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The trio of Super Techs. The blue is very dark, almost a midnight blue. Lots of Purple in it which doesn't surprise me, the light silver supertech is very very purple in the daylight too. The green accents look playful with the dark blue color, totally makes sense. I promised to add more pics in the sun, more to come but for now this is what I have.

After having used the Navigation through the display and Vespa Mia several times, I can really say it is helpful though can be tricky getting used to as it bounces from Yards to Miles (but not feet). Still nice to have it working on the display when you need it. The interesting thing you don't know from first use without the manual is that you have to activate the Navigation display (and toggle between the normal and the map) by pressing and holding the joystick to the right, until it switches over (about 5 seconds) then let go. If you have audio paired to your helmet, it works very well and is not distracting. The nav took me within about 10 feet of my destination without much effort, which was nice!

The Super Tech definitely makes sense of the "tech" when you use it as designed Scooter emoticon Scooter emoticon Scooter emoticon Scooter emoticon Scooter emoticon
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Rob, nice little review. To be honest, we've heard more than a few negs over that Mia app. Now that you have played with it a bit, do you think it's something you would use regularly, or is it more work than it's worth? No right or wrong answer... just looking for educated user feedback. T Scooter emoticon
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VMS SAN DIEGO wrote:
Rob, nice little review. To be honest, we've heard more than a few negs over that Mia app. Now that you have played with it a bit, do you think it's something you would use regularly, or is it more work than it's worth? No right or wrong answer... just looking for educated user feedback. T Scooter emoticon
I've had my supertech since late 2019 and the mia app sucked so much that I made my own app
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Yes... we've heard pretty much the same thing. So how does your app function and interface?
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VMS SAN DIEGO wrote:
Yes... we've heard pretty much the same thing. So how does your app function and interface?

Although I originally made my app to monitor¹ the official app I was able to eventually fully² implement piaggio's bluetooth protocol.
For the navigation part I didn't integrate a nav system instead I monitor google maps and relay it's directions to the tft.
For the rest of what it does it's easiest to suggest playing with it (it's on the google play store - see the link in my MV signature)

PS. Android only.

¹ This is where it got the Snoop part of it's name
² fully on the original supertech / pmp2 era scoots, not yet fully tested on the pmp3 / 2023 scoots - looking for testers.
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VMS SAN DIEGO wrote:
Rob, nice little review. To be honest, we've heard more than a few negs over that Mia app. Now that you have played with it a bit, do you think it's something you would use regularly, or is it more work than it's worth? No right or wrong answer... just looking for educated user feedback. T Scooter emoticon
Last year, when we had the 22 super tech models, the Vespa app was just pretty much garbage. The navigation was hard to use on the Vespa itself. It's changed for the 23 model year and FOR THE BETTER!!

The Vespa App itself makes it fairly easy to propagate the navigation data to the screen, you simply enter the address in the navigator and once you hit go, the data is now being shared with the Super Tech display. If it doesn't pop up, you hold the joy stick to the right until it does pop up, the display will switch from regular data to the nav screen. You switch back to the regular display the same way, holding that joystick to the right. <<< This is important, because if you don't read the manual, you have real way to know how to switch back and forth >>>

The Nav has helped me a few times, versus having to mount my phone, which I do not want to do as it would be too distracting and info overload for me. I agree with Robot, the Maps on the phones are better, but the simplicity of having it in the head unit display is handy and not at all info overload.

The tricky part is when you have three super techs (I know, not really a problem ROFL emoticon ) --- in this situation, you can keep all three (or any vespa with bluetooth) paired to your phone, but in terms of using the nav, you would have to delete the last paired Vespa (the one that has the bluetooth bubble on the vehicle display, under vehicles, in the app). Then you add the one you want to use the Nav on, it takes all of 10 seconds so it's not really a big deal at all. Basically, the limitations of this app are that it only has map support for one Super Tech.

Vespa probably figures most people only have one, so I doubt they will make changes to the app, though I have suggested it, I doubt my suggestion gets any traction at Piaggio. It's not hard to add and connect the Vespa you are currently using.

One really cool thing about the App is that it has live data flowing to it, I thought it was interesting to see the RPM's and the coolant temperature, info you can't get on the display but you can get through the app. Pretty cool stuff.

So in short, the app was total shit before but has usefulness now and they've streamlined the way that the Vespas pair now, which is far far better than before, so yes, with the new Vespa line-up, the App is starting to shine a bit more. It's graduated a bit, just like the GTS did!
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The app only shows model year 22, even though these are 23 models. It all works just fine.
The app only shows model year 22, even though these are 23 models. It all works just fine.
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The app (and also some Piaggio documents) incorrectly name the 23 facelift as "MY22".
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RobaLatte wrote:
Last year, when we had the 22 super tech models,
For most MVers we would assume they're meaning the 2022 year model. But with you...
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GermanGTSDriver wrote:
The app (and also some Piaggio documents) incorrectly name the 23 facelift as "MY22".
is that actually incorrect? maybe it is correct as it was released in 2022 ...
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SteelBytes wrote:
is that actually incorrect? maybe it is correct as it was released in 2022 ...
I think you're quite correct also, the important thing is that it works!
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RobaLatte wrote:
I think you're quite correct also, the important thing is that it works!
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if we could only convince Robot that there is no such thing as an HPE2. Just think about it - there is no new version of the HPE engine so you can't just append a 2 and what would the GTS 125 be called? Facepalm emoticon
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if we could only convince Robot that there is no such thing as an HPE2. Just think about it - there is no new version of the HPE engine so you can't just append a 2 and what would the GTS 125 be called? Facepalm emoticon
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