Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:53 pm

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Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:53 pm linkquote
Hi just want to lower a friends Yourban and thinking of shorter shocks . Does you have any thouts on shocks .
Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:33 am

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Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:33 am linkquote
The compressed length needs to be the same or the back wheel will hit the underseat storage
Have you tried springs on the softest setting?
Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:20 am

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Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:20 am linkquote
Hi i want to lower it 5cm . It is a female driver and she is only 155 cm and can only hit her toes to the ground . I understand the compression ratio . But wounder if someone has lowered a Yourban before . I found a lowering kit for mp3 500 but the shock bracket is not the same .
Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:39 pm

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Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:39 pm linkquote
Sorry to tell you, but the bike is too big (tall) for the rider's stature.

Bikes are just like clothing. They either fit or they don't
Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:24 pm

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Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:24 pm linkquote
Nope this can be fixed!
You can change the shocks to shorter ones gain 1/2 inch, You can have the seat cut down gain 1 inch, and you can get Platform shoes from Converse shoe Company and have up to one inch extra installed on the sole gain 2 inch.

I did the Converse shoe thing and added 3/4 inch.

1000% increase in stability etc.
sbaert wrote:
Sorry to tell you, but the bike is too big (tall) for the rider's stature.

Bikes are just like clothing. They either fit or they don't




Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:43 pm

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Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:43 pm linkquote
What sbaert said; it sounds like the bike is just too big. The rider must feel comfortable and confident handling the machine or else there is a high risk of crash and injury.

It IS a step-through configured scooter however and there are a couple things you can do. What I do when stopping is let the residual inertia slide me forwards on the seat so I can put my feet down at stops by standing in the step-through gap. When starting the bike its basically the reverse, to stand partly seated, then once the bike is in motion scoot up further into the seat.

Of course as others have stated you can also shave material from the seat to make it smaller and narrower at the expense of a bit of riding comfort.

Wearing proper riding boots with ankle support can add a couple centimeters to the riders over-all height and help but wearing regular walking shoes with raised treads is asking for ankle injuries and a trip to the emergency room with a broken foot.

But its still a very large and very heavy bike with a high probability of toppling over if leaned over too far. There is a risk of injury if a falling bike catches a foot, leg, or drags the owner down too. Should the bike start to tip over, DO NOT try to catch it as its very heavy and will hurt you, the best you can do is slow the fall to minimize or prevent damage.

But all the above are just work arounds that carry risk. Sbaert is exactly right, motorcycles must fit like clothing and if the rider does not feel comfortable or confident handling the machine then they must consider something smaller or no motorcycle at all.
Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:27 am

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Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:27 am linkquote
2 observations

1) Those are not motorcycle shoes and offer zero protection when the inevitable happens.

2) Gluing a sole on top of another sole is a hack at best and a guaranteed trip to the Emergency Room

As somebody famous once said "if the glove don't fit, you must acquit". You can't put a round peg in a square hole.
Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:58 am

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Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:58 am linkquote
Hello

I was well aware these shoes would draw lots of comments.

I had them adjusted at a shoe shop that preforms this for the medical industries. Usually just one shoe.

These were not designed for motorcycle road access but for better feel on pedals that control movement and pressure on control surfaces.

They are excellent for motorcycle use and much safer than using just your toes for balance. Also these shoes come in high top as well. These types of shoe repair shops can add height to any shoe, beach shoe to steel shoes.

Many thanks for your comments.
Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:50 pm

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Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:50 pm linkquote
Piaggio original spare parts there may be, but human original spare parts there are not especially the old noggin'.

If you cannot put your whole foot down on the ground with normal shoes (no platform shoes, no modified shoes, just plain jane loafer type shoes), then a) the bike is too big for you or b) you are too small for the bike. You pick.

I've been riding for 4 decades and seen & experienced more than my fair share of motorcycle ugliness.

Don't underestimate the importance of your feet. Ask anybody who's been in the armed forces.

Skimping on proper rider gear is stepping over dollars to pick up pennies. And to those who'll say "but I ride in my flip flops" I respond in kind "let's pick this conversation up again right after they put the cast on"

FWIW, these are the Alpinestars sneakers I use when riding, whether it be the MP3, the Honda ST1300 or anything in between. They feel just like a normal hi top sneaker, but with protection in all the critical areas. This is the lowest I will go. All my other boots are far better and more expensive.

Safety has no price.



Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:24 am

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Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:24 am linkquote
I must say people has always modified there mc and scooter and cars for there personal preferens . This is not for fun and I asked for tips how to do it . For you that say it does not funktion . No custom bike or scooter has not been build ever .
Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:28 am

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Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:28 am linkquote
Ok, so you don't believe me? I'm fine with that.

However, you should do the following test with the rider and that specific Yourban.

Lay the bike down on soft ground and see if she can lift the bike.

If she can, that's a bonus.

If not, that's a double strike indicating wrong bike for said person due to stature.
Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:52 am

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Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:52 am linkquote
Correct, Motorcycles can often be modified to better fit the rider and riding style. Its just some are better suited for modification and have more room for modification than others.

This thread does list several options to be summarized as follows.
* Proper boots to add a centimeter of height with ankle support
* Lowering the seat height by removing foam at the expense of some ride comfort.
* Techniques for putting feet down with listed risks using the step-through.
* Shocks can be modified, but on the Mp3/Yourban there isn't much space for modification.

Its all a question of how much risk do you and the rider want to take. Can you ride a bike that is too big? Sure. some folks do and do it successfully but at increased risk. The level of risk of injury, picking up a dropped bike, handling it on rough weather and roads is up to the rider.

Above all folks just want to ensure everyone rides safe and enjoys the experience of riding
Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:39 am

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Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:39 am linkquote
I just wounder. Mp3 500 could i find lowering bracket and that seems ok . But not shorter shocks . As i know shorter shocks has shorter stroke length so it shouldent be a problem as long it is to short .
Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:20 am

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:20 am linkquote
tjovis wrote:
I just wounder. Mp3 500 could i find lowering bracket and that seems ok . But not shorter shocks . As i know shorter shocks has shorter stroke length so it shouldent be a problem as long it is to short .
Longer brackets are the same as shorter shocks, the rear wheel may hit the trunk

You need a shorter shock that is the same length as the original when fully compressed
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