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I'm contemplating adding a Liberty to keep my GTS company in the garage.

Flyscreen is too short and the tall screens are about 6"+ (400mm) above my eyes. My dealer has these two mounted in the showroom for me to try but nothing midsize.

Thanks for any reference or suggestions.
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Clampett,

I would think you could google FACO or Givi and find a solution.
Also, many on this forum have added a clip on to the top of a
lower windscreen.

I have the Medium Vespa screen on my GTS300 and the stock
windscreen on my 2022 Kymco AK550. The Kymco is low
but acceptable - the Vespa Medium is perfect.

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Thanky Bob. I did the search. I also called Scooter West.
Seems the Vespa GTS screen and hardware work on the Liberty BUT looks rather tacky as the GTS headlight is round vs the squarish top of the Liberty. I was hoping some made/sold one that I could order, even across the pond, ready to mount.
It appears my option(hoping to be shown my error) is only to get the large and whittle it a few inches.
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I would also refrain from mounting a windshield that is suitable for another model. This looks visually in the best case little pretty...

If the small windshield is too small and the large too large, you have two options: Make the small higher with an attached wind deflector (as recommended by Bob) or shorten the large windshield:
How To: Cut Down a Windscreen
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Malossi has a tinted medium size windshield for the Liberty, and Faco has a couple that are 27 inches high, from the bottom of the windshield.
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While searching for a midsize screen, Scooterwest told me that a GTS screen fits the Liberty but that the headlight is round. The Liberty screens taper inward toward the bottom.
So, I took the fly screen off the GTS to do a test fit.
Had a lot of glare from the headlight at night as oldscoot said in his post.
I added some black edge molding which reduced it considerably, but didn't completely eliminate it. Here is the final result/mount of the test fit.
I've ordered a GTS midsize screen based on this result.
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While searching for a midsize screen, Scooterwest told me that a GTS screen fits the Liberty but that the headlight is round. The Liberty screens taper inward toward the bottom.
So, I took the fly screen off the GTS to do a test fit.
Had a lot of glare from the headlight at night as oldscoot said in his post.
I added some black edge molding which reduced it considerably, but didn't completely eliminate it. Here is the final result/mount of the test fit.
I've ordered a GTS midsize screen based on this result.
I'm in the same situation with my 150S. I'm looking forward to pics of your installation.
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I'm in the same situation with my 150S. I'm looking forward to pics of your installation.
FYI, Piaggio branded sunscreens have shorter bolts that go into the compression fitting. I knew this so was ready. On the Liberty the nut will go into the hole when just over half tightened. I used pliers once they were past the handlebar covers to finish tightening. Some mounting hardware like the Faco, has long bolts that tighten with Allen Key which makes it simpler.
I'll try to get pics to better explain this.
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Faco Medium windscreen and closeup of the bolt fitting into the expansion plug.
The Faco mounting is much easier to mount and adjust than OEM.
Edit: This is close, but I still need 3.5 more inches height to be perfect for myself. I'm now considering the Givi Airflow Blade instead of the little deflector at the top. No sure what I'll do yet.
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That looks pretty good. Wonder if a Faco Twin Screen would fit?
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Pretty sure it will fit, but I'm guessing it will be fugly.
I plan to try it since I have one on the GTS.
The Liberty is petite compared to the GTS and just looking at them side/side, I'm thinking no go. But I'll attempt it just to make sure.
I can see some of the purist already rolling their eyes....
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I've ordered a generic clamp on deflector from Amazon as an interim solution. I'll post an update once it's installed and I ride with it a bit.

I do like the looks of that Faco Mid, though.
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Tinkering a bit more. The windscreen was tilted back and I thought 'Why not straighten it up?' So I curved the mounting post a little. Put the bend even with the headlight (bent top to the right as shown in the photo)
ALWAYS check the turning of the handlebars after mounting the Faco(before riding) because the expansion bolts will hit the leg shield if not pushed all the way back (Thank you Robot). Rubber mallet or the wooden end of a carpenter hammer works. Can hear the difference bumping it when it is fully seated.
Took it for a ride. Put the air stream up from my neck to the brow of my helmet. Even though it is daylight, I could still see the headlight on the outer edges of the screen. I put auto door edging around the bottom edge around the headlight. Reduced it about 80%, and doesn't glow as bright as before.

I also ordered the extension but not sure if it is needed now. I'll also experiment with it. This midsize screen seems to fit well and looks better (to me) than the tall screen towering up high.
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I have the Givi tall screen on my Liberty and I love it.

