Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:57 am

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Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:57 am linkquote
More on the main Vespa Instagram page.



Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:10 pm

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Sprint 150
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Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:10 pm linkquote
babola wrote:
More on the main Vespa Instagram page.
Woah there we go. Not much of a Change from the front. All I see is the mirrors, maybe a different fender crest, and the primavera sport style wheel.

What other changes do people see?
Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:13 pm

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2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC 38,000km)
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Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:44 pm

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Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:44 pm linkquote
alpine wrote:
Woah there we go. Not much of a Change from the front. All I see is the mirrors, maybe a different fender crest, and the primavera sport style wheel.

What other changes do people see?
Quite a few but mainly cosmetic. New angular shorty mirrors, wheels, full-body fender crest, flatter and streamlined horn cover, new handle bar and steering section, smaller end bar weights, chrome edging/trim on legshield now looks same as on Prims and Sprints. I'd say few more like side vents on glove box, new low profile tail light, lowered license plate holder and many more. Vietnamese forum guys are saying the engine stays 150 i-get or 300 HPE, some called it HPE+ but it's unconfirmed yet.

Rumor on German forum is new suspension in collab with a 3rd party performance suspension maker, this is certainly a welcome addition as the low end Chinese one which comes stock standard leaves much to imagination.

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Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:49 pm

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2016 GTS Nero; 2018 GTS Super Sport, matte yellow
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Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:49 pm linkquote
Looks like new legshield trim too, shiny, improved, and perhaps new exhaust shield shape
Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:29 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
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LX190 Friday afternoon special, Primavera, some pushbikes
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Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:29 pm linkquote
Upgraded dipsticks?
Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:31 pm

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2022 GTS 300 HPE
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2022 GTS 300 HPE
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Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:31 pm linkquote
New LED styled turn indicators.
Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:32 pm

Molto Verboso
2020 GTS 300 HPE
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Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:32 pm linkquote
You can see the Vespa post for yourself.
Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:33 pm

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2022 GTS 300 HPE
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Location: Alabama
 
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2022 GTS 300 HPE
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Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:33 pm linkquote
mayorofnow wrote:
You can see Vespa's post for yourself.
Can't see it. Says you must log in to view.
Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:34 pm

Molto Verboso
2020 GTS 300 HPE
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Location: San Francisco
 
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Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:34 pm linkquote
Clampett wrote:
Can't see it. Says you must log in to view.
There's also the mirror in steelbytes' post.
Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:04 pm

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GTS HPE RSW - Rally Snow White
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Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:04 pm linkquote
Clampett wrote:
New LED styled turn indicators.
Yes, they appear so.
Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:09 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:09 pm linkquote
babola wrote:
Yes, they appear so.
I wonder if the segments are animated. I find that really distracting on cars.
Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:11 pm

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Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:11 pm linkquote
Interesting about variator, change from rollers to balls.
Yet to be confrmed tbough, take all these things with a grain of salt.



Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:23 pm

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Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:23 pm linkquote
Couple of fresh photos. Mainly cosmetic changes it appears. These are Super Sport 300 HPE and likely a new Racing Sixties ? (red one on the right) models.

Or it could be a new GTS Super and a Super Sport. We'll know in the next few days I believe.







Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:47 pm

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2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC 38,000km)
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Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
 
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Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:47 pm linkquote
In the side on photo, the top of headlight / above the dashboard on the red one looks different
Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:02 am

Enthusiast
'22 Piaggio Liberty 150 S '07 Kymco People 150 '12 GTS 300 Super (sold) '06 Aprilia Scarabeo 250 (sold)
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Location: Hudson Valley, New York
 
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'22 Piaggio Liberty 150 S '07 Kymco People 150 '12 GTS 300 Super (sold) '06 Aprilia Scarabeo 250 (sold)
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:02 am linkquote
Looks like we will retain the 300 as the pic of the black one reveals on the glove box, but who knows if these are early production runs or just shop toys... they sure are sharp looking though, the black on the red is really nice! I wonder if those are 13" wheels. The key FOB found on the seat.. the turn signals are very silver, hope they illuminate nicer than they look off. overall they look nice!
Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:10 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
LX190 Friday afternoon special, Primavera, some pushbikes
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:10 am linkquote
Are there extra switches there?
Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:49 am

