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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 12:50:50 +0000 linkquote
HI I am being offered this scoot. was told its a 2007 250. Does not run. Was told, carb is "dirty and needs cleaning or replacement, $130.00"

I have a friend who has a 2011 which wouldn't start and he said it was because if the chip in the master key, not a fuel or spark related issue at all.

Oh, only has 433 miles as well.

Possible on this bike? the 2007?

Owner is asking $1500.00

Please give all the advice you can thanks!





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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 13:07:34 +0000 linkquote
What do you need support for? For your friend's 2011 or the 2007 you might want to buy?

If you're asking about the 2007s:

It's possible that it's only done 430 miles. Then certainly no inspections have been made.

Look at the DOT number (date of manufacture) of the tires -> tires should be replaced due to age.
Change engine oil and transmission oil
Change brake fluid
Replace spark plug
Change Filters
Check Belt (replace if needed)
the old fuel must be drained
if necessary the fuel hoses must be renewed
Check condition of brakes (disc and pads)
Battery is certainly flat, so replace (On the battery is usually also a manufacturing date)

So certainly more to do than just clean or replace carburetor. If you can't do the work yourself, there's also the service on top. Therefore, assess your skills well...

I can't tell you anything about the price, I don't know the price structure for used Vespa in the USA.

You can check if the mileage is plausible by looking at the manufacturing dates of tires and battery. Would expect that never changed tires/battery if mileage is plausible. If it was changed the owner should have a good explanation…

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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 13:09:58 +0000 linkquote
Is that verdigris / oxidized on the front swingarm and front reflector?

Has the Vespa been outside for a long time?
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 13:20:09 +0000 linkquote
That looks like an LX150. Judging from the inspection sticker it hasn't been ridden since 2007 so you'll have to do everything associated with such a bike: new hoses, new fluids, petcock, new tires, new filters, battery, etc. And I don't want to shock or depress you but the clock might not be working.
IMO the price is okay but not great. I think it's pretty easy to clean the carb, a new one is close to $300.
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 13:28:27 +0000 linkquote
Hi I am talking about this 2007. My main concern is why it won't run. Of course it has been neglected it has been sitting inside that I know of but possibly outside for a period of time also. In full disclosure the owner said he would sell it for $1000. Another issue is it does not have a title. I really didn't want to get into a project and get over my head. I was hoping it would be an easy fix to get it running if any of you knew why it possibly wouldn't run. I realize that is hard to diagnose. The person that said it is a 150 not a 250, how can you be certain?
My question is at $1000 could I get hurt on this purchase? Does the 2007 Have a chip in the key that I had mentioned prior? Could it be something as simple as that? I'm sure it has bad gas sitting as well but I haven't seen it in person yet.
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 13:38:20 +0000 linkquote
Have you tried to start it (e-starter / kickstarter)?
Describe what happens, what sounds do you hear or do you not hear?
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 13:52:20 +0000 linkquote
It needs to have the carb cleaned. That's 100%. Fresh gas. Then, odds are, it will start. That doesn't mean that you don't need to replace a ton of other stuff. You absolutely do. The key has a chip. The owner should have the brown key as well, but don't worry about the chip. That isn't why the bike won't run. Don't for a minute think that there's one weird trick that will fix an Italian scooter that's been sitting for fifteen years. You have to replace the fuel lines and other deteriorated rubber parts.
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 14:07:39 +0000 linkquote
I've never understood why something that "Ran when parked." sat all that time untouched. I'm pretty sure the seller said it was running before either life took their riding time away, or the original owner (Hence the missing title.) died and the seller just got around to selling it.

I personally hate projects, especially without titles, so it would be a easy pass for me. Unless I already had one of those exact scooters then I'd offer $500 as-is and part it out.

Something just seems fishy. No title and needs just a cheap carb then asking a mint for it as is? Pass.
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 14:25:22 +0000 linkquote
I agree. I did offer $500.00. He shot me down. Probably more trouble than this thing is worth as I don't want to get too heavily invested. I have not seen in person. O plan to do so next week to assess.
Any other thought on the model and displacement?

Would a larger 250 be worth more than a 150?

