Tue, 22 Nov 2022 16:33:19 +0000

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2018 Primavera 150, 2015 Sprint 150, 2018 GTS 300
Joined: Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:48:27 +0000
Posts: 276
Location: SoCal
 
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2018 Primavera 150, 2015 Sprint 150, 2018 GTS 300
Joined: Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:48:27 +0000
Posts: 276
Location: SoCal
Tue, 22 Nov 2022 16:33:19 +0000 linkquote
Here is my list,

Title
Current registration
Master key
Service records
oil
tires
coolant
water pump
Engine, head gasket
underbody damage, fluid leaks
any signs of body or paint work,
underbody
Tue, 22 Nov 2022 17:33:34 +0000

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Vespa GTS 300
Joined: Fri, 02 Sep 2022 18:41:22 +0000
Posts: 119
Location: Germany
 
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Vespa GTS 300
Joined: Fri, 02 Sep 2022 18:41:22 +0000
Posts: 119
Location: Germany
Tue, 22 Nov 2022 17:33:34 +0000 linkquote
oil motor + gear

New HPE engine with more power from 2019, if that's important to you + Headlights and taillights now use LED technology, new cascade & other optical revisions.

I'm not familiar with used Vespa prices outside of Germany, but here the difference from a new Vespa to a 3-5 year old one is often so small that you're better off buying a new one.

Vespa has become more expensive here in Europe from year to year. In some cases, used ones are asking almost exactly what the ERP (including tax) was at the time.

What is the price difference from new to 3/4/5 years old ones and at witch mileage?
Tue, 22 Nov 2022 18:50:47 +0000

Hooked
2018 Primavera 150, 2015 Sprint 150, 2018 GTS 300
Joined: Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:48:27 +0000
Posts: 276
Location: SoCal
 
Hooked
2018 Primavera 150, 2015 Sprint 150, 2018 GTS 300
Joined: Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:48:27 +0000
Posts: 276
Location: SoCal
Tue, 22 Nov 2022 18:50:47 +0000 linkquote
GermanGTSDriver wrote:
oil motor + gear

New HPE engine with more power from 2019, if that's important to you + Headlights and taillights now use LED technology, new cascade & other optical revisions.

I'm not familiar with used Vespa prices outside of Germany, but here the difference from a new Vespa to a 3-5 year old one is often so small that you're better off buying a new one.

Vespa has become more expensive here in Europe from year to year. In some cases, used ones are asking almost exactly what the ERP (including tax) was at the time.

What is the price difference from new to 3/4/5 years old ones and at witch mileage?
About $9k USD with taxes, destination, dealer prep and fees for a new 2022 and over $10k for brand new 2023
Used 2015-2020 GTS with low miles $5-7k + 8% tax, plus registration once current tags run out



Tue, 22 Nov 2022 19:33:19 +0000

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Vespa GTS 300
Joined: Fri, 02 Sep 2022 18:41:22 +0000
Posts: 119
Location: Germany
 
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Vespa GTS 300
Joined: Fri, 02 Sep 2022 18:41:22 +0000
Posts: 119
Location: Germany
Tue, 22 Nov 2022 19:33:19 +0000 linkquote
CaliforniaCruising wrote:
About $9k USD with taxes, destination, dealer prep and fees for a new 2022 and over $10k for brand new 2023
Used 2015-2020 GTS with low miles $5-7k + 8% tax, plus registration once current tags run out
A 2023 GTS 300 starts in Germany at 6999€ ERP including tax and all "Ambient noises", (SuperTech 300 7499€ all-in).

A 2019 GTS 300 is minimum 5k, realistic between 5.5k and 6k, there are no taxes if it is a private offer. 2019 ERP was 6400€…

Registration and Licenseplate is 80-100€ for each new owner, yearly 35€ tax and 100-130€ insurance
Tue, 22 Nov 2022 21:53:22 +0000

Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 18:39:51 +0000
Posts: 3351
Location: Veria, Greece
 
Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 18:39:51 +0000
Posts: 3351
Location: Veria, Greece
Tue, 22 Nov 2022 21:53:22 +0000 linkquote
HOLLY SH..T!!! You get shafted in the US...

Same Super goes for 6599€ out the door here, including taxes and registration / plate...

You only need to insure it...

Also, Piaggio's currently running a promotion for the 2023 models gifting accessories with each purchase (up to 730€)...

Three available kits to choose from (Urban Pack, Touring Pack, Protection Pack)...

