Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:33 am

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:33 am linkquote
I had to pop into a pet food store today to grab some dog food, and went through the whole thing of taking off my helmet and locking it to the seat, etc.

I was in the store a grand total of 3 min. and thought, "I should have just kept my helmet on."

Then I was trying to remember if I've ever seen someone wearing a helmet while in a 7-11 or something like that. I think so, right? Is it weird to keep your helmet on when you're just dashing into a store for a minute?
Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:49 am

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:49 am linkquote
I will only leave my helmet on in small mom and pop convenience stores that I'll only be inside a minute or two. Other than that, I take it off.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:58 am

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:58 am linkquote
I have a shoei multitec for that reason - I can flip it up, they can see my face so hopefully not think I'm there to rob the place.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:11 am

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:11 am linkquote
Nope
Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:35 am

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:35 am linkquote
Nope, always removed and stored in rear case.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:36 am

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:36 am linkquote
Looking for my first full face helmet. Any suggestions for a good safe brand/model?
Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:02 am

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:02 am linkquote
I always remove my helmet when going inside.

It may be due to my initial riding in Bermuda, where almost everyone rides scooters, in the early 1990's.

Not sure if it was a law or simply a custom, but there was a requirement to remove helmets before entering a business.

Bill
Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:38 am

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:38 am linkquote
Leave it on all the time except for when I'm at the bank. Full face with sunglasses and the cashiers don't blink twice.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:45 am

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:45 am linkquote
I'll very often leave my helmet on for an errand.

I wear earplugs and listen to music, which both impact my propensity to take my helmet off. If I need to have a conversation with someone in the store, I'll take my helmet off so I can remove my earplugs. If I'm enjoying the music I'm listening to, I'll keep my helmet on as if it's a set of headphones.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:46 am

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:46 am linkquote
For more context - I'm a woman, and shoving my hair back into my helmet is a pain in the a$$, hence my wanting to just leave it on when I'm going to be in and out of the store in a couple minutes. LOL

Interesting responses so far!
Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:47 am

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:47 am linkquote
always remove. but its a pia cause I end up just carrying it around the store in one hand. Refuse to leave it on my scooter. Would get stolen in my area.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:04 pm

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:04 pm linkquote
I have a modular helmet. If it's a quick in-and-out errand, I just flip up the chin part and keep it on.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:10 pm

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:10 pm linkquote
It depends on what I'm riding. The scooters have big boxes on back so stowing them is quick and easy. The motorcycles have helmet hooks and require a little more effort so I may leave it on with the bike and take it off with the scooters.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:11 pm

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:11 pm linkquote
US-centric opinion...because I live there:
If I can have my face showing (modular, 3/4, etc) then, if it's just a minute, I'll leave it on with face visible. I always take a full face off unless it's somewhere I go regularly AND they recognize me in my gear.

I don't want to be suspected of possible crime and a lot of places have rules or statutes against (non-medical) masks or face coverings. I don't want to scare some employee...and I don't want to get shot.
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Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:15 pm linkquote
I remember a year or so ago I watched a YouTube video about a guy wearing his helmet inside a store. Did a search and I found it. It's pretty interesting to watch.
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Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:33 pm linkquote
At this side of the pond , folks sometimes wear a helmet at a gas station if they'll pop inside. Otherwise not really.

I'm in this camp too - although I nowadays wear always ear plugs while riding and I do hate to re-install them just because of a few minutes errand without helmet.

Young folks riding 'mopeds', as all 50cc bikes are called over here, have an interesting tendency to pull their helmet (full face, almost all use such here) up at the top their head, where it dangles while they are e.g. in a shop....
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Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:42 pm linkquote
vetteb_96 wrote:
Looking for my first full face helmet. Any suggestions for a good safe brand/model?
Most, well, probably all are much safer than an open face helmet, so it will be an improvement in any case....around here Shoei, Schuberth, Arai, HJC...I'll guess Bell over there, other good brands too.

Different brands, and even different models within a brand often have different helmet shapes. Some fit better to round heads, some to oval, some for those in between....like e.g. I'm doomed with a long oval head (think Alien from the movies...) and Arai is among the rare brands that fit me well.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 1:18 pm

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 1:18 pm linkquote
Though it's not required currently in much of California right now (Covid-wise), out of courtesy to retail workers' and other customers' health, I still wear a mask indoors when running errands, so I have to remove my helmet to put it on. I'm not preaching, just thinking of my 90-yr-old dad. Yes it's a pia, so sometimes I'll try to dovetail my errands, park near the middle and get some extra walking in.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 1:36 pm

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 1:36 pm linkquote
I stop for a chicken breast at Royal Farms for my cat and leave my helmet on. I have a Schuberth modular and just flip the front up, and retract the sun shield if its daytime. I leave it on when I go to the post office. Leave it on when I pre-pay for gas. Normal for me to just leave it on.