Thanks.
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 14:50:07 +0000 linkquote
The owner should be able to get the title for around $35.00 if he goes to a fast tags in Pa. That seems to be the biggest red flag to me. The not starting could be anything, corroded wire connections or a ground, starter or relay, Flooded EVAC, dirty carb, etc. I would be more worried about the reason it was just parked being so new 15 years ago.

The blue book is 2200 to 3400 in Pa. But without a title it's not worth it. If you buy a battery, tires, replace all rubber parts and lines, clean up all elec. connections, rebuild kit or carb, belt and tune up parts,your time, and it still doesn't start. Then you have to buy relays or a starter or maybe a new key and tumbler set.

It may be something simple or a PITA to figure out. It depends on your time and patience . If it were me and I still lived in your area AND it had a title, I would be all over the purchase. But I am gluten for punishment and love a challenge.
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 14:50:27 +0000 linkquote
nealf2002 wrote:
Would a larger 250 be worth more than a 150?

Thanks.
Absolutely! They are completely different bikes.
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 14:51:00 +0000 linkquote
250cc are fuel injected. No carb. Most 250s had a defective fuel pump and will need to be replaced for reliable operation. Vespa did have a recall on it.

Don't bother trying to start it with 15 yo gas. It won't start. Battery's prolly dead too. Empty and clean out gas tank before you try to start

There should be a be manufacture's ID plate on the inner fairing by your right foot. It will list the bike model, serial number, etc

Lack of title could be a big deal. I'd ask seller to resolve title before buying

Does it have the brown master key. It's the only key you can make additional keys from.

All rubber bits will need replacing,likely including coolant hoses. Coolant gets acidic and I've understood from others that it can degrade the aluminum engine but I'm not positive. Regardless it will need to be changed.

Will need 600 mileservice immediately

Unless you are going to do the work yourself, I'd recommend a pass, especially without a title, brown key and not running.

If you have someone else do the work, it will likely be $2k-ish if everything goes smoothly. If not smoothly, the costs will rise

Miguel

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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 15:17:14 +0000 linkquote
A 2007 GTS 250 is fuel injected not carburetor. The last carburetor large frame was the GT 250. That doesn't mean that the injectors don't need cleaning but if it really is a 250 it fuel injected as my 2006 GTS was.

Miguel is absolutely correct on his suggestions. Even if he gets the title sorted with the amount of work needed to get it ready to ride $1,000 is the most I'd spend if you could do the work yourself. Otherwise you could be looking at $1,500 by the time you replace all the fuel lines and other rubber bits, fluids, flush radiator and fuel tanks, belt and you might as well so the rollers if you have it apart. Often people have the mistaken idea that extremely low miles is a good thing. It isn't with the possible exception of some stored climate control indoors, drained of all fluids and prepped for long term storage. Even the after 15 years the rubber bits are suspect.

Edit: a 150 drop that to with title and $500 max. The 2007 LX 150s were carbureted.
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double posted

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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 15:44:36 +0000 linkquote
nealf2002 wrote:
Hi I am talking about this 2007. My main concern is why it won't run. Of course it has been neglected it has been sitting inside that I know of but possibly outside for a period of time also. In full disclosure the owner said he would sell it for $1000. Another issue is it does not have a title. I really didn't want to get into a project and get over my head. I was hoping it would be an easy fix to get it running if any of you knew why it possibly wouldn't run. I realize that is hard to diagnose. The person that said it is a 150 not a 250, how can you be certain?
My question is at $1000 could I get hurt on this purchase? Does the 2007 Have a chip in the key that I had mentioned prior? Could it be something as simple as that? I'm sure it has bad gas sitting as well but I haven't seen it in person yet.
Might be an easy fix... might not. I am guessing it is. Even so, you would still have to do ALL of the first major maintenance... but that is true on any bike over 5 years old that you are not 100% sure of the history.

The problem is the title. Every state has different rules. IF this owner did, in fact, have a tiltle and lost it, it is super easy to get it replaced ($8 in GA).

