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Which is correct? I thought the 2022 Piaggio Liberty Baci Perugina I bought had a LEATHER seat as advertised. But now for 2023 the San Diego dealer says different.

Is it a leather or vinyl seat?

vespamotorsport.com says
The famous Baci logo adorns the shield while the vinyl seat is in a rich brown that perfectly captures the chocolatey coating of the Luisa® Original Dark, the eternal Perugina symbol that inspired this delectable work of art.


Piaggio.com website says
The famous Baci logo adorns the shield while the leather seat is in a rich brown that perfectly captures the chocolatey coating of the Luisa® Original Dark, the eternal Perugina symbol that inspired this delectable work of art.

Which is correct?
2022/2023 seat is it leather or vinyl??
2022/2023 seat is it leather or vinyl??
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It's leather. Possibly not Genuine Leather though.
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Try smelling it. We all know what real leather smells like.

Or, put a single drop of water on the seat. Real leather will absorb it, with vinyl it will sit on the surface.
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Nah, leather with any kind of sealant will shed water.
Not all reviewers know that it is leather according to Piaggio. Wouldn't be vespamotorsports first mistake.
Does it list as same price as the S model?
I'd look under the seat. Closely inspect the edges.
Smell it.
Let's assume "leather" is not just shorthand for vinyl by the Italian ad writers..
So...I'd say it is leather.....so you can sleep tonight 🙃
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I grew up during the Micheal Jackson craze and remember all those pleather clone multi-zipper jackets. And everyone at one point had one of those black leather-like couches. Please solve the mystery and let us know what its made of.
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Even the GTV's have vinyl seats these days. I'd be surprised if that Liberty has a real leather seat - and you probably wouldn't want one anyway, given their vulnerability to wet weather.

BTW the Piaggio Group magazine describes the seat this way - "The dark leather coloured seat recalls the colours of the Luisa dark chocolate coating for which Perugina's masterpiece of goodness has always stood out." And I notice the the Baci Perugina model is the same price as the standard 150 Liberty S.
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Dooglas wrote:
Even the GTV's have vinyl seats these days. I'd be surprised if that Liberty has a real leather seat - and you probably wouldn't want one anyway, given their vulnerability to wet weather.

BTW the Piaggio Group magazine describes the seat this way - "The dark leather coloured seat recalls the colours of the Luisa dark chocolate coating for which Perugina's masterpiece of goodness has always stood out." And I notice the the Baci Perugina model is the same price as the standard 150 Liberty S.
Ah, I think we have an answer!
Web site writers a bit loose with their descriptions ....not realizing how very particular are Piaggio/Vespa owners!
I, too - noted that word "leather" on the site when I first read it - and thought, "Wow! Cool...not just stickers - but a leather seat, too!"
Still a nice color.
Euro Liberties have some really classy seat/paint color combinations!...apparently too classy for Americans.

O.S.
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My GTS has the optional leather seat, it is without a doubt the dumbest upgrade ever fit to any motorcycle I've ever owned...

Why? Get it wet and find out...

Just sayin.
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here's an easy way to check, lift the seat and have a look

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Dooglas wrote:
"The dark leather coloured seat...."
translation: only 100% virgin Nauga's were used in the production of this seat.

rich Corinthian leather, it is not.
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Few people realize the original Nauga farm was in Chernobyl. Over the years, Naugas either mutated or died out. Now, Piaggio harvests Ultraleather Toscana from these creatures, which many serious biologists who post exceedingly useful information on Facebook have classed as an Atomic Nauga. Their skin is often referred to as Vegan Leather.
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