Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:34 pm

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:34 pm linkquote
He has lived in VN part time for many years and knows exactly what this is and it has sentimental value to him so we're contemplating putting an LML in it. I'll let you know how it all turns out.
The only part of any value in the motor is the brand new, probably Taiwanese clutch. FWIW...
Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:02 pm

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:02 pm linkquote
This guy definitely has a sense of humor and is excited about riding this bike. He wants to take me to a bunch of VN restaurants and can't wait to show it off.
The 10" fork is in great shape, obviously not from the original bike. The frame with all the reinforcing filler applied seems to be solid enough for the job. I told him the filler will crack and fall off and he told me the then I'd just fix it.
Aside from the worn pedal post and the loose handle bar tubes, with a new motor and shocks it should be a fine I figure. An oxymoron.
Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:37 pm

Addicted
1968 VBB150
Joined: 04 Nov 2015
Posts: 610
Location: OC
 
Addicted
1968 VBB150
Joined: 04 Nov 2015
Posts: 610
Location: OC
Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:37 pm linkquote
If you could maybe remove the tank and get a GoPro shot of the inside of the tunnel that would be sweet.
Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:45 pm

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:45 pm linkquote
I will. I'm putting it on hold for a bit.
Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:08 am

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:08 am linkquote
Definitely patched, and by what appears to be a seam at the front and the condition of the underside ( pretty clean metal where paint has chipped off) it looks like the floor was replaced . I judge it to be sound enough. They might have used some longer screws to hold the mat trim down...



Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:07 am

Molto Verboso
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1157
Location: northern New York
 
Molto Verboso
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1157
Location: northern New York
Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:07 am linkquote
That doesn't look bad. The patches look like they were welded flush with the surrounding metal with complete beads. Nothing wrong with that.
Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:52 am

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:52 am linkquote
orwell84 wrote:
That doesn't look bad. The patches look like they were welded flush with the surrounding metal with complete beads. Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, it almost looks more mig than the usual schtick. I'll spray down the inside with Ospho at least.
It will never again be subjected to living outside in the tropical environment of VN.
Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:52 am

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:52 am linkquote
I figured the coil on the SS was acting up so I swapped in this gray one ( " WATYONG" ) that was on the Bodgy 150. It ran beautifully and then became hard to start and loss of spark. Turned out the plug clip was crimped onto the HT wire with the end of the core wire cut off flush ( not stripped and folded under the clip ) and no little tab to pierce the insulation. ( I am not sure if that's there just to keep the clip from pulling off or to also contact the core wire) It was just arcing to the clip until it got all burned up and lost contact. I properly installed a new clip and the SS is good to go.
I am planning on a really long ride at the end of the week and I am glad this came up before I left. I am taking another coil with me.





Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:07 pm

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:07 pm linkquote
One month later and the LML motor I ordered from India is apparently still there , unshipped and the expected delivery time has elapsed so I am requesting a refund and Ebay/Paypal should come through.
So the options are :
Put the old funky motor back together with a new axle/output shaft and a few other things and hope for the best This thing did run ( with noise) and was ridden briefly before I opened it up to replace the worn out axle.
Or, find a large frame 4-speed 150 I can just pop in and fiddle with or do a basic overhaul to run. Maybe one of you has one sitting around ? Also, if anyone knows a good source for an LML non-auto I'd be interested.
Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:38 pm

Style Maven
'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 8790
Location: seattle/athens
 
Style Maven
'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 8790
Location: seattle/athens
Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:38 pm linkquote
I have a lo mile electric start autolube LML motor in good condition If you feel like doing a bit more work...
Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:48 pm

Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
 
Molto Verboso
'64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '66 Allstate SF, '65 VBB, '66 180SS
Joined: 27 Mar 2013
Posts: 1417
Location: S.Salem, NY
Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:48 pm linkquote
Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. It would be no big deal to delete both of those features.
Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:09 pm

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 11803
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 11803
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:09 pm linkquote
I'd say maybe put some feelers out locally and see if you can't turn up a 3 or 4spd lump that needs a quick and dirty rebuild. there's gotta a east coast version of kajiit lurking about!
Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:35 pm

Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 3047
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 3047
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:35 pm linkquote
greasy125 wrote:
I'd say maybe put some feelers out locally and see if you can't turn up a 3 or 4spd lump that needs a quick and dirty rebuild. there's gotta a east coast version of kajiit lurking about!
Swiss?
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Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:48 pm

Style Maven
'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 8790
Location: seattle/athens
 
Style Maven
'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 8790
Location: seattle/athens
Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:48 pm linkquote
How is this poor sad project coming along? I wish you were local & I could let you pick out an old engine in slightly better shape
Moto64 wrote:
....

The bonus score for me are the four sets of NOS yellow boots !!! I bet you can't get those from Scooter Mercato....
But a big THANK YOU for the yellow booties , it is exactly what I need make it official and to warn off any excited wanna be prospective buyers for my bodged 125 Super with LML motor and now on 10" wheels front and rear .


NO! Stay away.

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