Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:41 pm

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Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:41 pm linkquote
I picked up a new winter project yesterday from Voodoo, although at the rate I've torn into it, I don't know if it will last me the winter. Its a 1959 VBA1T with a 1961 150 motor. I'd first stumbled across this scoot about a year ago in his basement and then while I thought about whether I actually wanted to buy it, V started fixing it up. I had to promise to not paint it but that was always in agreement with my aesthetic as well. The goal it to have a mechanically pristine scoot with a time-capsue preserved body. So this morning I woke up and got to work stripping everything back to a heap of parts. This scoot spent the majority of its life sittng in the eastern WA high desert and except for one tiny pinhole on the underside I cannot find any real through rust or areas of concern. So while I wait for a big parts order, I'll work on the body. Today having it stripped, I then went over the entire bike with a scotchbrite pad and a 50% CLR solution. I'd read about this on some car patina forums and its supposed to strip back rust that has covered the remaining paint. Then a thin coat of boiled linseed oil for some surface protection.

Everything else gets vapor blasted, sand blasted, painted,replaced, or somehow restored to pristine condition.

Oh yeah, and this came to me with a WA title and a collector plate. Only took me 15 minutes to get the car registered. Thanks Voodoo!

Hal


Engine looks pretty clean but its coming apart and heading to the vapor blaster.


This rear drum looks a little cobbled together but maybe this is how they came?


Inside the tunnel was no real rust but lots of old hornet nests.


There is still a bit of paint here, but mostly where the sun didn't shine.


This is how it came to me.

Sun Jul 31, 2022 4:52 pm

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Sun Jul 31, 2022 4:52 pm linkquote
They look fantastic when the surface is like that, rustic but not rusty.
Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:00 pm

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Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:00 pm linkquote
Looks Great. Excited to follow the progress.

Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:31 pm

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Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:31 pm linkquote
First real question. Its a 1959 VBA, so no battery, teardrop light switch, no turn indicators. Should I use the appropriate 1959 wiring harness even with a 1961 engine? I'm guessing that unless you install a battery, then there isn't much difference between 1959 and 1961 except possibly the stator and the fact that its a 4 speed.

Hal
Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:41 pm

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Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:41 pm linkquote
If you are tearing into it now, I'd make the conversion to CDI ignition and 12V regulated electrics at the same time. It would make this scoot quite a lot more reliable and less hassle. Of course the 6V balance-of-fear electrics with points ignition will work but still I'm not a fan of them.

If you are handy with multimeter ans can read wiring diagram, it's an easy conversion to modify the existing harness or even easier to replace it with new conversion harness. In addition to that you will need 12V bulbs all around, new closing brake light switch and possibly light switch with closing horn contact.
Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:57 am

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Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:57 am linkquote
Voodoo did you right. Fantastic project with just some mechanicals to work out.
Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:15 am

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Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:15 am linkquote
in the US both would have been non-battery so likely no changes needed to connect the stator on that engine. If the stator wires are not matching what's expected in the frame post some pictures and we can get it sorted out.
Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:16 am

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Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:16 am linkquote
That. Is. Beautiful.

Omg. You lucky SOB.
That hub does look like someone rewelded the studs.
Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:19 am

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Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:19 am linkquote
Oh my... it's perfect...
Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:27 am

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Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:27 am linkquote
just for the record, your engine cleanliness before going to the blaster is better than what I end with and just build the thing
Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:19 am

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Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:19 am linkquote
The casting on the early 60 engine cases is really smooth and will polish up with a bit of elbow grease.

Vapor blasting may dull that finish some or may be ok.
Sand blasting will make it way more rough and really hard to get the surface back.

the smooth surface make it really easy to keep clean.
Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:41 am

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Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:41 am linkquote
It is so nice to hear good stuff about a bike you've sold to a friend. I know you'll do the motor and running gear fresh and right, but will respect the shabby old coat it came with. You seem eager and are getting right after things, so that's a good sign!

BTW, pull the floor trim and wipe floor down w/ lacquer thinner if you want to get rid of self etching primer camouflage and down to power wire brushed original paint and Ospho'd surface rust.


As welded from factory


Maybe Luigi had a hangover, or more likely was repaired sometime since then.


Floor camoflage

Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:08 am

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Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:08 am linkquote
Some minor project updates and some questions. At this point I have a Vespa kit. Engine is still in one piece but everything else is completely dismantled and spread out on benchtops and in muffin tins. Overall everything looks more solid the deeper I get. I'm not surprised but it's nice to not find any unexpected mess.

