Wed, 23 Nov 2022 13:09:53 +0000

Ossessionato
Black Beater SH150i(42,000)Red Devil SH150i (7,500)
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Location: Orange Park Florida
 
Ossessionato
Black Beater SH150i(42,000)Red Devil SH150i (7,500)
Joined: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 01:39:49 +0000
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Location: Orange Park Florida
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 13:09:53 +0000 linkquote
Don't know if this has been posted. It gives me some respect for dealerships. If I had more money than time, I'd support them.

Wed, 23 Nov 2022 13:32:29 +0000

Enthusiast
Vespa C38 - S50 4T Super.
Joined: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 12:44:41 +0000
Posts: 58
Location: Netherlands
 
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Vespa C38 - S50 4T Super.
Joined: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 12:44:41 +0000
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 13:32:29 +0000 linkquote
Motorcycle dealerships have it tough these days.
They used to sell new bikes, used bikes, service and clothing.
New bikes have small margins these days.
Used bikes are not really enough to build business, and anyone can do that without having a large showroom and a service department, so competition is fierce.
Good service technicians are hard to find, and most service now is an oil change,, maybe they can convince a customer he needs a new belt/chain. Almost any major service/repair costs more than the bike is worth.
Clothing sales has almost completely shifted from dealers to the internet.
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 14:39:36 +0000

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Joined: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 23:16:48 +0000
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Location: England
 
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Location: England
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 14:39:36 +0000 linkquote
The other problem dealers are finding is the push to electrification. On a normal Vespa, you have oil changes, valve adjustments, air filters, oil filters, a fuel system to maintain etc.

The Elettrica services are pretty much just a case of checking the brakes and updating the ECU's with the latest software. The motor is a brushless unit, and will likely outlive the Vespa, as will the lithium battery.

It's great from a consumer point of view, but it means a lot less work for dealers.
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:25:42 +0000

Veni, Vidi, Posti
GTS 300ABS, Buddy 125, Buddy Kick 125
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Location: Oregon City, OR
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
GTS 300ABS, Buddy 125, Buddy Kick 125
Joined: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 04:24:58 +0000
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Location: Oregon City, OR
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:25:42 +0000 linkquote
JakeM wrote:
The Elettrica services are pretty much just a case of checking the brakes and updating the ECU's with the latest software. The motor is a brushless unit, and will likely outlive the Vespa, as will the lithium battery.
This is an excellent point and a look at the future. I have been driving an EV for 8 years (one for 3 years, and another for 5). The only service I have needed is a couple of recalls, and one new set of tires. Some day I will need a brake job. That's it. A whole new kind of relationship between dealer and owner - and a heck of a lot less money changing hands between me and the local servicing dealer.
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:34:06 +0000

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Location: England
 
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:34:06 +0000 linkquote
Just realised that brakes last a lot longer on an electric vehicle as well - as the motor itself often takes over a lot of the braking in order to regen the battery, so even less money for the dealers!

Although ECU updates at Piaggio are currently through the dealer network, this could at some point be performed through a phone app.
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 17:55:02 +0000

Hooked
2018 Primavera 150, 2015 Sprint 150, 2018 GTS 300
Joined: Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:48:27 +0000
Posts: 276
Location: SoCal
 
Hooked
2018 Primavera 150, 2015 Sprint 150, 2018 GTS 300
Joined: Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:48:27 +0000
Posts: 276
Location: SoCal
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 17:55:02 +0000 linkquote
JakeM wrote:
The other problem dealers are finding is the push to electrification. On a normal Vespa, you have oil changes, valve adjustments, air filters, oil filters, a fuel system to maintain etc.

The Elettrica services are pretty much just a case of checking the brakes and updating the ECU's with the latest software. The motor is a brushless unit, and will likely outlive the Vespa, as will the lithium battery.

It's great from a consumer point of view, but it means a lot less work for dealers.
EVs = less jobs in manufacturing as well



Thu, 24 Nov 2022 06:16:16 +0000

Molto Verboso
2021 GTS 300 HPE +2013 GTS 300ie + 294 Polini
Joined: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 21:25:59 +0000
Posts: 1896
Location: Pretoria, South Africa
 
Molto Verboso
2021 GTS 300 HPE +2013 GTS 300ie + 294 Polini
Joined: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 21:25:59 +0000
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Location: Pretoria, South Africa
Thu, 24 Nov 2022 06:16:16 +0000 linkquote
My unfranchised Vespa dealer is now co-located in a showroom together with
a BMW franchised dealer, a coffee shop and a men's hairdresser (she's hot too!)
Diversification to encourage people to come in the door and hang out.

They also rent trailers for moving bikes.
   

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