
I agree it was hit low in back, maybe it picked up rear and folded it in front?
Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:40 am

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Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:40 am linkquote
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I have no idea if the fork is bent or not. My leg is currently in a cast and I'm not supposed to put any weight on it, so it will be a while before I can go poking around the scooter.
I do. It's bent all to hell. Look at the plane of the front tire versus the angle of the tube. They should be parallel, not 15 degrees off from one another.

Maybe someone was like, "I want a folding scooter, but I also want a Vespa," and eventually it became one of those, "Hold my beer, bro. I got this" moments.
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:21 pm

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Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:21 pm linkquote
A pic of another angle of the engine case. For kicks, it would be interesting to see if the cases could be welded together juuuuuust enough to see if the engine could be made to run. Obviously there's enough of the aluminum case that has been blown away to oblivion that it would never be able to keep oil in the crankcase, but if it could be made to run for 5-10 seconds, then it would sure be a testament to a Vespa engine!

Maybe later this summer I'll clean up the cases and take a closer look see?



Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:00 pm

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Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:00 pm linkquote
Thank you, I think.

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Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:53 pm linkquote
Stick it on ebay, "vintage vespa P range, too many projects on the go, Ive had no time to fix. Easy to get going, needs some TLC, $3500.00"
Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:01 am

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Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:01 am linkquote
ferriswolf wrote:
Stick it on ebay, "vintage vespa P range, too many projects on the go, Ive had no time to fix. Easy to get going, needs some TLC, $3500.00"
Slap on a 2-tone paint job & double the price
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Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:30 pm linkquote
Find a good engine, stick it in that thing and ride
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