Fri, 25 Nov 2022 03:44:55 +0000

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Fri, 25 Nov 2022 03:44:55 +0000 linkquote
Man, it's hell to get old. Riding in cold weather used to be easy. Now I have to slowly wade into it -- physically and mentally. And shooting video instead of still pictures has added a new wrinkle -- GoPro batteries that fade fast in the cold.

Here's a reflection of my frustrations. Maybe you have the same...

https://youtu.be/MYsJBEyHL-w
Fri, 25 Nov 2022 13:31:43 +0000

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Fri, 25 Nov 2022 13:31:43 +0000 linkquote
VESPAsfw3 wrote:
Man, it's hell to get old. Riding in cold weather used to be easy. Now I have to slowly wade into it -- physically and mentally. And shooting video instead of still pictures has added a new wrinkle -- GoPro batteries that fade fast in the cold.

Here's a reflection of my frustrations. Maybe you have the same...

https://youtu.be/MYsJBEyHL-w
All good advice. I would add that bad things happen when you brake. I have seldom riden in Sub-Zero temperatures. When I did I took the approach that I would use the brakes as little as possible and modulate my speed accordingly.
Fri, 25 Nov 2022 13:37:32 +0000

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Fri, 25 Nov 2022 13:37:32 +0000 linkquote
It's a luxury to get old, a lot of people don't get there!
You sure have plenty of esperience to share!
Fri, 25 Nov 2022 13:55:30 +0000

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Fri, 25 Nov 2022 13:55:30 +0000 linkquote
The weather guessers had very chilly temperatures (for me) for this trip. I even went out and bought a new jacket with quilted liner. Of course they have now changed their minds. Instead of 60's and below the temp's will now be in the mid to upper 70's and I so wanted to be like Steve.
Fri, 25 Nov 2022 14:16:16 +0000

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Fri, 25 Nov 2022 14:16:16 +0000 linkquote
Mauro150LX wrote:
It's a luxury to get old, a lot of people don't get there!
You sure have plenty of esperience to share!
I'm grateful (and fortunate) to still be riding. A heart attack 7 years ago while in the ER would have ended me had I been out riding alone in the isolated places I enjoy. Each day now is a little brighter, despite the cold.

I really enjoy making videos. I'm struggling to be a story teller, but the puzzle of production is a good fit for my riding and imagination.
Fri, 25 Nov 2022 14:17:21 +0000

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Fri, 25 Nov 2022 14:17:21 +0000 linkquote
lostboater wrote:
The weather guessers had very chilly temperatures (for me) for this trip. I even went out and bought a new jacket with quilted liner. Of course they have now changed their minds. Instead of 60's and below the temp's will now be in the mid to upper 70's and I so wanted to be like Steve.
Hah. Be like me. That made me laugh. You are far above, beyond, and ahead of me as a Vespa adventurer. I'm just an enthusiastic amateur in comparison.
Fri, 25 Nov 2022 14:20:38 +0000

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Fri, 25 Nov 2022 14:20:38 +0000 linkquote
Max6200 wrote:
All good advice. I would add that bad things happen when you brake. I have seldom riden in Sub-Zero temperatures. When I did I took the approach that I would use the brakes as little as possible and modulate my speed accordingly.
Good thought Max. I have so thoroughly integrated a different approach to winter riding that the braking has become invisible. But you're right, the decline in available traction, particularly with non-winter tire compounds, requires a more gentle approach to braking. And as you say, a modulation in speed and riding in general.

It's like riding in the rain in terms of the road surface. Well, maybe not that bad, but in that direction.
Fri, 25 Nov 2022 15:13:56 +0000

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Fri, 25 Nov 2022 15:13:56 +0000 linkquote
Ah, I remember my youthful fantasies of what life was going to be like when I got this old and eased off from the daily grind. I think part of where I went wrong was assuming I'd have a 40 year old body. Then there's the detail that somehow "life" failed to get the memo that I was backing off....
Fri, 25 Nov 2022 15:18:37 +0000

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Fri, 25 Nov 2022 15:18:37 +0000 linkquote
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Hah. Be like me. That made me laugh. You are far above, beyond, and ahead of me as a Vespa adventurer. I'm just an enthusiastic amateur in comparison.
I was referring to "I can ride will below zero......". I can't even live in "well below 67".
Sat, 26 Nov 2022 13:55:28 +0000

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Sat, 26 Nov 2022 13:55:28 +0000 linkquote
lostboater wrote:
I was referring to "I can ride will below zero......". I can't even live in "well below 67".
I figured as much but I couldn't help but conflate things a bit!