I'd give him $1000 for it IF he can get the title.
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 15:56:13 +0000 linkquote
All considered, I'd agree that $1K is worth the risk. You have to either expect some time and $$ in the shop or some work on your part. If you're up for that, good. If not, you can probably get more certainty for a bit more.
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:06:37 +0000 linkquote
If its a 150cc, $500 as-is with the title.

If its the 250cc then $750 as-is with title.

Here's the thing with a Vespa. Everyone thinks big money when they see it. This guy thinks just because it says Vespa he'll get big dollars for it. Look at the stuff in the background, he has the money to get a title if he "lost" it. And if its "only" a carb from sitting (assuming its a 150cc) then why not just buy a carb, replace the missing title and sell a running scooter with a legal title?

Again, I stand by my pricing above. I spin my own wrenches but winter is coming and I don't have a heated garage. As much as I hate projects I do still pick them wisely. The average "project" scooter/motorcycle cost around $300 to $600 dollars in parts depending on long long it sat or how bad it was damaged. Rotted tires, corroded brake caliper pistons, sticky master cylinders with rotted out inspection windows, nasty anti-freeze if water cooled, bunch of rubber hoses, dripping petcocks from possible tank rust, tank rust from nasty gas. The list can go on and on.
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:20:32 +0000 linkquote
Totally agree with sc00ter's pricing philosophy. A nonrunner is not worth more than $500; anything could be wrong with it. A nontitled scooter is not worth more than $500; anything could be wrong with the title.

In the worst-case scenarios the buyer has to spend a lot of time trying to correct whatever is wrong, sometimes a lot of money in parts in the process, and after all that take the time and effort to part out the scooter. Even that is still quite a bit of work to recoup the $500.

A nontitled, nonrunning scooter is worth almost nothing, in my book.

If the seller is butthurt over those numbers, let them get it running or straighten out the title and reprice accordingly.

If a naive buyer wants to pay more, let them.

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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:32:00 +0000 linkquote
^^^What Jennifer said
It's a 150
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:42:37 +0000 linkquote
It's a 150. A 250 doesn't have the turn signal pods, key lock on the seat or a kick starter. If the seller, to be charitable, can't tell the difference between a 150 and a 250, I don't think I would take anything else he said at face value.

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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 17:20:15 +0000 linkquote
Thanks for all the great information. Owner stores a buddy's car in this or another garage over the winter.

My buddy says he is a 75-80 year old doctor "who thinks his junk, house, and anything else is worth top dollar"...

I corresponded 2 months ago and he was dead set on $1500.00 after I offered $500.00

I came back to him last night and he now says $1k, cant go less...

Says he has paperwork, but no title.

I will just go to see it and assess in person, grab serial number and go from there. I will report back to the group.

Thanks!
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 17:31:37 +0000

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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 17:31:37 +0000 linkquote
update- may run over there today! seller is 79. bought from grandson of orig owner. she died and it sat.
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 17:50:32 +0000 linkquote
nealf2002 wrote:
update- may run over there today! seller is 79. bought from grandson of orig owner. she died and it sat.
So basically no title and unlikely to get a good clean title. I'd pass.
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 21:12:41 +0000

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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 21:12:41 +0000 linkquote
ok just got back from seeing it. not impressive. Every brightwork surface pitted. You can see that on the one photo. Rust spot under paint on left cowl. It is a 150. Owner said "I could part it out and get $5k for it" I said you should do that! Mind you he is 79 years old and thinks he knows everything.

It has been sitting for 15 years not stored sympathetically.

Not sure what it is worth but definitely not a grand to me...





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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 21:24:01 +0000 linkquote
Too bad, but maybe it's better that way. Keep looking, somewhere YOUR Vespa is waiting for you!
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 21:25:38 +0000 linkquote
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Owner said "I could part it out and get $5k for it".
Yeah good luck with that. He can always dream. Man, if I could get $5k out of my 07 LX I'd do it in a heartbeat. Even if I had to buy Mrs f a replacement.
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 22:49:21 +0000 linkquote
Hi,
I got a free LX50 from a neighbor.
Im a mechanic, and have had a few Vespas.
I thought I would just get it running, apply for title, and use it for around town.
Well...
Got it running, put a few hundred dollars into it, applied for title, and was rejected due to a technicality. (Filled out a form incorrectly).
If I could do it over, I would pass.....but I feel committed.

