Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:07 pm

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Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:07 pm linkquote
I have a Piaggio MP3 250 (2008 model) that has a wire going to the front brake caliper. All the literature & manuals I have read DO NOT mention linked brakes or ABS for a 2008 model. Can anyone tell me what the wire is for please?



Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:18 pm

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Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:18 pm linkquote
the manual says that's for the tone wheel (nothing to do with the calliper).

ie speedo

https://manuals.wotmeworry.org.uk/Piaggio/Piaggio%20MP3/MP3%20250/MP3%20250%20Workshop%20Manual.pdf
Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:39 pm

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Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:39 pm linkquote
Hi...thanks for the reply. I can't find any reference to it in the manual, the wiring diagram in the manual isn't legible in the pdf download. The mp3 has the connector on the other front brake caliper as well. 2 speedo (tone wheel) connections would not be required surely?
Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:43 pm

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Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:43 pm linkquote
Fred500 wrote:
Hi...thanks for the reply. I can't find any reference to it in the manual, the wiring diagram in the manual isn't legible in the pdf download. The mp3 has the connector on the other front brake caliper as well. 2 speedo (tone wheel) connections would not be required surely?
page 204 has the pic + description.

check the wiring diagrams at https://manuals.wotmeworry.org.uk/Piaggio/Piaggio%20MP3/MP3%20250/
Sun Aug 21, 2022 2:06 am

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Sun Aug 21, 2022 2:06 am linkquote
Yep, you are correct .....though why a vehicle needs sensors on both wheels I can't imagine.

Tomorrow I'll try to solve my new problem ....the horn sounding when I use the tilt lock to lock the wheels in the vertical position.

The 1st time this happened it was cured by topping up the tilt lock reservoir. Today I experimented with locking the system with the MP3 leaning over (wondered if when 'righting' the machine & putting it on the center stand, a wheel could be changed)....however it was difficult to get the system unlocked + now the horn sounds whenever the tilt lock is used (locked).

I reminisce over the 1960's, when to change a back wheel on my Lambretta took less than 5 minutes, or to take the crankshaft out took a bit more than an hour with only 1 special tool.
Sun Aug 21, 2022 2:51 am

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Sun Aug 21, 2022 2:51 am linkquote
And would you really want to relive the 60s? No internet, no forums, no smartphones, cars that only wanted to start when they were "in the mood", the misery of carburetors, vapor lock conditions, ignition systems with points and condensers, bias ply tires, drum brakes, stopping distances that ranged anywhere from "eventually" to "infinity" etc, etc, etc.

Thanks, but no thanks.
Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:48 pm

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Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:48 pm linkquote
Oh dear me....a tantrum
Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:01 pm

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Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:01 pm linkquote
Fred500 wrote:
Yep, you are correct .....though why a vehicle needs sensors on both wheels I can't imagine.

Tomorrow I'll try to solve my new problem ....the horn sounding when I use the tilt lock to lock the wheels in the vertical position.

The 1st time this happened it was cured by topping up the tilt lock reservoir. Today I experimented with locking the system with the MP3 leaning over (wondered if when 'righting' the machine & putting it on the center stand, a wheel could be changed)....however it was difficult to get the system unlocked + now the horn sounds whenever the tilt lock is used (locked).

I reminisce over the 1960's, when to change a back wheel on my Lambretta took less than 5 minutes, or to take the crankshaft out took a bit more than an hour with only 1 special tool.
If it was to be made easy and simple, there would be no dealers, the dealers only make their real cash out of servicing the scoots and selling fancy lids, but totally agree they could have made it easier to remove rear wheel for tyre changing
Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:23 pm

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Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:23 pm linkquote
It's the same with cars and vans jumped in my van this morning front tyre flat no spare no jack just the liquid now tried that no luck it's going backwards
Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:58 pm

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Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:58 pm linkquote
Fred500 wrote:
Oh dear me....a tantrum
Not a tantrum, just reality. I lived through the 60s and not really missing it other than the muscle car era.

And yes, I'll be the first to admit that progress isn't always progress such as the removal of the full size spare as pointed out (a nickel and dime cost cutting measure by manufacturers) or the oversaturation of tech especially the Euro techno garbage (looks great, breaks once out of warranty) found in European vehicles.
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