I also have an older BV 250 that came stock with what I think is a mid-height wind screen and it was terrible, the height of the wind screen seemed to increase the wind buffeting and noise.

I took the windscreen off of that scooter and it was much better.

My opinion is that the tall screen actually does some good, the fly screen is just for looks, and the mid screen just creates turbulence and makes it worse.

Of course I haven't tried the mid level screen on the liberty, it was another scooter that was close though?
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How tall are you?
Where does the Givi come up to for you? (Chin, eyes, above your head?) Maybe a photo if possible for more context.
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I have the Givi tall screen on my Liberty and I love it.

I also have an older BV 250 that came stock with what I think is a mid-height wind screen and it was terrible, the height of the wind screen seemed to increase the wind buffeting and noise.

I took the windscreen off of that scooter and it was much better.

My opinion is that the tall screen actually does some good, the fly screen is just for looks, and the mid screen just creates turbulence and makes it worse.

Of course I haven't tried the mid level screen on the liberty, it was another scooter that was close though?
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I am 5'-10" and the tall windscreen comes right at my lips or the bottom of my nose when I am sitting straight up as tall as I can.

I find that when I am riding I am leaning forward slightly and spine curved so it is at my eyes.

I will work on getting someone to take a picture of it with me sitting behind it for reference.
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Thanky. I am tempted to try it now. Most tall screens are really tall.
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I am 5'-10" and the tall windscreen comes right at my lips or the bottom of my nose when I am sitting straight up as tall as I can.

I contacted AF1 in Tx for the measurements and they said they didn't know but would let me know around April when their new stock comes in.
Could you measure from the top of the cutout for the headlight to the top of the shield and let me know the actual height?
Thank you for your replies!!!!
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At 6'3"+...the buffering from the tall stock screen on my Suzuki Burgman was...horrendous !
Like getting headbutted.
I went to a short "sport" screen from Ermax (FR) and loved the ride. Wind on my chest much less distracting.
Still enjoy that.....but your screen tests on our Liberty150i is very interesting.

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At 6'3"+...the buffering from the tall stock screen on my Suzuki Burgman was...horrendous !
Like getting headbutted.
I went to a short "sport" screen from Ermax (FR) and loved the ride. Wind on my chest much less distracting.
Still enjoy that.....but your screen tests on our Liberty150i is very interesting.

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Thanky. Over the years, as an old fart, I've tried many variations from stock bikes. You have been riding a while also. Something as simple as the angle of the shield can make the difference between a pleasant ride and making you hate the ride. Or the shield curvature on one bike doesn't work with the aerodynamics of another bike. I've had custom screens made back when I rode Gold Wings, but it's more difficult to get custom screens for bikes less popular.
I've enjoyed your photos of your morning rides and your posts. While they aren't responsible for my purchasing the Liberty, they sure did influence me to research it. Thanks for those post because the decision was a good one.
I'm sure others have experimented as well. But I'm hoping that this little thread will help someone else avoid spending as much money/time thus avoiding as much of a headache with the experiments.
I've had people that do not post on MV to assist letting me ride their scoots and selling me as good discount the one shield they couldn't get to work.
If I get a solution, good. If this thread helps someone else get a solution, better.
I think I would like a Givi Airflow. I can find a blade but no mounting hardware at the moment. Maybe drill and ruin another shield eh?
But just because it worked on my other scoots doesn't mean it will work on the Liberty. It looks better than the Faco Twin (to me).
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In lieu of a bigger windscreen, I added a $25 deflector to try out.

The bracket is pretty solid, and is quick release adjustable for height and angle, but the deflector part is a just lightweight piece of acrylic which should be easy to reshape.

The way the deflector attaches to the bracket lends itself to swapping out the piece of acrylic with something a little bigger.

I'll report back after running it up to speed a few times, but the next few days promise cold/freezing precip.
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I contacted AF1 in Tx for the measurements and they said they didn't know but would let me know around April when their new stock comes in.
Could you measure from the top of the cutout for the headlight to the top of the shield and let me know the actual height?
Thank you for your replies!!!!
I measured from the top of the cutout for the headlight to the top of the windscreen is 20 inches.
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I measured from the top of the cutout for the headlight to the top of the windscreen is 20 inches.
Thank you kind sir. I bit taller than I was hoping but the GTS mid size was too short (for me). I'll give it a try. After all, it only my wife's money. Facepalm emoticon
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It does look tall in the pictures, still need to get someone to take a picture with me on it for perspective.

It does not seem that tall when riding and it is awesome on that scooter it really does a good job of protecting form wind buffeting. It is also frequently fairly windy here in Reno. Usually picks up most afternoons.
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Update on the wind deflector.

