Wed, 23 Nov 2022 21:41:55 +0000

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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 21:41:55 +0000 linkquote
Has anyone had first hand experience, or seen in reviews of the new 2023 GTS what sort of functionality the additional LCD will have when connected to the Mia app? Specifically regarding GPS. It seems in the middle of the screen there is space for either text or an arrow to provide some GPS/Navigation information, and the information out there seems to confirm it will have SOME functionality with the Vespa app, but not what functionality exactly? Not really interested in taking calls or listening to music while on the Vespa, but directions would be great. None of the reviews I've seen on YouTube really dive into that part of the new GTS for some reason.

Trying to decide between SuperTech or GTS Super, and the ability to get some degree of navigation information without a phone mounted to my Vespa is really appealing, even if it's just a one line text of "turn left in 0.5 mi" or whatever.
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 22:01:57 +0000

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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 22:01:57 +0000 linkquote
only the supertech has nav.
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 22:05:37 +0000

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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 22:05:37 +0000 linkquote
steelbytes wrote:
only the supertech has nav.
Thanks for replying - but just curious. Is this information based on any actual use of the 2023? I only ask because previously only SuperTech had app functionality too and now they all do. So while I'm not expecting the others to have native nav capabilities, wondering if it can relay directions text to the display via the Mia app using the phone GPS signal. And so far I haven't seen anything in videos or reviews that confirms this function definitely isn't possible.
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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 22:17:24 +0000 linkquote
SXM_beginings wrote:
Has anyone had first hand experience, or seen in reviews of the new 2023 GTS what sort of functionality the additional LCD will have when connected to the Mia app? Specifically regarding GPS. It seems in the middle of the screen there is space for either text or an arrow to provide some GPS/Navigation information, and the information out there seems to confirm it will have SOME functionality with the Vespa app, but not what functionality exactly? Not really interested in taking calls or listening to music while on the Vespa, but directions would be great. None of the reviews I've seen on YouTube really dive into that part of the new GTS for some reason.

Trying to decide between SuperTech or GTS Super, and the ability to get some degree of navigation information without a phone mounted to my Vespa is really appealing, even if it's just a one line text of "turn left in 0.5 mi" or whatever.
There are no navigation/GPS functionalities in non-SuperTech models. SuperSport includes Vespa MIA connectivity, optional on Classic and Super. As far es I know there are fixed symbols in the middle-area (e.g. kill-switch, side stand, etc.). In the part below there are two or three lines for text (Hello, Goodbye, Lock/Unlock, Settings, etc.). If it is possible to import/show further information such as navigation over an connected Smartphone, I do not know. With the Vespa MIA app in any case not.

Edit: Navigation functionality comes even on SuperTech from Smartphone GPS and Vespa-Mia App, so you're right, Display in SuperTech is only a "secondary screen" (mirror).
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 22:54:33 +0000

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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 22:54:33 +0000 linkquote
GermanGTSDriver wrote:
There are no navigation/GPS functionalities in non-SuperTech models. SuperSport includes Vespa MIA connectivity, optional on Classic and Super. As far es I know there are fixed symbols in the middle-area (e.g. kill-switch, side stand, etc.). In the part below there are two or three lines for text (Hello, Goodbye, Lock/Unlock, Settings, etc.). If it is possible to import/show further information such as navigation over an connected Smartphone, I do not know. With the Vespa MIA app in any case not.

Edit: Navigation functionality comes even on SuperTech from Smartphone GPS and Vespa-Mia App, so you're right, Display in SuperTech is only a "secondary screen" (mirror).
Got it. Thank you so much for your reply! I've been wondering what all that extra screen space space would be used for. Kind of a bummer that color selection/aesthetic design and built in navigation functionality have to be so closely connected. I'm wondering if that is something that will evolve in the future and trickle down to all trims eventually as the industry moves in that direct.
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 23:27:04 +0000

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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 23:27:04 +0000 linkquote
SXM_beginings wrote:
Thanks for replying - but just curious. Is this information based on any actual use of the 2023?
it's based on setting up the Vespa MIA app as a SuperSport and getting no nav options (or bluetooth nav packets) but when I set it up as SuperTech I get nav options (and bluetooth nav packets).


Note: I am not using a 2023 bike instead I use a emulator of piaggio's bluetooth system that I made to allow testing of my app and their app.
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 23:37:16 +0000

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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 23:37:16 +0000 linkquote
steelbytes wrote:
it's based on setting up the Vespa MIA app as a SuperSport and getting no nav options (or bluetooth nav packets) but when I set it up as SuperTech I get nav options (and bluetooth nav packets).


Note: I am not using a 2023 bike instead I use a emulator of piaggio's bluetooth system that I made to allow testing of my app and their app.
extra: I have not yet determined if info such as current music song name or phone call contact name is displayable on the SuperSport ...
Wed, 23 Nov 2022 23:46:13 +0000

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Wed, 23 Nov 2022 23:46:13 +0000 linkquote
SXM_beginings wrote:
Got it. Thank you so much for your reply! I've been wondering what all that extra screen space space would be used for. Kind of a bummer that color selection/aesthetic design and built in navigation functionality have to be so closely connected. I'm wondering if that is something that will evolve in the future and trickle down to all trims eventually as the industry moves in that direct.
I'm afraid that will last longer: In Europe, it is customary for a new car to be configured, which means bild-to-order (BTO). Therefore, it is common in Europe that new cars have a delivery time of 6-12 months after a binding order. Due to the current situation of Corona, logistics and Russia currently rather longer. Some manufacturers currently do not even give a binding purchase price. That means, who orders today, does not know what he will pay in 12, 13, 14, etc.... months...

This does not work for motorcycles, which are often enough a spontaneous purchase. That's why two-wheelers don't come configurable... There's Classic in 3 colors with gray seat, Super in 3 colors with black seat, SuperSport in 5 colors with decor, SuperTech with TFT display and navigation, etc. Eat or dieā€¦

See video in FortNine, gotta luv em for more ideas on motorcylce/scooter sales cycle...


I believe in two things/trends:
1. Hardware modules that can be retrofitted plug-and-play (e.g. Vespa MIA on Classic/Super) or the heated seat/grips and
2. Features that are unlocked for a subscription fee (i.e. hardware is installed in all vehicles, usage is possible by paying a subscription). Still available in cars (BMW for seat heating, map updates, Microsoft Exchange online integration, concierge service, etc.)
   

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