A couple questions:
Is there a list of what color all the various bits were painted? It's clear that the fork was all blue but what about the brake drum? What about seat frames? I've seen both black and silver seat frames. The plan is not to restore but I do want to make all the bits inside and under the frame/fender/cowls to be very nice. I'm going to try to find a rattle can touch up in a blue that looks about right. There isn't enough paint to have much to compare to so I have some latitude.

Also through the frame is one metal tube to accommodate one cable. I'm assuming this is for the clutch cable to keep it from flexing inside the frame?

Hal
Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:12 am

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Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:12 am linkquote
whereshaldo wrote:
Some minor project updates and some questions. At this point I have a Vespa kit. Engine is still in one piece but everything else is completely dismantled and spread out on benchtops and in muffin tins. Overall everything looks more solid the deeper I get. I'm not surprised but it's nice to not find any unexpected mess.

A couple questions:
Is there a list of what color all the various bits were painted? It's clear that the fork was all blue but what about the brake drum? What about seat frames? I've seen both black and silver seat frames. The plan is not to restore but I do want to make all the bits inside and under the frame/fender/cowls to be very nice. I'm going to try to find a rattle can touch up in a blue that looks about right. There isn't enough paint to have much to compare to so I have some latitude.

Also through the frame is one metal tube to accommodate one cable. I'm assuming this is for the clutch cable to keep it from flexing inside the frame?

Hal
Not sure if they switched it up or not but my VNA and my friends 62 Allstate both have a tube that is for the shifter cables. Clutch runs through the tunnel exposed along with the throttle. Brake pedal also has its own tube to run through.
Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:34 am

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Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:34 am linkquote
Wow! Ok that seems tight but it makes sense as well.
H
Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:47 pm

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Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:47 pm linkquote
That scoot has got amazing patina! Hard to believe the year of vintage and the rugged yet still attractive physical condition go together. Kinda like Tom Cruise in Top Gun Maverick….. never mind.

Good luck, Hal!
Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:14 pm

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Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:14 pm linkquote
See, I knew I found the right $ugar Daddy to do this proper and maybe I can ride when you are done! Brake drum usually silver and seat frame black. I think...

I will swap your rear hub with you if you want.
Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:35 pm

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Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:35 pm linkquote
I am about ready to reassemble the front fork assembly on the VBA but I have questions about a few bits and pieces, what to use and how best to assemble it.

First looking at the exploded diagram for the front suspension assembly https://www.scooter-center.com/en/vespa-piaggio-vespa-150-vba1t/exploded-views/front-suspension?vehicle=VESPA_VBA1T

1. Part 57 -- this looks to just be an o-ring on either side of the front shock pivot. Can I just find a suitably sized o-ring and stuff in there? I don't remember removing anything here.
2. Then ouside the o-rings look to be a flat washer (part 56) and a wavy washer (part 58)?

None of these bits were in there any I don't think these parts have been disassembled before.

Then looking at the front fork assembly here: https://www.scooter-center.com/en/vespa-piaggio-vespa-150-vba1t/exploded-views/fork-front-wheel?vehicle=VESPA_VBA1T

1. Parts 42 and 42a the part diagram describes as "packing" are these also o-rings or felt rings or something else? I have steel washers that look to be the correct size.
2. Part 49 is a thrust washer that sits inboard of the bearing on the main axle. How do you keep this in place when you remove and replace the axle?
3. Furthermore how do you press in the axle without pressing out the smaller bearing, part 48?
4. Part 40 is the brass and felt washer, but what are parts 39 and 41? are these the two thinner washers that I have?
5. Does anyone have all of the little fiddly bits that hold the speedo gear in place (parts 62, 64, 65, 66). These dont seem to be available readily except from Scooter Center.

Does any of this really matter or do I just make it all fit together nice and tight?

Hal
Mon Aug 29, 2022 5:28 am

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Mon Aug 29, 2022 5:28 am linkquote
whereshaldo wrote:
I am about ready to reassemble the front fork assembly on the VBA but I have questions about a few bits and pieces, what to use and how best to assemble it.

First looking at the exploded diagram for the front suspension assembly https://www.scooter-center.com/en/vespa-piaggio-vespa-150-vba1t/exploded-views/front-suspension?vehicle=VESPA_VBA1T

1. Part 57 -- this looks to just be an o-ring on either side of the front shock pivot. Can I just find a suitably sized o-ring and stuff in there? I don't remember removing anything here.
2. Then ouside the o-rings look to be a flat washer (part 56) and a wavy washer (part 58)?