A 150 is a much better machine, but with no title, I would not spend more than $500.
You're going to get a new fuel tap, probably a new front brake caliper, all new hoses, new variator, maybe a new clutch, a new belt, other things.......
There are a lot of them out there...
Don't feel obligated.
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Thu, 24 Nov 2022 00:26:55 +0000 linkquote
That LX 150 is easily worth $1000 as is, where is.
If he doesn't have a key, that is going to be a $200 issue.
A new Carb will set you back about $200, and it will need one.
Probably needs a petcock or fuel valve, another $10
Hoses, another $10
Battery $50-60
Title, Vermont if you can't get a lost title form filled out and processed at the DMV.
So about $500 and maybe three hours in and you have a Vespa with 400 miles on it.
You might have to flush the brake fluid, but even if you have to replace the master cylinder, they're pretty cheap.
The tires are about six years past their prime, but they should be fine for a few thousand miles. Everything else can wait until it's running well.

And once it's running and cleaned up, it's worth 2000-3000 all day, depending on where it is.

Can you PM me the owner's information, so I can wire him some money let him know his bike's not worth anything?
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Thu, 24 Nov 2022 14:54:16 +0000 linkquote
LX150 As Motovista said - worth $1000 all day long. On the title - if lost, duplicate titles can be had by the owner, sometimes can be filed online with a small fee. No title? Vermont is your way out, or deal with the DMV in your own state. Money and time in, you will be ahead. Give it to a shop to work on and maybe you'll come out even - who knows? Paint is not going to be perfect on something that has been worked/moved around in a garage for many years. If this was near me, it would already be in the back of my truck.
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Thu, 24 Nov 2022 15:06:01 +0000 linkquote
cdwise wrote:
So basically no title and unlikely to get a good clean title. I'd pass.
Me too. In my neck of the woods it would be impossible to register it and get a license plate. Consequently you wouldn't be able to find an insurer. No title no deal. LEO's are really cracking down on PTW's without a license plate and paperwork. Probably because so many of them have been stolen. The OP may find her/himself in a pickle and how would you be able to prove that you were the true owner.
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Thu, 24 Nov 2022 16:04:11 +0000 linkquote
Max6200 wrote:
Me too.
Me three. Wide potential range of outcomes. Hours and hours of time for a civilian to track all the details down and fix them. No guarantee of success. Price should be adjusted down accordingly.

Sure, you'll hear the success stories of people who pay $100 for a no-start Vespa and get it running perfectly by adding fresh gas. You'll never hear the failure stories of people who pay $1000 for a no-start, no-title Vespa, spend 45 hours and $1500 trying to get it back on the road, and never succeed. They just won't want to talk about it for some reason.
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Thu, 24 Nov 2022 16:22:18 +0000 linkquote
nealf2002 wrote:
Thanks for all the great information. Owner stores a buddy's car in this or another garage over the winter.

My buddy says he is a 75-80 year old doctor "who thinks his junk, house, and anything else is worth top dollar"...

I corresponded 2 months ago and he was dead set on $1500.00 after I offered $500.00

I came back to him last night and he now says $1k, cant go less...

Says he has paperwork, but no title.

I will just go to see it and assess in person, grab serial number and go from there. I will report back to the group.

Thanks!
ITS A 150cc vespa
NO TITLE
I personally would not give over $500 because of that.
Titles are HUGELY important
with a title $750 because of NON RUNNING condition
running condition with title $1000.
Thu, 24 Nov 2022 19:36:44 +0000

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GTS 300ABS, Buddy 125, Buddy Kick 125
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Location: Oregon City, OR
 
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Thu, 24 Nov 2022 19:36:44 +0000 linkquote
This is a 15 year old LX150 (which is not a good thing), and it is described as having corroded chrome/alloy and rusty patches. Add that to the initial facts that it is a non-runner with no title. At $500 a bargain hunter might be tempted, but I would guess they would regret their action later. This is not a collectable, and there is no money to be made here IMO.
Thu, 24 Nov 2022 20:16:46 +0000

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LX50, P200E
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Thu, 24 Nov 2022 20:16:46 +0000 linkquote
Dooglas wrote:
This is a 15 year old LX150 (which is not a good thing), and it is described as having corroded chrome/alloy and rusty patches. Add that to the initial facts that it is a non-runner with no title. At $500 a bargain hunter might be tempted, but I would guess they would regret their action later. This is not a collectable, and there is no money to be made here IMO.
I totally agree with this.
An LX 150 is a fine little machine. (Emphasize little...)
My favorite little scooter.

