Fri, 07 Oct 2022 12:35:57 +0000

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2008 MP3 500, 2013 BV350, 2020 Vespa Sei Giorni
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
2008 MP3 500, 2013 BV350, 2020 Vespa Sei Giorni
Joined: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 12:48:57 +0000
Posts: 8783
Location: Ashburn, Va. Home to the Internet
Fri, 07 Oct 2022 20:04:38 +0000

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Vespa C38 - S50 4T Super.
Joined: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 12:44:41 +0000
Posts: 58
Location: Netherlands
 
Enthusiast
Vespa C38 - S50 4T Super.
Joined: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 12:44:41 +0000
Posts: 58
Location: Netherlands
Fri, 07 Oct 2022 20:04:38 +0000 linkquote
Diesel oil is often used in larger motorcycle engines, whose owners have small budgets. It usually fulfills all the requirements in the JATO oil standard for motorcycle engines. That standard is mostly so the oil will fully lubricate the engine, while not making the wet clutch slip.
I have yet to hear of serious issue those owners have run into with use of diesel oil.

It is doubtful if using diesel oil in the small engines in scooters is worth it. Scooters rarely use much more than an a quart, or a liter, of oil so the price difference is negligible. They don't have wet clutches so you don't need the additives for that.
Sat, 08 Oct 2022 00:13:07 +0000

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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:16:15 +0000
Posts: 41692
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
 
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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:16:15 +0000
Posts: 41692
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
Sat, 08 Oct 2022 00:13:07 +0000 linkquote
T.S.Zarathusra wrote:
They don't have wet clutches so you don't need the additives for that.
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Those that *do* have wet clutches (BV350 etc) don't share the same oil as the engine.
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Sat, 08 Oct 2022 05:26:53 +0000

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LXV 150 3v ie. Midnight Blue (Sold) Now Honda Zoomer X
Joined: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 04:44:45 +0000
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Location: Kingdom of Lanna
 
Ossessionato
LXV 150 3v ie. Midnight Blue (Sold) Now Honda Zoomer X
Joined: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 04:44:45 +0000
Posts: 3833
Location: Kingdom of Lanna
Sat, 08 Oct 2022 05:26:53 +0000 linkquote
Shell Rotella as an example is fine for scooters with dry clutches. Nothing to do with its price. It has all the lubrication properties necessary. MB specific scooter oil would be better?

Not sure about all motorbikes although it does comply with JASO MA.
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Sat, 12 Nov 2022 19:14:30 +0000

Member
BV350
Joined: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 21:24:56 +0000
Posts: 7
Location: SW of the GWN
 
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BV350
Joined: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 21:24:56 +0000
Posts: 7
Location: SW of the GWN
Sat, 12 Nov 2022 19:14:30 +0000 linkquote
I used T Rotella for 100,000 kms on 2 VStroms and it was fine, but I've not even considered it for the BV350. As you say the intervals are long and the volume small, so why not stay with the factory recommendations?
Shirker
Mon, 14 Nov 2022 17:12:49 +0000

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2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
Joined: Tue, 06 Oct 2020 17:35:13 +0000
Posts: 469
Location: Reno
 
Hooked
2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
Joined: Tue, 06 Oct 2020 17:35:13 +0000
Posts: 469
Location: Reno
Mon, 14 Nov 2022 17:12:49 +0000 linkquote
Non detergent is important for any wet sump motor
The crank or straight cut gears splashing through oil with detergent will cause oil to foam
   

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