I rode around today for an hour, city streets at 35 mph and rural highways up to 65mph (indicated-don't have my phone mount yet for a true GPS test), and the deflector creates a dead space from eye level to waist, and pushes the wind out to hit my outer shoulders.

Still some buffeting at the top of my helmet, and not noticeably quieter, but a lot less pressure on my chest and head.

I played with the angle a bit while at steady speeds, and found the near vertical position to have the greatest effect.

I had to snug up the mounting and adjustment screws a bit once I got home to keep the wind at highway speeds from tilting it back.
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I did get the tall Givi screen. Tried it for a few days. It was nice except for having to look through it.
So, went to Lowes and got some sand paper, a new cutting wheel for my Dremel, and painters tape.
Measured 2" down from top and moved the measuring tape to each side letting the tape hang straight down. Made my marks as a series of dots every 1/4".
Cut it off, used an angle grinder to tidy up the 2 corners. Used 60 grit block to smooth it out, then 220 grit to polish it up. Now the top of the screen is right at my nose and I can look over it. No buffeting, a slight increase air to my shoulders, still quiet, and it is right where I wanted and was hoping the medium would be.

Another note about the Givi: When mounted with the rubber caps on top of the goal posts, the screen is too low and the bottom edges of the screen rub on the leg shield.
I removed the rubber caps and moved the sliders to the very top of the goal posts and no more rubbing on the leg shield. Also, the expansion joints on both sides required extra work to get them to seat inside the mounting tube where the OEM and Faco both just worked out of the box by just putting a bit of pressure on them.

Anyhoo, this is the end of my search for the perfect windscreen. Thanks to others who added their experience and photos.
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I removed the rubber caps and moved the sliders to the very top of the goal posts and no more rubbing on the leg shield. Also, the expansion joints on both sides required extra work to get them to seat inside the mounting tube where the OEM and Faco both just worked out of the box by just putting a bit of pressure on them.
I'm wondering by not having the expansion joints seated as far as possible into the mounting tubes be the cause of rubbing on the leg shield?
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I'm wondering by not having the expansion joints seated as far as possible into the mounting tubes be the cause of rubbing on the leg shield?
Could be possible. I dismantled the headlight covers the first time to remove them as they were spinning freely and tightening or not disengaging so I could remove. There was some sort of coating on the threads that kept them from tightening. So I threaded them all the way, removed the tapered nut, reassembled the headlight cover then reinserted the goal posts. I used a rubber mallet (per Robots video) to reseat them. Felt and sounded solid. But there is still the possibility they're not seated correctly. It wouldn't be the first time I've thought I did something correct, only find I didn't.
The longer a project takes, the more apt I am to make those mistakes.
Now that I've typed this response, I'm wondering if I got them tight enough and maybe they slid back down some. Time to go back to the garage!!!!!!
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I'm wondering by not having the expansion joints seated as far as possible into the mounting tubes be the cause of rubbing on the leg shield?
You were right! I check first by grabbing the goalpost and pushing to the side and they moved. Easily loosened the bolts which meant they weren't tight. So backed off about 3/4 turn, tapped with rubber mallet(again) and they went in about 1/4" which made a big difference on the clearance.

That means I didn't tighten them up like I thought I had during install. Thank you sir for calling me out on that. Otherwise I would have thought it wasn't my fault if they eventually fell out on the road.
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You were right! I check first by grabbing the goalpost and pushing to the side and they moved. Easily loosened the bolts which meant they weren't tight. So backed off about 3/4 turn, tapped with rubber mallet(again) and they went in about 1/4" which made a big difference on the clearance.

That means I didn't tighten them up like I thought I had during install. Thank you sir for calling me out on that. Otherwise I would have thought it wasn't my fault if they eventually fell out on the road.
Fantastic! So you can put the rubber caps on top of the goal posts now too?
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My goodness that deflector gizmo is an awkward looking thing.
And any kind of a screen that puts one more layer of water-beaded plastic between me and the road ahead on my dark and wet rides....is a no-go.
I understand that few others ride every day in the dark, as I do....so screens are desirable for them.
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My goodness that deflector gizmo is an awkward looking thing.
And any kind of a screen that puts one more layer of water-beaded plastic between me and the road ahead on my dark and wet rides....is a no-go.
I understand that few others ride every day in the dark, as I do....so screens are desirable for them.
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Yep, I retired, so I don't have to ride in the early morning dark anymore. I did it for 50 years.
Well, awkward is like beauty Razz emoticon
And I'm starting another thread I'm hoping you can help me with......
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