Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:35 am

Hooked
2020 GTS 300 hpe Touring
Joined: 31 May 2021
Posts: 424
Location: Upstate SC
 
Hooked
2020 GTS 300 hpe Touring
Joined: 31 May 2021
Posts: 424
Location: Upstate SC
Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:35 am linkquote
Afflicted wrote:
Umm, I wonder how you would mount that..
I can think of any number of ways.
Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:10 pm

Moderaptor
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 41431
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
 
Moderaptor
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 41431
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:10 pm linkquote
grouper wrote:
I can think of any number of ways.
You'd need some nuts and screws - but this is OT.
Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:44 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
LX190 Friday afternoon special, Primavera, some pushbikes
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Posts: 8388
Location: Hermit Kingdom
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
LX190 Friday afternoon special, Primavera, some pushbikes
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Posts: 8388
Location: Hermit Kingdom
Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:44 pm linkquote
caschnd1 wrote:
If I recall, the "fix" was implemented because the forum went through a phase where the Toreador Pants crowd was continuously evangelizing the topic. The constant unsolicited advice bordered on boorish. Replacing the acronym with "Toreador Pants" was a lighthearted way of reminding people to pump the brakes a bit.
You mean lots of threads like this one?
Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:57 pm

Thunder Thief
2010 GTS 300 Super & 2015 Kawasaki Concours 1400 ABS
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Posts: 2355
Location: in the blue ridge mountains of Virginia... on the trail of the lonesome pine..."
 
Thunder Thief
2010 GTS 300 Super & 2015 Kawasaki Concours 1400 ABS
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Posts: 2355
Location: in the blue ridge mountains of Virginia... on the trail of the lonesome pine..."
Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:57 pm linkquote
Jerko, you live in Cville?
Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:30 pm

Addicted
two Vespa GTSs (Dragon Red and Black). Primavera- Kymco Yager 200i
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
Posts: 620
Location: Saratoga Springs, New York
 
Addicted
two Vespa GTSs (Dragon Red and Black). Primavera- Kymco Yager 200i
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
Posts: 620
Location: Saratoga Springs, New York
Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:30 pm linkquote
Not in favor of unsolicited advice. I've been tempted in an analogous situation; right after my 64 year old brother-in-law, a Marlboro Man his whole life, died of lung cancer, I was tempted every time I was on the checkout line of the convenience store, to say something to the young person buying cigarettes, more than one pack at a time. I resisted the urge. Adults need to make their own choices.

Everyone who has ridden any length of time knows the risks; we've heard the warnings, seen the ramifications. In summer, I am far from fully protected. I appreciate that those I ride with respect my choices as I respect theirs.
Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:28 am

Addicted
Vespa S
Joined: 21 Dec 2010
Posts: 838
Location: Toronto, Canada
 
Addicted
Vespa S
Joined: 21 Dec 2010
Posts: 838
Location: Toronto, Canada
Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:28 am linkquote
I'll flip between gear and no gear even in the same day depending on what bike I'm riding (some of my motorcycles get really hot) and/or where I'm going.

About 30-40 minutes away from me is the legendary town of Brampton. They have the worst car insurance rates in the entire country. If you're going there, I might even tell someone to wear their gear.

But then I'll come home from that, switch into a bathing suit and flip flops, and ride over to my friend's pool. Calculated risks.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:49 am

Enthusiast
'20 GTS300 Touring
Joined: 05 Oct 2015
Posts: 76
Location: Ruidoso Downs, New Mexico
 
Enthusiast
'20 GTS300 Touring
Joined: 05 Oct 2015
Posts: 76
Location: Ruidoso Downs, New Mexico
Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:49 am linkquote
I'm an ATGMTT (all the gear, most of the time) rider. On the open road, full face helmet, textile jacket, gloves, boots, and long jeans. I taught MC classes for years and we always taught All The Gear All The Time. On the scooter, around town, I wear a 3/4 helmet, gloves, long pants, textile jacket (mesh for summer). And having crashed a number of times, mostly on dirt bikes, I know the value of a full face but as some has said, amount of acceptable risk is up to the individual.

Back to the thread: I just shake my head and grin at those who ride in shorts and t-shirts; its their body.

