Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:12 pm

Hooked
2019 MP3 500 Sport
Joined: 26 Sep 2012
Posts: 185
Location: California
 
Hooked
2019 MP3 500 Sport
Joined: 26 Sep 2012
Posts: 185
Location: California
Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:12 pm linkquote
So if I want an additional key... do they need my (only) additional brown key, or does the code card by itself do the job? And will Piaggio in the USA do it?

2 keys aren't enough, IMO. If I do anything stupid (which happened today), I need more repositories. It's especially stupid if you accidentally lock the useless remote in the storage area, at least the system should detect it and beep and go "naw, you don't want that".

But it locks like Jaws on a bikini clad swimmer.
Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:35 pm

Molto Verboso
GTS 300ie Touring 2013 - Signora D'argento & GTS 300ie HPE 2022 - Regina Arancione.
Joined: 03 Jun 2018
Posts: 1740
Location: Lancaster, U.K.
 
Molto Verboso
GTS 300ie Touring 2013 - Signora D'argento & GTS 300ie HPE 2022 - Regina Arancione.
Joined: 03 Jun 2018
Posts: 1740
Location: Lancaster, U.K.
Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:35 pm linkquote
You will soon come to realise that amongst Piaggio's many shortcomings they are also pretty useless in the technology department.

You do not need to order a new key from Piaggio (USA), you can get a key cut from a local shop, and use your brown master key to program the new key using the instructions in the owners manual. When choosing where to get a key cut, it's useful to note that Piaggio use the same key blanks as Fiat. The code card is a pretty ineffectual item. I've heard of people getting a key cut from the code card and it still does not work, so take the master to a key cutter.
Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:37 am

Moderaptor
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 41214
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
 
Moderaptor
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 41214
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:37 am linkquote
Touring300 wrote:
When choosing where to get a key cut, it's useful to note that Piaggio use the same key blanks as Fiat.
Not true for MP3 models - at least the 500's. Completely different sidewinder keys. Mon'n'Pop keycutters won't be able to do this.
Quote:
The code card is a pretty ineffectual item. I've heard of people getting a key cut from the code card and it still does not work, so take the master to a key cutter.
The key code card is totally useless. Except for applying Bondo I suppose...
Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:29 am

Addicted
2015 MP3 500 ie Business
Joined: 29 Oct 2019
Posts: 816
Location: Belgium
 
Addicted
2015 MP3 500 ie Business
Joined: 29 Oct 2019
Posts: 816
Location: Belgium
Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:29 am linkquote
I don't think that Piaggio "Master" card was supplied for applying bondo nor ordering spare keys.



Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:37 pm

Hooked
2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
Joined: 06 Oct 2020
Posts: 436
Location: Reno
 
Hooked
2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
Joined: 06 Oct 2020
Posts: 436
Location: Reno
Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:37 pm linkquote
I have a 2020 500, which I bought from the local dealer. It had been traded in with 60 miles
I didn't get a remote, but there are 2 keys including the service key
The key has a chip which allows the seat to be opened as long as it's within a few feet of the bike.

The procedure for programming keys looks like you can program/register 5 codes
Same blank as Dodge & Fiat

Piaggio just assigns a random code & the computer on the bike registers the code
Fiat assigns the code so the key matches the cars computer
Seems like a transponder car key place can probably get you going

Page from the manual



Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:52 pm

Member
2007 MP3 250ie / 2022 MP3 500HPE SA
Joined: 03 Jun 2022
Posts: 26
Location: CCS-Vzla
 
Member
2007 MP3 250ie / 2022 MP3 500HPE SA
Joined: 03 Jun 2022
Posts: 26
Location: CCS-Vzla
Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:52 pm linkquote
Garthhh wrote:
The key has a chip which allows the seat to be opened as long as it's within a few feet of the bike.

Hi, a question, as my 2022 don't arrive to my hands (long story).

This is the second time I read that the key has a proximity system to be able to open the seat with the button? This is true? I ask because rather the system seemed very bad to me if anyone could open the seat without the key being present just by pressing a button and I have thought of different alternatives to avoid it ((yes, I know that if the key is removed in the lock position it is not possible, but in case the key is removed in the Off position only)

Thanks in advance
Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:27 am

Hooked
2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
Joined: 06 Oct 2020
Posts: 436
Location: Reno
 
Hooked
2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
Joined: 06 Oct 2020
Posts: 436
Location: Reno
Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:27 am linkquote
If the key is more than a few feet away from the bike the seat button is inactive, no access to the trunk

The key in the ignition if you press in & twist, one way opens the gas door, the other the seat, mechanically
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