Thu, 17 Nov 2022 15:39:16 +0000

Molto Verboso
Dongfang 170cc, CF Moto Fashion 250
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Molto Verboso
Dongfang 170cc, CF Moto Fashion 250
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Thu, 17 Nov 2022 15:39:16 +0000 linkquote
It makes the BMW CE-04 look almost normal/

https://www.rideapart.com/news/621729/xcell-hydrogen-bike-concept-design/
Thu, 17 Nov 2022 15:51:21 +0000

Molto Verboso
1979 P200E (sold) / ZNEN Amore 150 (sold) / Genuine Buddy 170i / Genuine Stella 4T /Aprilia Sportcity One 50
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Molto Verboso
1979 P200E (sold) / ZNEN Amore 150 (sold) / Genuine Buddy 170i / Genuine Stella 4T /Aprilia Sportcity One 50
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Thu, 17 Nov 2022 15:51:21 +0000 linkquote
Good grief, it's the scooter equivalent of Nigel Tufnel's guitar.
Sun, 20 Nov 2022 02:33:48 +0000

Ossessionato
2015 GTS 300 Super (Melody: 2015-2021, RIP), 2022 GTS SuperTech (Thelonica)
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Sun, 20 Nov 2022 02:33:48 +0000 linkquote
This machine (linked from the same article) looks a bit more palatable, if equally fanciful in terms of possible implementation:

https://www.rideapart.com/news/601866/tvs-developing-hydrogen-powered-scooter/
Mon, 21 Nov 2022 20:36:57 +0000

Ossessionato
GTS300 Super (Heinz) GTS250 Super (Bulger)
Joined: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 03:43:22 +0000
Posts: 4319
Location: Tempe, AZ
 
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GTS300 Super (Heinz) GTS250 Super (Bulger)
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Mon, 21 Nov 2022 20:36:57 +0000 linkquote
amateriat wrote:
This machine (linked from the same article) looks a bit more palatable, if equally fanciful in terms of possible implementation:

https://www.rideapart.com/news/601866/tvs-developing-hydrogen-powered-scooter/
Linda Hamilton would ride that in the next Terminator movie!
Mon, 21 Nov 2022 20:49:25 +0000

Molto Verboso
2009 GTS250, Ducati Monster M900
Joined: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 03:48:31 +0000
Posts: 1051
Location: Oceanside, CA
 
Molto Verboso
2009 GTS250, Ducati Monster M900
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Mon, 21 Nov 2022 20:49:25 +0000 linkquote
..and those rear cupholders are still too small! It's apparently not just an issue isolated to their cars.
Mon, 21 Nov 2022 21:05:46 +0000

Petty Tyrant
0:7 And counting
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Location: Bay Area, California
 
Petty Tyrant
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Mon, 21 Nov 2022 21:05:46 +0000 linkquote
Shebalba wrote:
..and those rear cupholders are still too small! It's apparently not just an issue isolated to their cars.
Those are actually shot glass holders.
Mon, 21 Nov 2022 21:12:41 +0000

Molto Verboso
2009 GTS250, Ducati Monster M900
Joined: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 03:48:31 +0000
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Location: Oceanside, CA
 
Molto Verboso
2009 GTS250, Ducati Monster M900
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Mon, 21 Nov 2022 21:12:41 +0000 linkquote
jess wrote:
Those are actually shot glass holders.
Maybe this? But you need to buy three in order for it to work?



Wed, 23 Nov 2022 15:51:13 +0000

Hooked
2013 BV350, 2014 GTS , 2016 GTS, 2013 Downtown 300i
Joined: Tue, 03 Mar 2020 20:40:13 +0000
Posts: 353
Location: Dahlonega, GA
 
Hooked
2013 BV350, 2014 GTS , 2016 GTS, 2013 Downtown 300i
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 15:51:13 +0000 linkquote
kz1000ST wrote:
"That said, it's still a magnificent thing to behold. Its creators envision it as a hydrogen-powered machine, with a range of approximately 200 kilometers (124-ish miles), and a top speed of 200 kilometers per hour (or 124 mph, give or take). Its only emission would be water, says X-Idea Industrial Design Company. "

I'm not sure where they got those numbers, but those numbers are better than the current round of $10k+ EV motorcycles.
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 17:54:56 +0000

Petty Tyrant
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Petty Tyrant
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 17:54:56 +0000 linkquote
rdhood wrote:
I'm not sure where they got those numbers, but those numbers are better than the current round of $10k+ EV motorcycles.
I'm not entirely sure the numbers are solid, but regardless -- it's not really comparable to an EV motorcycle, since the fuel source is hydrogen instead of a battery.
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 19:15:25 +0000

Hooked
2013 BV350, 2014 GTS , 2016 GTS, 2013 Downtown 300i
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Location: Dahlonega, GA
 
Hooked
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 19:15:25 +0000 linkquote
jess wrote:
I'm not entirely sure the numbers are solid, but regardless -- it's not really comparable to an EV motorcycle, since the fuel source is hydrogen instead of a battery.
Of course they are comparable. "Compare and contrast" is exactly what one does one evaluating technologies Where's the rule that says that one can't compare mileage/range of an EV and a hydrogen powered vehicle? We do it all the time with other ice fuels and EVs. Why wouldn't we do it with hydrogen?
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 19:18:40 +0000

Petty Tyrant
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 19:18:40 +0000 linkquote
rdhood wrote:
Of course they are comparable. "Compare and contrast" is exactly what one does one evaluating technologies Where's the rule that says that one can't compare mileage/range of an EV and a hydrogen powered vehicle? We do it all the time with other ice fuels and EVs. Why wouldn't we do it with hydrogen?
You sounded surprised that they were substantially better than EV. I was attempting to explain why. If you'd like to compare apples to oranges, though, be my guest.
   

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