Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:23 am

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BV 400 (21) , BV 350 (16) SOLD :( , Sprint 150 2015(SOLD), Liberty S150 2018
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Posts: 2949
Location: Florida
 
Ossessionato
BV 400 (21) , BV 350 (16) SOLD :( , Sprint 150 2015(SOLD), Liberty S150 2018
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Posts: 2949
Location: Florida
Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:23 am linkquote
Selling my BV 350 was really tough. I loved that scooter. I put 20k on her and she ran flawlessly. I only had to swap out the side stand, it snapped when I was putting it down unexpectedly luckily I was able to keep her upright. Aside from that it is one heck of a machine. I sold her before I left Florida for a year in Italy.

Upon my return from Italy to Florida I was lucky enough to be able to buy the new BV 400.
So familiar to the 350 there are some improvements that made me fall in love all over again.

So here are my thoughts so far. After 5 K the BV keeps getting smoother and is running like a Puma.

The Pluses :

The motor is way stronger and pulls like a bat out of hell. Its very linear and very predictable.

The suspension is much better than the 350. I just goes over the bumps , speed bumps and bad roads way better and feels "not as squirrley". Just feels more stable, prob a lot has to do with the larger tires.

The lighting actually works and is excellent compared to the 350.

The seat is also an improvement over the 350.

Controls also feel better and higher quality than previous models.

My dislikes...
# 1 and still bothers me is the ignition. Its complicated and I'm sure in the future this will be an issue. Just the way you start it up always pisses me off. If you don't do the sequence in order you can bust a knuckle .. its prob not that bad but to me its way to complicated.

Not 100% sure but I feel like the rear tire is going to burn out much earlier than the 350. This is not a real problem but will likely cause a bit more money to run.

Guys please go ahead and post your comments , obvervations and questions you may have. I would easily recommend the BV 400 as a daily driver.



Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:37 am

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2022- 300 GTS SuperTech
Joined: 11 Sep 2022
Posts: 10
Location: Michigan
 
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2022- 300 GTS SuperTech
Joined: 11 Sep 2022
Posts: 10
Location: Michigan
Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:37 am linkquote
Nice eMove Cruiser. My wife has one and I have an Apollo Pro!
Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:00 am

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BV 400 (21) , BV 350 (16) SOLD :( , Sprint 150 2015(SOLD), Liberty S150 2018
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Posts: 2949
Location: Florida
 
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BV 400 (21) , BV 350 (16) SOLD :( , Sprint 150 2015(SOLD), Liberty S150 2018
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Posts: 2949
Location: Florida
Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:00 am linkquote
vetteb_96 wrote:
Nice eMove Cruiser. My wife has one and I have an Apollo Pro!
Don't get me started .. I should have gone directly to a better model. I don't find the eMove that stable. I sold her and am looking for something where I feel the front end won't get away on me. The battery / range excellent.
Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:11 am

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2019 Piaggio Liberty 150
Joined: 20 Feb 2019
Posts: 961
Location: Norfolk, VA
 
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2019 Piaggio Liberty 150
Joined: 20 Feb 2019
Posts: 961
Location: Norfolk, VA
Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:11 am linkquote
I have a 2022 Apollo Ghost. Crazy fast but very stable. Dual motor is the way to go. As much as I'm tempted to get a BV I get reminded everyday that my Liberty still serves all my needs. And my only experience with keyless scooters is the Xmax 300. It's also annoying sometimes. But the BV400 is a nice ride!
Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:52 pm

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Piaggio Beverly 300 ie - 2012
Joined: 08 Aug 2021
Posts: 684
Location: Belgium
 
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Piaggio Beverly 300 ie - 2012
Joined: 08 Aug 2021
Posts: 684
Location: Belgium
Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:52 pm linkquote
kdude wrote:
(...)
Guys please go ahead and post your comments , obvervations and questions you may have. I would easily recommend the BV 400 as a daily driver.
Is that a BV 400 S "argento cometa"? Looks really nice for being a grey color.

I particularly find it interesting that you experience good progress in the suspension compared to your BV 350. I drive a 2012 BV 300 and the suspension on bad roads is indeed not the best.
Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:35 pm

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Joined: 11 Apr 2017
Posts: 82

 
Enthusiast
Joined: 11 Apr 2017
Posts: 82

Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:35 pm linkquote
I just passed the 4000 mile (6500 km) mark on my BV400 and agree with most of the comments. This scooter is a joy to ride. My gripes are fit and finish is poor. The gas cover door is not flat. The glove box is not flush and there are panel pieces that do not sit flush.

The keyless ignition system, once you get use to it is not bad, but is a little funky.

The miles to empty, air temp indicator, and estimated miles per gallon are very convenient to have.

This scooter handles well in the corners and rides well on both highways and twisty country roads. Piaggio has a winner here. All they need to do is add cruise control and heated grips and you have one nice light weight touring scooter.
Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:09 pm

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Black Beater SH150i(41,000)Red Devil SH150i (3000)
Joined: 27 Dec 2013
Posts: 2960
Location: Orange Park Florida
 
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Black Beater SH150i(41,000)Red Devil SH150i (3000)
Joined: 27 Dec 2013
Posts: 2960
Location: Orange Park Florida
Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:09 pm linkquote
kdude wrote:
Not 100% sure but I feel like the rear tire is going to burn out much earlier than the 350. This is not a real problem but will likely cause a bit more money to run.
I road my BV350's like scalded dogs. Add the variator and exhaust, I'd probably get 2,000 less miles on the rear tire of a 400
Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:41 pm

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BV 400 (21) , BV 350 (16) SOLD :( , Sprint 150 2015(SOLD), Liberty S150 2018
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Posts: 2949
Location: Florida
 
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BV 400 (21) , BV 350 (16) SOLD :( , Sprint 150 2015(SOLD), Liberty S150 2018
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Posts: 2949
Location: Florida
Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:41 pm linkquote
PeterCC wrote:
Is that a BV 400 S "argento cometa"? Looks really nice for being a grey color.