VIVI, I have long hair as well and wear it in a bun. Yup, I said bun. I tried those ponytail wraps and other long hair methods but found a simple bun tie works best.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:01 pm

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:01 pm linkquote
I work in a store and when people wear their helmet inside i consider it rude. I know how easy it is to remove your helmet. If you don't want to take the 60 seconds to lock it up, then carry it in by the straps. If you're in that much of a hurry that you can't remove your helmet then stay home. IMHO
Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:21 pm

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:21 pm linkquote
I find it nice to have my full face helmet off when I stop. The helmet also serves as a nice small shopping basket.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:28 pm

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:28 pm linkquote
On a scooter, I'm not in a hurry. Wear my helmet but show my face.
Most of the time it sparks friendly conversations of the type "What kinda scooter is that?", "What kinda mileage you get?", "Is that a camera on your helmet?", "I used to ride and...", etc. Even had gas station employees walk out with me if they weren't busy and hold me up by the pump asking about my rides. Had this happen many times all across the USA. But only when alone. Never happens when I have another rider with me.
After 60 years of riding lower 48, China, Japan, Canada, & Mexico, the only negative reaction I've had was from a local Murphy gas station cashier & I found out later from his co-worker didn't like any biker that wasn't riding a HD. Go figure.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:30 pm

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:30 pm linkquote
I have left my helmet on a few times for a quick errand but usually take it off I have a top box for it
Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:39 pm

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:39 pm linkquote
I leave my helmet on frequently, shopping going to pick up lunch..
Before the pandemic, occasionally I would get asked to take it off
Many times I'll pop into a grocery store for a specific item, if they don't have it I go somewhere else
I have headphone pockets in all my helmets, put the player in my right breast pocket so I can pause or next song without taking my hand off the throttle
My summer helmet



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Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:51 pm linkquote
When I am in my home town, I do not because I think it would embarrass my kids if I see them or their friends — but when I am in NYC I definitely do - it's just easy and quick when I am running in and out - and in NYC with all the delivery people etc it isn't abnormal.
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Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:28 pm linkquote
ok a bit of a nutty story. Back when I was in the Chicago area I had dropped off my scuba gear to be serviced and the day I needed to pick it up I had taken my Vespa to work. Also this night my wife was having dinner with her friends so I was on my own. I stopped on the way home from work at the scuba store to get my stuff. I was able to put my regulator in the top box, but the BCD vest would not fit so I put it on over my jacket with all the tubes and two scuba knives attached. I stopped by my favorite chinese restaurant to pick up dinner I had ordered in advance. Went in with my helmet and my BCD with its knives attached. I got some very strange looks, but got my food and went home, thinking about it I guess to others I looked a bit strange.
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Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:29 pm linkquote
I envy those who think it doesn't take any time to don or doff a helmet. Earplugs, glasses, hair, devices, weather...there's a lot that can change how long it takes.

It occurred to me this evening that there's a big reason I wouldn't bother doffing: using self-checkout for just a couple items. If I'm not going to interact with anyone and I'll be off the bike shorter than de- and re-helmeting takes, what's the point?
Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:31 pm

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:31 pm linkquote
WLeuthold wrote:
I always remove my helmet when going inside.
Just like men should remove any hat when entering a building.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:22 pm

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:22 pm linkquote
I am really enjoying all the different perspectives on this!

Everything about scootering is new to me, so I like learning the culture and different ways people do things.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:50 pm

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:50 pm linkquote
I just waited in line for a pizza with my helmet on. Was enjoying the music.

(It was a long line, maybe 20-30 minutes.)
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:56 pm

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:56 pm linkquote
Garthhh wrote:
My summer helmet
I'd not heard of LS2 before. I thought you were banging around on your Vespa with a Leatt. (To that end, a dirt helmet is a dirt helmet.)
Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:24 pm

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Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:24 pm linkquote
Unless I'm paying at the pump it comes off every time.
Our gas stations usually have these, since ages ago.



Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:29 am

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Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:29 am linkquote
Only time I leave my helmet on is if I am filling the scooter at self serve - almost every time these days. Otherwise the helmet comes off, gloves etc. go in it, and if I am going to be more than a few minutes I take my jacket off.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:19 am

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Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:19 am linkquote
Personally I feel it's good practice to take it off, whenever talking to people.

When people are interacting, it's important to see each other's faces and the movements of their facial muscles. That plays a big part in how we read people and decide if they're trustworthy or not. With a helmet on, you see a lot less of the face and the mimicry is deformed because of the helmet. That just doesn't help in open, friendly and trustworthy communication.

Even if you're just paying for a box of candy, I feel it's important to maintain a certain level of open communication and respect.

So when running errands, yes, I take it off.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:41 am

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Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:41 am linkquote
I wear a full face helmet. I've worn it at my ATM; otherwise, I remove my helmet when conducting any business.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:44 am

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Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:44 am linkquote
I often take mine off, but it can be chore with glasses, hearing aids, and a mask if doing several shops in succession. So I sometimes leave it on, especially if it's a shop where I'm known. It's a flip-face so doesn't look quite as I'm-going-to-rob-you as a full-face, but might as well with a mask on. That said, since masks, no one has batted an eyelid at me in a helmet and mask at the counter.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:12 am

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Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:12 am linkquote
They know me in the dog food store. They call me by name. We laugh and exchange pleasantries. The helmet stays on.

Pretty sure I'm the only Vespa rider who stops to get the dogs fed.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:56 am

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Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:56 am linkquote
Mopedlar wrote:
I will only leave my helmet on in small mom and pop convenience stores that I'll only be inside a minute or two. Other than that, I take it off.
+1
Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:20 am

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Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:20 am linkquote
Never thought of keeping my helmet on, really, so I take it off always when I enter a shop or even when I tank at a self-service gas station (almost all gas stations in Belgium are self-service) and store it in the booth below the saddle.

With respect to legal here your face should always be visible. You are not allowed to wear a mask when in contact with other people. (Exceptions are the COVID mask that covers part of your face and the 4 days of Carnival in certain city centers)
So a jet helmet with flipped up visor is not really a problem, but still I do not keep it on.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:04 pm

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Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:04 pm linkquote
I usually keep my 3/4 on my head, but with opened shield. Since I'm huge, sometimes people get scared of me.

Usually I say "stop drinking so much, because of bad alcohol you see aliens in a shop". Since I'm huge usually noone tries to hit me for that.
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