Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:44 pm

Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 1214
Location: Philadelphia
 
Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 2005 70cc Yamaha Vino
Joined: 23 Aug 2020
Posts: 1214
Location: Philadelphia
Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:44 pm linkquote
Anyone see this yet? Thoughts?
Keeps the engine and transmission so you still shift. That's pretty awesome.

https://scooterlab.uk/pinasco-eureka-geared-electric-vespa-news/
Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:34 pm

Molto Verboso
PX 200
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 1109

 
Molto Verboso
PX 200
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 1109

Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:34 pm linkquote
Looks cool!

First time I've been interested in an electric Vespa.

But saw it was from Pinasco… so minus 100points.

Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:30 am

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1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 3336
Location: Veria, Greece
 
Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 3336
Location: Veria, Greece
Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:30 am linkquote
108 wrote:
Looks cool!

First time I've been interested in an electric Vespa.

But saw it was from Pinasco… so minus 100points.


I'm pretty sure they'll find a way for cracked pistons, cranks, etc. even being electric…
Fri Nov 04, 2022 3:08 am

Molto Verboso
PX 200
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 1109

 
Molto Verboso
PX 200
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Posts: 1109

Fri Nov 04, 2022 3:08 am linkquote
SaFiS wrote:
I'm pretty sure they'll find a way for cracked pistons, cranks, etc. even being electric…
Shame.

The brand seemed pretty strong in the 80's. Not many companies coming out with parts like them.

Recent rep will be tough on them.
Fri Nov 04, 2022 3:21 am

Addicted
Joined: 28 May 2020
Posts: 603
Location: Planet Earth
 
Addicted
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Posts: 603
Location: Planet Earth
Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:11 am

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1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 3336
Location: Veria, Greece
 
Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 3336
Location: Veria, Greece
Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:11 am linkquote
108 wrote:
Shame.

The brand seemed pretty strong in the 80's. Not many companies coming out with parts like them.

Recent rep will be tough on them.
Exactly. They were OK in the 80s and unfortunately lots of their kits got stuck there too (not to mention overpriced compared to Malossi and Quattrini). Since Andrea sold the company, quality went down, even if they seem to do some revolutionary stuff. Marketing seems to be more important to them…
Tue Nov 08, 2022 4:19 am

Molto Verboso
PX 200
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 1109

 
Molto Verboso
PX 200
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Posts: 1109

Tue Nov 08, 2022 4:19 am linkquote
SaFiS wrote:
Exactly. They were OK in the 80s and unfortunately lots of their kits got stuck there too (not to mention overpriced compared to Malossi and Quattrini). Since Andrea sold the company, quality went down, even if they seem to do some revolutionary stuff. Marketing seems to be more important to them…
Not much longevity with that approach…

Scooter owners get wise pretty quickly.
Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:18 am

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'70 Super 150, Aprilia SR MT 125, Moto Guzzi Bellagio
Joined: 22 Nov 2011
Posts: 2358
Location: Sydney, Australia
 
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'70 Super 150, Aprilia SR MT 125, Moto Guzzi Bellagio
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Posts: 2358
Location: Sydney, Australia
Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:18 am linkquote
How does that work? Electric motor inside the casings? Also, it sounds terrible. I'm still interested in an electric motor for my Super if a kit pops up that's affordable with good range.
Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:34 am

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Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 2274
Location: Siam
 
Ossessionato
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 2274
Location: Siam
Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:34 am linkquote
It's the future slowly creeping up on us. Eventually anyone still using fossil fuel in transportation will become the enemy.
Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:32 am

Not So Moderator
VNB VSC o9c VMA vbc VSX
Joined: 28 May 2008
Posts: 6562
Location: Hustletown, TX
 
Not So Moderator
VNB VSC o9c VMA vbc VSX
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Posts: 6562
Location: Hustletown, TX
Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:32 am linkquote
^^^^
Cue the Rush song Red Barchetta (Cleverly redone of course, an a ska version called Red Lambretta).
Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:38 pm

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79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 3284
Location: Florence, OR
 
Ossessionato
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 3284
Location: Florence, OR
Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:38 pm linkquote
Birdsnest wrote:
^^^^
Cue the Rush song Red Barchetta (Cleverly redone of course, an a ska version called Red Lambretta).
Red Barchetta, er, Lambretta Now who can play this Ala SKA? FridayMatinee?
Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:49 pm

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Joined: 24 Jan 2008
Posts: 2089
Location: Santa Margarita,Ca.
 
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Location: Santa Margarita,Ca.
Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:49 pm linkquote
Bobo wrote:
Also, it sounds terrible.
That's probably about what our scooters drive train sounds like without the two-stoke staccato covering up the noise. Maybe they'll engineer a playing card and laundry pin to put in the flywheel fins.
Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:43 pm

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 12200
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 12200
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:43 pm linkquote
scootermarc69 wrote:
That's probably about what our scooters drive train sounds like without the two-stoke staccato covering up the noise. Maybe they'll engineer a playing card and laundry pin to put in the flywheel fins.

no worries, they'll just sell a set of speakers so you can have a sound track like how they pipe in the engine sound on the new cars.

fortunately we're all set:
Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:40 am

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62 VBB1T Round Tail W/ leaner sidecar
Joined: 26 Jan 2019
Posts: 3284
Location: california
 
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62 VBB1T Round Tail W/ leaner sidecar
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Posts: 3284
Location: california
Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:40 am linkquote
I like the geared approach - at least in concept.
Always thought it would provide more top end - though know most electric vehicles don't use any sort of transmission.
What does Tesla know anyway?

Our gear trains are really that loud.
Kinda silly they kept the fins on the fly wheel - that is just lost power.
Maybe that will be changed on the production model.
Suspect they have a pulley behind the flywheel and the motor mounted where the cylinder head would have gone - also with a pulley - belt connecting the two.
Sat Nov 19, 2022 3:23 am

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Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 2274
Location: Siam
 
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Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 2274
Location: Siam
Sat Nov 19, 2022 3:23 am linkquote
charlieman22 wrote:
What does Tesla know anyway?
Well, I've seen enough videos of them either catching fire or running amuck not being able to stop to wonder about this question. The owner is also more than enough of a jackass to dissuade me from ever buying one of their cars.
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