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As a v1.0 effort, not too awful, but the thing's looks do absolutely nothing for me. Pig-heavy, although I suppose at this point it can't be helped much.
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Well too rich for my blood but take a look at the rate of acceleration on the speedometer. It might be ugly but no one is going to laugh at you when the light turns green.
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That is typically electric: accelerates as hell, but do that a few times in a row and you can start looking for a charging station.
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Too much $$ for me for something I could only ride to Wally World and back without it being a 2 day trip. And then I still could get as much as I do with my GTS. Too heavy. It does accel and sound quiet, but I need storage and range.
Need an Aptera scooter ROFL emoticon

I'm looking forward to the day an EV if practical in rural/suburban areas.
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Classically useless range.

Can't ride from one side of town to the other and back again.
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The 60 to 80 mile range mentioned is much more acceptable on a small, slow urban scooter.

One capable of running 75 mph will tempt a rider to actually ride somewhere.

A 9 hour charge on a 110 plug or a 2 hour charge on a fast charge, every 60 miles would get old quickly.

But that range on a 50 to 125cc equivalent scooter should work quite well, as a rider is much less likely to try to go far out of town.

That said, the CE-04 would still work for me 4 out of 5 days.

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God bless the first adopters but wake me when it,
"charges" as fast as my GTS,
goes as far as a tank of gas,
has good storage,
costs less
and looks as good.
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CaliforniaCruising wrote:
God bless the first adopters but wake me when it,
"charges" as fast as my GTS,
goes as far as a tank of gas,
has good storage,
costs less
and looks as good.
Trouble is, the greater the battery, the heavier the bike - which often ruins the experience. I think the future is more in fast charging, rather than range. I'd want something lighter that can add a decent charge in a 10-15 minute stop.

I much prefer the look and style of the BMW CE-02, although it's only a concept at this stage, so they still need to add mud guards / fenders etc.
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Not impressed by either of them. I understand the idea of trying to find an EV alternative, but those looks... Facepalm emoticon

(And regarding fast acceleration: if I wanted to be fast, I wouldn't ride a Vespa. I'd buy a crotch rocket instead. I ride the scooter to get my mind to rest, instead of trying to outpace the competition.)


I hope to ride my GTS until the very last drop of fuel has been sold!
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Mopmop wrote:
Not impressed by either of them. I understand the idea of trying to find an EV alternative, but those looks... Facepalm emoticon
There are a LOT of electric bike being ridden in my beach-town. And there are a LOT of EV bikes that look like the CE-02, especially popular with younger people. I don't care for the aesthetics either but the problem is you're just too old to appreciate the look.😎

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Miguel wrote:
There are a LOT of electric bike being ridden in my beach-town. And there are a LOT of EV bikes that look like the CE-02, especially popular with younger people. I don't care for the aesthetics either but the problem is you're just too old to appreciate the look.😎

Miguel
Price is universal though
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JakeM wrote:
I think the future is more in fast charging, rather than range.
Not many fast chargers in the middle of the Australian outback
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Not many fast chargers in the middle of the Australian outback
The bike is clearly aimed at urban commuters, not long distance adventurers, I'm guessing.

Miguel
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Just bought one....kinda fascinated by electric propulsion...keeping my two Vespa 300s, too, of course.
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