My garage

Kyiv city centre

In the forest

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![]() '13 LML Star 200, '81 50 Special, '81 P 150 X, '87 PK 50 Nuova, '84 PK 50 S
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Wed, 08 Mar 2023 21:08:40 +0000
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Last photos before I disassembled P for respraying
My garage ![]() Kyiv city centre ![]() In the forest ![]() |
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Wed, 08 Mar 2023 21:31:23 +0000
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Drilled holes and fitted floor rails
![]() ![]() Engine is out ![]() ![]() Small but important thing - drain bolt with magnet ![]() Fit release spring on throttle tube ![]() In the workshop for welding and some straightening works. ![]()
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Thu, 09 Mar 2023 20:36:37 +0000
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After 4000 km clutch discs and plates on SIP Cosa 2 Sport clutch said goodbye.
I rebuild clutch with SIP CR80 kit and new brass parts too - here is little video ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Thu, 09 Mar 2023 20:57:04 +0000
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My precious. Bought this kit long ago but only now decide to put it in. And I was never suspect how much work it needed.
There was something wrong with cylinder or head. When I measured squish without any gaskets it was 2 mm. So I was need to sand head a lot to get 1.5mm squish with thinnest gasket. On the half way ![]() ![]() And clutch on it place ![]() |
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2007 Stella 225
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roland87 wrote: My precious. Bought this kit long ago but only now decide to put it in. And I was never suspect how much work it needed. There was something wrong with cylinder or head. When I measured squish without any gaskets it was 2 mm. So I was need to sand head a lot to get 1.5mm squish with thinnest gasket. On the half way ![]() ![]() And clutch on it place ![]() |
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Fri, 10 Mar 2023 07:14:30 +0000
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Christopher_55934 wrote: Is the crankshaft 57mm or 60mm stroke. To compare with FMP measurements on this video my was PBT 1.3 mm and edge on the head was 0.7 mm. |
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Fri, 10 Mar 2023 21:16:57 +0000
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Cylinder, carb and clutch cover torqued down on places. I also cleaned and greased brake cam.
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76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
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Fri, 10 Mar 2023 21:38:01 +0000
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roland87 wrote: It is Mazzucchelli 57/105 crankshaft.
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Fri, 10 Mar 2023 22:08:26 +0000
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chandlerman wrote: Such a fine top end deserves a 60mm crank, though! Now engine is in good shape and all what must was changed. On the other side there is only one crankshaft which completely satisfies my desires - don't machine cases and stay with rotary intake. But price of it is really high for me. So I will look how it goes as it is now and maybe just will matched ports. I need good reliable touring scooter and even with DR 177 it was good enough for my purposes. If I want to ruffian on the streets I have 50 Special with VMC GS 125cc for this. |
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2007 Stella 225
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roland87 wrote: It is Mazzucchelli 57/105 crankshaft. To compare with FMP measurements on this video my was PBT 1.3 mm and edge on the head was 0.7 mm. |
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Sat, 11 Mar 2023 06:07:11 +0000
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Christopher_55934 wrote: On the few motors I built, and several I've seen hear, you need a 60mm crankshaft if you don't want to have to remove material from some where. But in paper manual, online shops and even avotecnica.com indicated that the stroke is 57mm. Oh those Italians! |
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60mm with 105 conrod is normal for small blocks.
You can run a 60mm 110 conrod if you want to, but it's typically a P200 crank, so while the main bearings work just fine, it requires longer cylinder studs, a different little end bearing, and a spacer. You can really go crazy on port timings when you do that, though. Really nice, grunty geometry, too. I have run my super-tuned LML motor like that for close to ten years now and loved it. |
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Sun, 12 Mar 2023 19:40:53 +0000
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Mounted temperature sensor and fitted cylinder cowling. It needed some cutting near exhaust stub.
I was need to buy new cowling because my old original one is in bad condition. Pity, as I liked how it looked. ![]() ![]()
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Mon, 13 Mar 2023 21:39:30 +0000
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Take it from sandblasting to my Lambretta-mate for the painting.
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Mon, 13 Mar 2023 22:46:09 +0000
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So pretty & clean! Both the cylinder and the frame
Diggin the vent louvers on the cowl!
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Tue, 21 Mar 2023 19:15:30 +0000
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Hec In Omaha wrote: Can't wait to see it painted! Louvered cowls! Hec There is some disappointment for me - I could not choose the color I wanted. But now I'm still looking forward to it. Work in progress. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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roland87 wrote: Yes mate me too. There is some disappointment for me - I could not choose the color I wanted. But now I'm still looking forward to it. Work in progress. My project is also in the paint stages. Today I picked my colors at the paint shop. It's always fun picking colors. Good luck and keep us posted! Hec |
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Tue, 21 Mar 2023 19:43:27 +0000
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Hec In Omaha wrote: Looking good! My project is also in the paint stages. Today I picked my colors at the paint shop. It's always fun picking colors. Good luck and keep us posted! Hec |
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Thu, 23 Mar 2023 19:01:36 +0000
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Since I decided to abandon the handlebar indicators I also got another gear shift handle - without mounting for switch.
![]() Looks so-so. ![]() ![]() Still not good. ![]() Cat approved - much better now. ![]() ![]()
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2007 Stella 225
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roland87 wrote: Yes mate me too. There is some disappointment for me - I could not choose the color I wanted. But now I'm still looking forward to it. Work in progress. |
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Sat, 25 Mar 2023 20:35:50 +0000
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Christopher_55934 wrote: Are those louvers welded on or pressed directly into panel? |
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