None of these bits were in there any I don't think these parts have been disassembled before.

Then looking at the front fork assembly here: https://www.scooter-center.com/en/vespa-piaggio-vespa-150-vba1t/exploded-views/fork-front-wheel?vehicle=VESPA_VBA1T

1. Parts 42 and 42a the part diagram describes as "packing" are these also o-rings or felt rings or something else? I have steel washers that look to be the correct size.
2. Part 49 is a thrust washer that sits inboard of the bearing on the main axle. How do you keep this in place when you remove and replace the axle?
3. Furthermore how do you press in the axle without pressing out the smaller bearing, part 48?
4. Part 40 is the brass and felt washer, but what are parts 39 and 41? are these the two thinner washers that I have?
5. Does anyone have all of the little fiddly bits that hold the speedo gear in place (parts 62, 64, 65, 66). These dont seem to be available readily except from Scooter Center.

Does any of this really matter or do I just make it all fit together nice and tight?

Hal
57 and 57a are o-rings. When installing them you put them over the brass spring holder thingy then slide them over into place once it's all assembled.
56 and 58 are both washers. Very thin.
42 and 42a are both washers as well.
49 goes on the axle then you hammer the axle in through the bearing. So the axle itself holds that washer in place.
48, shouldn't budge when you install the axle. Lube up the shaft well and it should slide in with some love taps with a mallet.
39 and 41 are washers correct.
62 64 65 and 66 I'm not sure about. Pretty sure there's replacements for that. Check SIP?
Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:46 pm

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Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:46 pm linkquote
I do have the speedo gear parts you need... I thought they were screwed to the bike, sorry!
Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:18 am

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Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:18 am linkquote
62 is a stoper that goes at the end of the hole where speedo drive gear sits. It is a very tight fit.
Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:24 am

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Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:24 am linkquote
FridayMatinee wrote:
Not sure if they switched it up or not but my VNA and my friends 62 Allstate both have a tube that is for the shifter cables. Clutch runs through the tunnel exposed along with the throttle. Brake pedal also has its own tube to run through.
My Allstate has this cover over the shift cables. Also, Mercato a rubber kit with the frame grommets you will need
.
https://www.scootermercato.com/90541

https://www.scootermercato.com/Scooter-Parts/Kits/EAE141A



Tue Aug 30, 2022 5:26 am

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Tue Aug 30, 2022 5:26 am linkquote
exmayor wrote:
My Allstate has this cover over the shift cables. Also, Mercato a rubber kit with the frame grommets you will need
.
https://www.scootermercato.com/90541

https://www.scootermercato.com/Scooter-Parts/Kits/EAE141A
Yeah that sleeve runs from where the cables come out of the frame to behind the kickstart lever. It's a heat shield for where the cables run across the exhaust pipe
Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:34 pm

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Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:34 pm linkquote
Just an aside, but one of the things that I LOVE about Seattle is that I can stop in a hardware store on the way home and pick up two 21x16x2.5mm o-rings and a handful of wavy 8mm metric lock washers without even going out of my way. We even have 7mm hardware, its only the 11mm stuff that gets really hard to find.

(just bragging)

hal
Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:54 pm

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Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:54 pm linkquote
While I'm watching paint dry and contemplating how to fix some things, ill pivot and work on other parts.

I purchased this light switch repair kit, not because I'm cheap, but because I love fixing things. So I ordered this repair kit from sip but I can't totally figure out how to make it all work.

The kit is this: https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/repair-set-lightswitch-femsa_89472000

Having taken apart my existing switch I am struggling with what springs go where, and how to remove the high/low switch. I'm guessing the e-clip is used here but it doesn't really make sense. Maybe this kit doesn't even work.

Thoughts?



Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:01 pm

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Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:01 pm linkquote
whereshaldo wrote:
While I'm watching paint dry and contemplating how to fix some things, ill pivot and work on other parts.

I purchased this light switch repair kit, not because I'm cheap, but because I love fixing things. So I ordered this repair kit from sip but I can't totally figure out how to make it all work.

The kit is this: https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/repair-set-lightswitch-femsa_89472000

Having taken apart my existing switch I am struggling with what springs go where, and how to remove the high/low switch. I'm guessing the e-clip is used here but it doesn't really make sense. Maybe this kit doesn't even work.