Urban Pack: flyscreen, rear folding rack & top case with carpet
Touring Pack: flyscreen, rear folding rack, top case & front mudguard bumper
Protection Pack: flyscreen, all around bumpers / guards
Tue, 22 Nov 2022 23:22:08 +0000

Hooked
Vespa GTS 300
Joined: Fri, 02 Sep 2022 18:41:22 +0000
Posts: 119
Location: Germany
 
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Vespa GTS 300
Joined: Fri, 02 Sep 2022 18:41:22 +0000
Posts: 119
Location: Germany
Tue, 22 Nov 2022 23:22:08 +0000 linkquote
SaFiS wrote:
HOLLY SH..T!!! You get shafted in the US...

Same Super goes for 6599€ out the door here, including taxes and registration / plate...

You only need to insure it...
I would not necessarily speak of rip-off now... Think of freight and the difference is certainly also historically conditioned when the euro exchange rate stood better to the dollar (currently about 1:1, not long ago when it was still 1€:1.10/1.20$)

I didn't want to go into the differences between the USA and Europe. I had mentioned the figures or asked for them to show that in Germany the difference between new and about 3 years old is so small that it is better to buy a new one here instead of a used one.
SaFiS wrote:
Also, Piaggio's currently running a promotion for the 2023 models gifting accessories with each purchase (up to 730€)...

Three available kits to choose from (Urban Pack, Touring Pack, Protection Pack)...

Urban Pack: flyscreen, rear folding rack & top case with carpet
Touring Pack: flyscreen, rear folding rack, top case & front mudguard bumper
Protection Pack: flyscreen, all around bumpers / guards
That's crazy! A brand new model and then directly free additions...

On the old models it has given here in the summer either foldable rack with top case OR free warranty extension from 2 to 4 years.
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 05:42:37 +0000

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2018 Primavera 150, 2015 Sprint 150, 2018 GTS 300
Joined: Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:48:27 +0000
Posts: 276
Location: SoCal
 
Hooked
2018 Primavera 150, 2015 Sprint 150, 2018 GTS 300
Joined: Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:48:27 +0000
Posts: 276
Location: SoCal
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 05:42:37 +0000 linkquote
GermanGTSDriver wrote:
I would not necessarily speak of rip-off now... Think of freight and the difference is certainly also historically conditioned when the euro exchange rate stood better to the dollar (currently about 1:1, not long ago when it was still 1€:1.10/1.20$)

I didn't want to go into the differences between the USA and Europe. I had mentioned the figures or asked for them to show that in Germany the difference between new and about 3 years old is so small that it is better to buy a new one here instead of a used one.




That's crazy! A brand new model and then directly free additions...

On the old models it has given here in the summer either foldable rack with top case OR free warranty extension from 2 to 4 years.
Got a nice 2018 GTS 300 with some nice Vespa accessories and only 630 miles this afternoon for a wee bit less than half the price of a 2023 out the door California price.
The bike is really clean and the owner was cool as he🏒🏒.


Had a 60 mile, mostly canyon roads run home, unlike my Sprint or Primavera 150, people were pulling over to let me go by.













Wed, 23 Nov 2022 08:49:43 +0000

Hooked
Vespa GTS 300
Joined: Fri, 02 Sep 2022 18:41:22 +0000
Posts: 119
Location: Germany
 
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Vespa GTS 300
Joined: Fri, 02 Sep 2022 18:41:22 +0000
Posts: 119
Location: Germany
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 08:49:43 +0000 linkquote
Have fun with your new Bella!
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:38:10 +0000

Veni, Vidi, Posti
GTS 300, Buddy 125
Joined: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:51:53 +0000
Posts: 8381
Location: Knoxville, TN
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
GTS 300, Buddy 125
Joined: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:51:53 +0000
Posts: 8381
Location: Knoxville, TN
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:38:10 +0000 linkquote
Nice looking scoot you scored there.
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:58:07 +0000

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2007 LX150 2015 GTS 2013 BV 350
Joined: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 00:46:39 +0000
Posts: 11035
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
2007 LX150 2015 GTS 2013 BV 350
Joined: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 00:46:39 +0000
Posts: 11035
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:58:07 +0000 linkquote
Sweet!
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 17:17:22 +0000

Hooked
2018 Primavera 150, 2015 Sprint 150, 2018 GTS 300
Joined: Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:48:27 +0000
Posts: 276
Location: SoCal
 
Hooked
2018 Primavera 150, 2015 Sprint 150, 2018 GTS 300
Joined: Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:48:27 +0000
Posts: 276
Location: SoCal
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 17:17:22 +0000 linkquote
fledermaus wrote:
Sweet!
Thanks, can't wait until it needs a head gasket 😱

Seriously good job on your head gasket replacement, looking forward to the grand finale/1st start
   

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