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For the last couple of days, I'm having to select topics or latest replies twice. The first time I try, I'm getting "Safari Cannot Connect to the Server".

I hit my back button, and the MV home screen comes back. Then, when I select the same Topic or Latest Reply, it goes straight to the post. Started yesterday. Weird.

Mac OS Ventura 13.1, Mac Mini M1, Safari 16.2.

p.s., happened when I tried to Submit this note the first time, too.
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That sounds like a problem I sometimes have with my WiFi. I have to reset the modem/router, i.e. unplug it, wait a moment, then plug it back in.
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I'm 98% certain that's a problem with your network connection. While MV did go down briefly a couple of days ago, the error message was about not being able to connect to the database. Your error message indicates that your browser can't find the MV server at all. And the MV server has been running continuously for several weeks.
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jess wrote:
I'm 98% certain that's a problem with your network connection. While MV did go down briefly a couple of days ago, the error message was about not being able to connect to the database. Your error message indicates that your browser can't find the MV server at all. And the MV server has been running continuously for several weeks.
Beats me. Happened three times while I was trying to respond. Only happens with MV and Safari. Every other site is fine with Safari. Firefox is fine with everybody. Weird. Here's a screenshot of the error.
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Sounds like a problem with DNS at your end. Have you enabled DoH?
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Der Blechfahrer wrote:
Sounds like a problem with DNS at your end. Have you enabled DoH?

Sounds like a DNS error however that does not explain FF working. It could be a proxy issue but not sure why/how that would be turned on by a home user. But yeah worth checking the advanced properties of the connection to ensure no boxes are ticked. Still worth overriding the DNS settings and putting good ole' 8.8.8.8 in the DNS server field and just for fun toss 208.67.222.222 in there too.

Plus we always like to say have you rebooted the router/modem? FWIW I have seen this issue and it's always been a flaky connection. We deal with it very often with users on corporate VPN connections on macOS. It has to do with how the OS manages traffic over a secure tunnel in that all traffic has to flow through it. I could drone on forever about this crap... The best test to really check it out is to try tethering over LTE thus eliminating your home connection. Apple has been doubling down on security while at the same time making their desktop/noteboook OS look like more and more like a glorified iOS. You should have seen the look on my face the first time I went into sys prefs on Ventura...
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There's also 8.8.4.4 for Google, IIRC.
And Cloudflare has 9.9.9.9

Who is behind the .222 IP?
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There's also 8.8.4.4 for Google, IIRC.
And Cloudflare has 9.9.9.9

Who is behind the .222 IP?
OpenDNS which is Cisco . If you are going to override public DNS settings I figure it's best to use 2 different services. TBH I don't think I've ever seen either service go down over the decades.
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It happened to me a couple times when I was trying to answer (forgetful me) to a thread that I had to been ejected from.. I hit the answer button and poof my connection just went South. I restarted my cell phone and I was fine. It wasn't Safari though.
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I've decided it's something to do with Safari that's recent. The progress bar hesitates midway for several seconds on most websites where it used to be instantaneous, like Firefox is now.

The Home Depot and Lowe's websites won't run product search queries on Safari on the desktop, iPad, or iPhone. They time out with too many redirects.

Other oddball glitches are occurring, as well.

I've sent an inquiry to Apple, for all the good that will do. At some point, Apple will probably issue an update and all will magically be well again.

Apple used to run a well integrated ecosystem, but I guess they're mostly an iPhone company now. Sigh.

Thanks to all for your responses.
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I run Safari exclusively on my MacBook Air M1 using duckduckgo search engine, all with the latest updates. I've not experienced any problems but everyone's connection and configuration is different.

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Before anyone says it: yes, I did just reboot the server, and yes, the server was unavailable for approximately one minute.
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25BIKEZ wrote:
I've decided it's something to do with Safari that's recent. The progress bar hesitates midway for several seconds on most websites where it used to be instantaneous, like Firefox is now.

The Home Depot and Lowe's websites won't run product search queries on Safari on the desktop, iPad, or iPhone. They time out with too many redirects.
Honestly, I think you have some larger issue going on. I use Safari exclusively, and haven't run into any of the issues you are reporting. I also just did a product search on HomeDepot, just to check. No issues at all.

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