Enthusiast
'22 Piaggio Liberty 150 S '07 Kymco People 150 '12 GTS 300 Super (sold) '06 Aprilia Scarabeo 250 (sold)
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:49 am linkquote
znomit wrote:
Are there extra switches there?
It looks like it, the dash has a larger LCD display area under the analog speedo.. probably buttons/switches to access menu selection etc..
Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:02 am

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Location: The Netherlands
 
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:02 am linkquote
OH NO!!!

They gave the handlebars the fake aluminum Sprint-look around the switches.
Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:10 am

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'22 Piaggio Liberty 150 S '07 Kymco People 150 '12 GTS 300 Super (sold) '06 Aprilia Scarabeo 250 (sold)
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:10 am linkquote
Mopmop wrote:
OH NO!!!

They gave the handlebars the fake aluminum Sprint-look around the switches.
As a fan of the Sprint, I was hoping they'd put a square headlight on the GTS too, at least on one of the trim levels!
Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:02 am

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2020 GTS 300 HPE
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Location: San Francisco
 
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:02 am linkquote
Unless they change the top speed, all of this is just making me more confident I'll be keeping my 2020.
Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:02 am

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:02 am linkquote
mayorofnow wrote:
Unless they change the top speed, all of this is just making me more confident I'll be keeping my 2020.
Yup, for us who bought the 2019 model no real need for an upgeade.

I also prefer the look of my tail light and the fact the license plate sits higher on mine. On the new modell it's abour 3 inches lower, below that weird looking 'nipple' sticking out above it. No wheelies anymore, guys...we are likely to end up with a licence plate on the tarmac if we try that
Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:24 am

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:24 am linkquote
IMHO, the shiny chrome around the controls and on the leg shield trim (a la the sprint) cheapens the look, sigh. Change is hard to accept, ha!
Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:40 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
GT 2.4
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:40 am linkquote
Clampett wrote:
Can't see it. Says you must log in to view.
This might work for you.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/remove-facebook-login-popup
Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:02 am

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:02 am linkquote
New tail light and odo.





Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:52 am

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:52 am linkquote
Gold



Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:21 pm

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:21 pm linkquote
babola wrote:
New tail light and odo.
And still only one blinker indicator, instead of a left and a right one. Sigh...
Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:29 pm

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Location: Chicago
 
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:29 pm linkquote
Love all the detail changes....the red/black one with all of the black trim is gorgeous!
Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:37 pm

Molto Verboso
2020 GTS 300 HPE
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Location: San Francisco
 
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:37 pm linkquote
Thanks reverse image search!

And apparently it's already on eBay.
Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:49 pm

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2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC 38,000km)
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Posts: 2312
Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
 
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2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC 38,000km)
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Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:49 pm linkquote
lol, they've adding a temperature gauge which was stupidly missing in previous gts
Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:58 pm

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2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC 38,000km)
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Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
 
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:58 pm linkquote
and a pic from the other side.

New front fork cover. transmission cover looks the same. Is that the same front suspension and brake? hard to see in those pics.



Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:15 pm

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Sprint 150
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Location: Seattle, WA
 
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Sprint 150
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:15 pm linkquote
babola wrote:
New tail light and odo.
The lower part of the new speedo assembly seems to be an LED segment display. I am curious what the areas below the ASR are for. There seem to be two distinct spaces and these two hair-lines in the display. I wonder what goes there.
steelbytes wrote:
and a pic from the other side.

... Is that the same front suspension and brake? hard to see in those pics. ...
I don't have a GTS, but I did see this photo.



Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:31 pm

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2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC 38,000km)
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:31 pm linkquote
alpine wrote:
I don't have a GTS, but I did see this photo.
looks like new brakes front and rear including the mounting of the front. And what is that black line going diag upwards from the bottom of the spring to behind the fork cover? maybe just a support for the cover?

BTW I hate the new fork cover as I find my fork cover gets very very dirty, ie it is protecting my front shock from a hell of a lot of crap

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Wed Sep 28, 2022 4:53 pm

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2015 GTS 300 Super (Melody: 2015-2021, RIP) 2022 GTS SuperTech (Thelonica)
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Posts: 3751
Location: Asbury Park, NJ
 
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 4:53 pm linkquote
alpine wrote:
The lower part of the new speedo assembly seems to be an LED segment display. I am curious what the areas below the ASR are for. There seem to be two distinct spaces and these two hair-lines in the display. I wonder what goes there.



I don't have a GTS, but I did see this photo.
Waaaaitaminute…I like those stripes on the fender, particularly if they're reflective (which they don't appear to be, especially in the close-up photo). I put a reflective stripe between the footwell on Thelonica about two weeks ago, partly to "be (better-) seen", partly for appearance's sake. (Fat lot of good it did for me yesterday…)
Mopmop wrote:
And still only one blinker indicator, instead of a left and a right one. Sigh...
Look on the bright side: they don't want to make us too envious of "next year's model", if we (I) just bought this year's.


"Reflections of the way life used to be…"

Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:44 pm

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2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC 38,000km)
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Posts: 2312
Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
 
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Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:44 pm linkquote
some differences to the transmission housing vs my 2019 supertech Asia/Pacific E3. Obviously the highlighted differences don't matter but you have to wonder why? Are the internals different?

Makes me wonder about a 2022 E5 ... anyone got a good photo of that?

PS I still havent installed the Frandos that are sitting here looking at me with a "come on ya lazy bastard" expression



Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:59 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
LX190 Friday afternoon special, Primavera, some pushbikes
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
LX190 Friday afternoon special, Primavera, some pushbikes
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Posts: 8608
Location: Hermit Kingdom
Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:59 pm linkquote
Did it get the essential 12pt grade 12.9 fasteners?
Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:06 pm

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2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC 38,000km)
Joined: 17 Nov 2020
Posts: 2312
Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
 
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Posts: 2312
Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:06 pm linkquote
znomit wrote:
Did it get the essential 12pt grade 12.9 fasteners?
dunno. But as long as they're chrome plated
Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:37 pm

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GTS300 Super 2015 Blue, GTS300 Super 2018 White
Joined: 01 Nov 2005
Posts: 3149
Location: Sydney, Australia
 
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GTS300 Super 2015 Blue, GTS300 Super 2018 White
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:37 pm linkquote
steelbytes wrote:
PS I still havent installed the Frandos that are sitting here looking at me with a "come on ya lazy bastard" expression
Go on. Fit them. Having much better brakes will change your riding style.

Only problem is bleeding them with all that ABS stuff. You may have to go to a Vespa workshop.
Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:47 pm

Molto Verboso
GTS 300ie Touring 2013 - Signora D'argento & GTS 300ie HPE 2022 - Regina Arancione.
Joined: 03 Jun 2018
Posts: 1969
Location: Lancaster, U.K.
 
Molto Verboso
GTS 300ie Touring 2013 - Signora D'argento & GTS 300ie HPE 2022 - Regina Arancione.
Joined: 03 Jun 2018
Posts: 1969
Location: Lancaster, U.K.
Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:47 pm linkquote
babola wrote:
New tail light




Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:39 pm

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GTS300 Super 2015 Blue, GTS300 Super 2018 White
Joined: 01 Nov 2005
Posts: 3149
Location: Sydney, Australia
 
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GTS300 Super 2015 Blue, GTS300 Super 2018 White
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Posts: 3149
Location: Sydney, Australia
Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:39 pm linkquote
I agree. That taillight is a bit too much. I prefer the earlier GTS300 taillight without the chrome surround. It followed the body lines nicely.
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