I knew a guy, very educated but a little weird who rode a GoldWing in shorts and sandals, no shirt, nothing else. Then one day I heard that he was in a convalescent hospital, slowly recovering from massive injuries from a motorcycle wreck. Oh well.
Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:29 pm

Addicted
Joined: 29 Apr 2018
Posts: 807

 
Addicted
Joined: 29 Apr 2018
Posts: 807

Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:29 pm linkquote
Road rash can be terrible!
Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:25 pm

Ossessionato
2015 GTS 300 Super (Melody: 2015-2021, RIP) 2022 GTS SuperTech (Thelonica)
Joined: 22 Apr 2015
Posts: 3674
Location: Asbury Park, NJ
 
Ossessionato
2015 GTS 300 Super (Melody: 2015-2021, RIP) 2022 GTS SuperTech (Thelonica)
Joined: 22 Apr 2015
Posts: 3674
Location: Asbury Park, NJ
Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:25 pm linkquote
jimc wrote:
Please only give advice if you have been asked for your opinion. Unsolicited evangelism is very bad manners at best, despicable at worst.

Let the rider decide!
I'm on-board with this, however reluctantly: when my scooter club had a group ride to New Hope, PA a month-and-change ago, I was reminded that Pennsylvania, unlike New Jersey, is a "helmet-optional" state, and I saw dudes on everything from sportbikes to baggers bopping through town sans helmets…and, you know what? It's truly their choice. Given everything else we're having food-fights about at the moment, this one's relatively low on the list (you should see how many peeps in Gotham are riding helmetless, which is clearly illegal, but sparsely-enforced). I'll give common sense a chance.
Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:42 am

Molto Verboso
1979 P200E (sold) / ZNEN Amore 150 (sold) / Genuine Buddy 170i / Genuine Stella 4T /Aprilia Sportcity One 50
Joined: 31 Jul 2014
Posts: 1570
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
 
Molto Verboso
1979 P200E (sold) / ZNEN Amore 150 (sold) / Genuine Buddy 170i / Genuine Stella 4T /Aprilia Sportcity One 50
Joined: 31 Jul 2014
Posts: 1570
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:42 am linkquote
We used to have helmet laws. They were repealed 10 years ago. This is why :
Quote:
The lawmakers who pushed for changing the law claimed repeal of the motorcycle helmet law would boost Michigan's economy by increasing tourism and the sale of motorcycles and related items. They also insisted helmets were not effective at preventing death or serious injury.
It was a law that had been in place since 1969.

SOURCE

So, we will waive safety in the name of revenue, apparently. But we will receive a hefty ticket if we fail to put on our seatbelts inside our cage with 11 airbags. Don't get me wrong, I wear a helmet and seatbelt, but the irony is not lost on me.

Since there are no longer any laws governing safety equipment for motorcyclists it would not be my place to evangelize, but internally I am shaking my fist at helmetless riders and politicians.
Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:51 am

Addicted
GTS (sold)
Joined: 14 Feb 2013
Posts: 975
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
 
Addicted
GTS (sold)
Joined: 14 Feb 2013
Posts: 975
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:51 am linkquote
A little topic-tangential, but...helmet laws. My singular gripe with mandatory helmet laws is there's no exception, loophole, or allowance for if your helmet gets stolen or rendered unwearable while out and about.

If a car is driveable, you don't have to get it towed or call a taxi until it's repaired. If someone smashes a window and steals the contents, you can drive it home, legal and aboveboard. There should be some method to ride a perfectly functional bike to either home or the nearest store for a new helmet.
Just a thought I've had...ever since the one time someone stole my helmet and I had to get a couple $$ taxi $$ rides to replace it and get the bike home.
Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:19 am

Hooked
Primavera
Joined: 02 Aug 2022
Posts: 114
Location: SoCal
 
Hooked
Primavera
Joined: 02 Aug 2022
Posts: 114
Location: SoCal
Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:19 am linkquote
Cheshire wrote:
I meant to answer you but never did...sorry.
I had to quit riding for a long time due to injury, but when I rode regularly, there was a particular downhill stretch on my morning commute I would hit 55-58mph on for a few minutes. I never could get it to 60...my cadence would spin out. Ignoring that hill, I used to average 8-15 uphill and 30-ish on flats. This was in the western NC mountains.

It's why I skipped the 50cc step when I got into motorized. I used to pace or pass them if I ended up behind one at a light.

I've recently gotten a hard tail mountain bike. I'm still twitchy on roads going slower than traffic, so I figured I'd try it without roads this time around.
Funny my family is skipping over the electric bike craze, we can all ride a non-electric bike for days at a decent clip,
also scooters are so fun and such useful city machines.

Your going to love mountain biking, it's got it all, battery acid in the back of the throat climbs, flowing like water through the woods down tree covered hobbit trails, technical luge like single track downs.
Lung power still reins supreme for MTBing but it seems to me more technical advantage is to be had on the mountain bike than on a road bike (other than air pressure, air pressure, air pressure, Advil and red lights😂)
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