Living where you do has made you cold intolerant. The warm seasons here has done the same to me and it takes some time to adjust. This morning it was 33F and for the first time this season I've noticed a physical and mental adjustment to the cold as I was able to sit comfortably outside in the garden and watch the sunrise.
Sat, 26 Nov 2022 13:56:20 +0000

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Sat, 26 Nov 2022 13:56:20 +0000 linkquote
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Ah, I remember my youthful fantasies of what life was going to be like when I got this old and eased off from the daily grind. I think part of where I went wrong was assuming I'd have a 40 year old body. Then there's the detail that somehow "life" failed to get the memo that I was backing off....
It's sad to realize there's a gulf between our plans and our bodies...
Sat, 26 Nov 2022 19:40:52 +0000

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Sat, 26 Nov 2022 19:40:52 +0000 linkquote
VESPAsfw3 wrote:
It's sad to realize there's a gulf between our plans and our bodies...
Had a friend who'd just turned 93. Upon wishing her a Happy Birthdat, she responded, "Ninety-three. Ninety-three. Now when I close my eyes...." That was 25 years ago. I've thought about that a bit since. :
Sat, 26 Nov 2022 22:29:41 +0000

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Sat, 26 Nov 2022 22:29:41 +0000 linkquote
just want to add that, if you ride in winter, use studded winter tires!!!
and allso, i dont use my front breake that much, i try to do most my breaking with the back breake, so yes...more planning in the driving and more safe speed!
and another thing is...black ice.....



Sun, 27 Nov 2022 04:06:20 +0000

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Sun, 27 Nov 2022 04:06:20 +0000 linkquote
I actually like winter (or wintah, as it's pronounced here) - but I don't seem to have a liking for riding the scooter once the temps dip into the low 60s (or 50s with the wind chill). I admire those of you who do, but I'd rather be in one of the cars...
Sun, 27 Nov 2022 13:36:14 +0000

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Sun, 27 Nov 2022 13:36:14 +0000 linkquote
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just want to add that, if you ride in winter, use studded winter tires!!!
and allso, i dont use my front breake that much, i try to do most my breaking with the back breake, so yes...more planning in the driving and more safe speed!
and another thing is...black ice.....
I purchased studs for my Heidenau SnoTex tires but never installed them. Those little carbide babies were expensive too. Ended up selling them on eBay because there just isn't enough continual ice and snow on the roads here to warrant them.

There is ice on the road though. I don't remember ever encountering the mythical black ice on the road but certainly have encountered in on untreated driveways, parking lots, and sidewalks. But it does beg the question of how to ride in winter. As you say, the front brake is not an option when there is snow on the road or other slippery stuff. But it still is fine on the dry winter roads.

My big challenge is often the day after a thaw when water is running everywhere. Like the photo below. I have to come to a complete stop, get off the scooter, investigate the ice, and then duck walk across the path that seems best. There are places where I find this a half dozen places in a mile.

Getting older and wiser now, I don't do this as often...


Glare ice on the road after a thaw.

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Sun, 27 Nov 2022 17:17:50 +0000 linkquote
yes, ice on the road when you see it, then you can adjust...it's worse when you get supprised round the next corner...
i have two complete setts of wheels, one for summer and one for winther.
i think it's ballsy to drive on summer tires on ice!
Mon, 28 Nov 2022 01:44:24 +0000

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Mon, 28 Nov 2022 01:44:24 +0000 linkquote
I spent 36 years living in Arizona and riding year round. This year we moved to northwestern Nevada. What a change. It's already snowed three times during the month of November. No big accumulation, but I've parked my PTW for a while. It's sad, but I'm looking forward to the start of ski season. I have an unlimited season pass at Diamond Peak ski resort at Lake Tahoe. They open for the season next Saturday. I'm looking forward to a full season of skiing rather than having to make the 800 mile drive from Phoenix once or twice a season.
Mon, 28 Nov 2022 06:43:45 +0000

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Mon, 28 Nov 2022 06:43:45 +0000 linkquote
VESPAsfw3 wrote:
... I'm struggling to be a story teller...
I'm sorry to hear it's a struggle. As a fan, I can tell you it appears effortless. For example:
VESPAsfw3 wrote:
It's sad to realize there's a gulf between our plans and our bodies.
Fri, 02 Dec 2022 19:00:44 +0000

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Fri, 02 Dec 2022 19:00:44 +0000 linkquote
Yellow300GTS wrote:
yes, ice on the road when you see it, then you can adjust...it's worse when you get supprised round the next corner...
i have two complete setts of wheels, one for summer and one for winther.
i think it's ballsy to drive on summer tires on ice!
Even the winter tires are pretty much worthless on ice. Aside from studs, the only thing you can do is slowly duck walk the scooter and hope your feet don't slide out.
Fri, 02 Dec 2022 19:02:39 +0000

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Fri, 02 Dec 2022 19:02:39 +0000 linkquote
ks7877 wrote:
I'm sorry to hear it's a struggle. As a fan, I can tell you it appears effortless. For example:
I suppose there are moments when the words flow effortlessly, but mostly it's a struggle. I'll leave it at that rather than shine a light on my many character flaws that probably contribute to the chaos...
Tue, 06 Dec 2022 00:44:36 +0000

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Tue, 06 Dec 2022 00:44:36 +0000 linkquote
VESPAsfw3 wrote:
I suppose there are moments when the words flow effortlessly, but mostly it's a struggle. I'll leave it at that rather than shine a light on my many character flaws that probably contribute to the chaos...
I going through a not so good stretch of my life. Your words somehow caught my attention.
   

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