I particularly find it interesting that you experience good progress in the suspension compared to your BV 350. I drive a 2012 BV 300 and the suspension on bad roads is indeed not the best.
Yes I took a chance as I never saw the color. I did see the red color but had a feeling I would get sick of the color very quickly. The 400 suspension is really a nice upgrade. You may be able to increase the front tire size to give bit more rubber on the road.
Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:43 pm

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BV 400 (21) , BV 350 (16) SOLD :( , Sprint 150 2015(SOLD), Liberty S150 2018
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Posts: 2949
Location: Florida
 
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BV 400 (21) , BV 350 (16) SOLD :( , Sprint 150 2015(SOLD), Liberty S150 2018
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Posts: 2949
Location: Florida
Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:43 pm linkquote
breaknwind wrote:
I road my BV350's like scalded dogs. Add the variator and exhaust, I'd probably get 2,000 less miles on the rear tire of a 400
I was getting about 6-8 k pending on how hard I rode the 350. I have about 4800 miles and the rear tire looks tired , front is still ok
Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:26 pm

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Piaggio Beverly 300 ie - 2012
Joined: 08 Aug 2021
Posts: 684
Location: Belgium
 
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Piaggio Beverly 300 ie - 2012
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Posts: 684
Location: Belgium
Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:26 pm linkquote
kdude wrote:
I was getting about 6-8 k pending on how hard I rode the 350. I have about 4800 miles and the rear tire looks tired , front is still ok
I have 25.000km (15.500miles) with the rear tyre and it definitely needs replacing. But the front tyre is still very much OK. Front tyres just do not wear out that much.
Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:52 pm

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Black Beater SH150i(41,000)Red Devil SH150i (3000)
Joined: 27 Dec 2013
Posts: 2960
Location: Orange Park Florida
 
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Black Beater SH150i(41,000)Red Devil SH150i (3000)
Joined: 27 Dec 2013
Posts: 2960
Location: Orange Park Florida
Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:52 pm linkquote
kdude wrote:
I was getting about 6-8 k pending on how hard I rode the 350. I have about 4800 miles and the rear tire looks tired , front is still ok
I was getting 9,000 miles on my rear but 60% was highway miles. I was also getting 9,000 miles on my SH rear City Grip. Now that I'm doing Door Dash, more stop-n-go decreased the rear to 8,000 miles.
Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:02 am

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bv350, Brutale 910
Joined: 19 Jan 2011
Posts: 491
Location: LA CA
 
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bv350, Brutale 910
Joined: 19 Jan 2011
Posts: 491
Location: LA CA
Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:02 am linkquote
very jealous of bv400 owners; the new scoot seems like a great evolution of the bv350. hoping to reach 20K mi on my '18 so I'll have an excuse to finally upgrade like you.
Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:56 pm

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Joined: 06 Oct 2013
Posts: 470

 
Hooked
Joined: 06 Oct 2013
Posts: 470

Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:56 pm linkquote
tonyc wrote:
very jealous of bv400 owners; the new scoot seems like a great evolution of the bv350. hoping to reach 20K mi on my '18 so I'll have an excuse to finally upgrade like you.
I just finished a bunch of service items on my '13 BV350 - oil, antifreeze, brake fluid, air filter, re-greasing the center stand pivot, rear tire, and replacing a burnt out license plate light. At just about 32,000 miles it's running great. As long as it continues to run and perform well I can't justify the 400, nice as it may be. Right now I intend to get a lot more use out of it, because a 10 year old scooter with 32,000 miles isn't worth much to sell or trade anyway. May as well just keep riding it!
Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:18 pm

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bv350, Brutale 910
Joined: 19 Jan 2011
Posts: 491
Location: LA CA
 
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bv350, Brutale 910
Joined: 19 Jan 2011
Posts: 491
Location: LA CA
Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:18 pm linkquote
Bueller wrote:
because a 10 year old scooter with 32,000 miles isn't worth much to sell or trade anyway. May as well just keep riding it!
aww shucks! don't say that!!! I'm "restoring" my bro's '13 BV350 right now and just dropped $400(!!!) large on new tire, battery and full seat vinyl re-covering before putting it on the market. Are you saying we need to keep it in the family for my kids instead of selling it? It doesn't even have 7K miles...
Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:07 am

Hooked
Joined: 06 Oct 2013
Posts: 470

 
Hooked
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Posts: 470

Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:07 am linkquote
tonyc wrote:
aww shucks! don't say that!!! I'm "restoring" my bro's '13 BV350 right now and just dropped $400(!!!) large on new tire, battery and full seat vinyl re-covering before putting it on the market. Are you saying we need to keep it in the family for my kids instead of selling it? It doesn't even have 7K miles...
7k isn't much mileage!

Mine was silver and ox blood red, which of course faded pretty bad. So I painted it and had Sargent seats do some seat work for me. Came out nice!



Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:15 pm

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GTS 300, BV250
Joined: 29 Jun 2018
Posts: 134
Location: Orange County, CA
 
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GTS 300, BV250
Joined: 29 Jun 2018
Posts: 134
Location: Orange County, CA
Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:15 pm linkquote
tonyc wrote:
very jealous of bv400 owners; the new scoot seems like a great evolution of the bv350. hoping to reach 20K mi on my '18 so I'll have an excuse to finally upgrade like you.
How many miles have you put on it so far?
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