When you get a cheap one, you generally always get creamed on parts and tweaks.
It doesn't feel like it over time, but at the end, if you add all the stuff up, you should have gotten the expensive one with a more powerful engine......for a little bit less.

Title issue?
Not worth it.
Thu, 24 Nov 2022 20:36:56 +0000

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LX150
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Location: Belle City
 
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LX150
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Thu, 24 Nov 2022 20:36:56 +0000 linkquote
I disagree. I'd buy it for $800 sight unseen. LX 150s are great scoots, and about as robust and simple as an Italian vehicle can get.
Sat, 26 Nov 2022 03:42:13 +0000

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Sat, 26 Nov 2022 03:42:13 +0000 linkquote
Juan_ORhea wrote:
Sure, you'll hear the success stories of people who pay $100 for a no-start Vespa and get it running perfectly by adding fresh gas. You'll never hear the failure stories of people who pay $1000 for a no-start, no-title Vespa, spend 45 hours and $1500 trying to get it back on the road, and never succeed. They just won't want to talk about it for some reason.
And if you've seen enough of them, you usually can tell which bikes just need a little TLC and which ones are mechanical nightmares. From what the OP has said, this is one of the former, and not something you are going to sink thousands of dollars into.

What is funny is that nobody who said it's only worth $500 would sell it for that if it was theirs, or they inherited or were given it with the story the OP laid out. "If it's mine, it's worth thousands, if it's someone elses, and I'm not actually interested in buying it, you would have to pay me to take it."
Someone is either going to get a nice scooter for a great price, or flip it and make a couple hundred dollars an hour for their time and effort.
Sat, 26 Nov 2022 16:36:27 +0000

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LX50, P200E
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Sat, 26 Nov 2022 16:36:27 +0000 linkquote
Motovista wrote:
And if you've seen enough of them, you usually can tell which bikes just need a little TLC and which ones are mechanical nightmares. From what the OP has said, this is one of the former, and not something you are going to sink thousands of dollars into.

What is funny is that nobody who said it's only worth $500 would sell it for that if it was theirs, or they inherited or were given it with the story the OP laid out. "If it's mine, it's worth thousands, if it's someone elses, and I'm not actually interested in buying it, you would have to pay me to take it."
Someone is either going to get a nice scooter for a great price, or flip it and make a couple hundred dollars an hour for their time and effort.
Agreed on all points.
LX 150's are a nice little machine and my favorite too.
I would pay upwards of $1500 for a nice running one.
The catch is the title situation.
The title situation in my area appeared easy enough to deal with, so I got all needed parts for my "free" 50.
Ended up with a non-sellable LX50.
(Long story......previous owner passed away, no relatives, got it from a neighbor, we made a mistake on a form and I was no longer able to title it under the abandoned vehicle process.
The answer was to get someone else to do it, but after waiting periods and fees, it took several months of aggravation.)

Also,
I got a good deal on a 150 a few years back, put 30k trouble free miles on it, sold it to a nice woman for what I paid for it....$500.
She still drives it.
So....it is possible to get a cheap 150.
Sat, 26 Nov 2022 16:45:52 +0000

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LX50, P200E
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Sat, 26 Nov 2022 16:45:52 +0000 linkquote
Is it actually legal to sell a scooter with no title?
Sat, 26 Nov 2022 17:44:09 +0000

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Sat, 26 Nov 2022 17:44:09 +0000 linkquote
crossbones wrote:
Is it actually legal to sell a scooter with no title?
Yes, and there are States where someone could register, insure and plate this particular scooter without a title.
   

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