Thoughts?
the kit will not work for your switch. just buy a new switch.
Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:12 pm

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Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:12 pm linkquote
Yeah I know. Gotta dream though
Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:24 am

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Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:24 am linkquote
Ok moving forward from my sad state of mis-ordered parts lets get down to more practical topics: Order of Operations

I have a bare frame without the fork installed, a mess of new cables and a brand new wiring harness. Is there a good order in which to begin to tackle the reassembly of the frame, cables, harness and fork? I'd like to get this done while the weather is still decent and then I'll tackle the engine in the dark of winter.

I'm thinking it may be easier to at least install the wiring harness before I put the fork back in. Then install fork and headset and then install cables.

Does that seem correct?

H
Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:02 am

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Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:02 am linkquote
I'd go like this: Cables - harness - fork

This way you can actually see something as you work on the headset-side and guide cables and wires up if needed.
Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:16 am

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Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:16 am linkquote
I go harness then cables then fork.

Less chance of the wires getting hung up on a cable along the way. Plus the harness and cables gotta fit under that support piece and it's much easier to run the harness through first without any cables being in the way.
Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:59 pm

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Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:59 pm linkquote
Ive done harness, cables fork and have been happy with the results. piano wire also is a big help (or baling wire)
Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:41 pm

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Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:41 pm linkquote
Well I finally made enough progress to actually re-assemble something, which is saying a lot. I've been sandblasting and painting little bits while the weather is decent and today I finally rounded up all the little bits to reassemble the front brake assembly and hub. Hopefully on to the fork this weekend and then I'll actually feel like I'm getting somewhere. All the silver bits are painted with a high solids "stainless" look paint that pretty closely approximates freshly blasted steel. Yeah I know the brake drum is aluminum but noone sees it anyway. The blue is a non-metallic color I picked up at the boat supply that almost exactly matches the tone of the Azurro Metalico. The only place on this scoot where you can actually see the original paint all get covered anyway but this captures most of the original look.

The one question I don't have an answer to is whether the nut that holds the front axle gets a specific torque or if its just snugged up.

Hal


Oh what a difference sandblasting and fresh paint makes.





Sun Sep 04, 2022 2:52 pm

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Sun Sep 04, 2022 2:52 pm linkquote
Finally got this stupid fork assembled sadly at the expense of some paint chips and scrapes. It's makes the most sense to do the spring first and then the main pivot shaft and then the shock but I could not get the stupid pivot shaft in with the spring in place. Instead I went pivot then spring and then using a pry bar was able to compress the spring enough to insert the lower shock bolt. Also keep in mind the bigger 10mm nut that uses a 17mm socket is for shock and the smaller 14mm nut is for the pivot. Otherwise you scratch that paint too.
Grrrr!



Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:05 pm

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Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:05 pm linkquote
That brake circlip didnt seem seated- there should be a clot around the pin that it clips into.
Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:27 pm

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Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:27 pm linkquote
I think you might need to do the lower shock bolt first. There's a key way slot thing in the bottom one. Did it snap into place?

It looks very pretty and clean. Really nice contrast with the patina.
Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:49 pm

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Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:49 pm linkquote
I messed with that circlip forever. I'll pull the drum and try to clean up the groove with a needle file.
Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:57 pm

Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 3204
Location: Veria, Greece
 
Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 3204
Location: Veria, Greece
Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:57 pm linkquote
File the top shoe…
Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:06 pm

Molto Verboso
Scattered remnants of (two!) 1974 Rallys
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 1645
Location: San Francisco, CA
 
Molto Verboso
Scattered remnants of (two!) 1974 Rallys
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
Posts: 1645
Location: San Francisco, CA
Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:06 pm linkquote
Could it be that the brake post isn't pushed in enough?

Mine is a bit later style, but it's held in place by this plate thing, which should position it.

If it's right on the other side, might be the wrong style brake shoes?







Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:01 pm

Hooked
Stella 2T 150, Honda C70
Joined: 25 Sep 2019
Posts: 300
Location: Seattle
 
Hooked
Stella 2T 150, Honda C70
Joined: 25 Sep 2019
Posts: 300
Location: Seattle
Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:01 pm linkquote
Better? It's actually fun disassembling clean parts.



Mon Sep 05, 2022 7:44 am

Addicted
1968 VBB150
Joined: 04 Nov 2015
Posts: 611
Location: OC
 
Addicted
1968 VBB150
Joined: 04 Nov 2015
Posts: 611
Location: OC
Mon Sep 05, 2022 7:44 am linkquote
whereshaldo wrote:
Better? It's actually fun disassembling clean parts.
It doesn't look like the ring is seated in the groove.
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