Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:42 am

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Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:42 am linkquote
Are there any MP3-specific issues for an MP3 not starting? Looking for any suggestions OUTSIDE of the no-start issues that could plague any motorcycle/scooter (weak battery, etc.), or any suggestions that could apply to other bikes but may be common on MP3s so still good to consider.

Looking at buying an MP3 for about $600 USD, but it won't start. Only information I can get from the seller is: "Doesn't start. Seemed to wheel lock issue. Selling as is."

I had an MP3 years ago and thought it would be nice to get back on a cheap one to use as a winter beater.
Tue Aug 30, 2022 5:38 pm

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Tue Aug 30, 2022 5:38 pm linkquote
An update from the seller:

Because it's got 2 front
wheels, it has a wheel
lock. It is stuck it lock
mode I think. When you
turn the key you get a
continuous beep. It will
not let you start it in this
state.


Ass sensor was my first thought, but I believe it would still start, just not rev up if that was the issue.
Tue Aug 30, 2022 5:56 pm

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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
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Tue Aug 30, 2022 5:56 pm linkquote
It could be the mechanism has locked up (corrosion, whatever) - but easy enough to trouble-shoot I'd have thought. Worth a punt if it's cheap enough.
Tue Aug 30, 2022 6:57 pm

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Tue Aug 30, 2022 6:57 pm linkquote
Any idea what my best and worst case scenarios are if that's the case?
Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:52 am

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Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:52 am linkquote
Buying a cheap MP3 is like buying a cheap Mercedes. There's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes.

Also, since I presume the bike is in Canada a thorough check for rust is a must. These Italian jobbies love to rust . . . even when shown a chamois

You didn't mention the model year of the MP3. There were 3 generations. I'd stay away from the first gen due to the age factor and the fact you never buy version 1.0 of anything.
Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:39 am

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Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:39 am linkquote
sbaert wrote:
Buying a cheap MP3 is like buying a cheap Mercedes. There's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes.

Also, since I presume the bike is in Canada a thorough check for rust is a must. These Italian jobbies love to rust . . . even when shown a chamois

You didn't mention the model year of the MP3. There were 3 generations. I'd stay away from the first gen due to the age factor and the fact you never buy version 1.0 of anything.
Ugh... I totally get your Mercedes analogy... which made your reply heartbreaking... because I think you're probably right...

- Sad Adrian
Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:37 pm

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Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:37 pm linkquote
How do you guys feel about $2350 CAD for a 2010 MP3 500 with 10,000 km?
In american that translates into $1785 US for a 2010 MP3 30 CI with 6200 miles.
Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:06 am

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Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:06 am linkquote
It all depends on condition and service history. These are very finicky bikes. Also if the bike ever was involved in any kind of collission, especially front (even low speed), then all bets are off.

Even a moderate pot hole can bend the forks and throw the alignment and handling into the weeds. Just sayin'

For me, the bike is too old to consider. I'd prefer a 2015 or newer with 3 times the mileage but a full service history and zero accidents.
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