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Tue, 21 Mar 2023 19:54:45 +0000 quote
For the taillamp I'm swapping in a euro V50 special light.







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Tue, 21 Mar 2023 19:58:57 +0000

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Tue, 21 Mar 2023 19:58:57 +0000 quote
I'm also adding a LED lighted plate frame from Custom Dynamics. It includes integrated tail, brake, indicators, and plate frame lights.






holey moley. had to drill 2 extra holes. Most of those were there already LOL


Fits great, just above the rear bumper. 4 thick rubber washers between led frame and body.

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Tue, 21 Mar 2023 20:01:48 +0000

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Tue, 21 Mar 2023 20:01:48 +0000 quote
I ran all new wiring for the taillight and plate frame. New sheathing & new wires which will connect to the original harness under the tank.




these 2 leads will connect to the original harness tail/brake/indicators.


ready for termination

Tue, 21 Mar 2023 20:32:35 +0000

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Tue, 21 Mar 2023 20:32:35 +0000 quote
The one on the left is my vote

Im curious to see how the LED bulb works out...
Tue, 21 Mar 2023 22:23:23 +0000

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Tue, 21 Mar 2023 22:23:23 +0000 quote
GeekLion wrote:
Which headlight?.... PX w/ clear lens, or COSA w/ fluted. Both take an H4 bulb.
Cosa
Wed, 22 Mar 2023 01:47:38 +0000

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Wed, 22 Mar 2023 01:47:38 +0000 quote
So fresh for the rally!
We're all looking forward to seeing it live at Madonna inn pregame.

(I ordered those same bar end lights today!)
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Wed, 22 Mar 2023 05:19:38 +0000

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Wed, 22 Mar 2023 05:19:38 +0000 quote
charlieman22 wrote:
So fresh for the rally!
We're all looking forward to seeing it live at Madonna inn pregame.

(I ordered those same bar end lights today!)
Yeah, so... that is a bummer. I just this week had to change my plans, due to a family commitment. I wavered a bit before, even discussed this with qascooter...then last week worked out the details, booked a room and finalized the trip. Then something came up... its not a bad thing though, my daughter has one of her artworks in a show at the local arts center, this weekend. It's her first public showing, along with other students from her school; and its very important to her and I as well. We were all notified of the opening date and time so last minute....we literally found out Monday morning.... So I made that choice instead of the rally. I'll have to catch you all down the road a bit.
Wed, 22 Mar 2023 05:24:25 +0000

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Wed, 22 Mar 2023 05:24:25 +0000 quote
Well - I suppose its just as well.
Couldn't have you showing up with your bike all pimped out like that taking all the attention.

We'll miss you.
Was looking forward to a beer.
Let's make sure to get one another time.

Scoot looks great.
So many nice details.
Grips and handles look awesome - even if you can't break or release the clutch.
Clutches are for pussies anyway - that's what the throttle is for.

Congrats on the art show.
Very cool.
We'll all look forward to catching up at the next event.
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Wed, 22 Mar 2023 05:30:42 +0000

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Wed, 22 Mar 2023 05:30:42 +0000 quote
charlieman22 wrote:
Well - I suppose its just as well.
Couldn't have you showing up with your bike all pimped out like that taking all the attention.

We'll miss you.
Was looking forward to a beer.
Let's make sure to get one another time.

Scoot looks great.
So many nice details.
Grips and handles look awesome - even if you can't break or release the clutch.
Clutches are for pussies anyway - that's what the throttle is for.

Congrats on the art show.
Very cool.
We'll all look forward to catching up at the next event.
Yes yes, all the same thoughts and more! Will definitley miss all you MV guys! Will be one to remember for sure! We will grab that beer and burn some smoke at another time.

Meanwhile, the work continues up here in the Pacific Northwest....
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Wed, 22 Mar 2023 06:10:38 +0000

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Wed, 22 Mar 2023 06:10:38 +0000 quote
More parts arrived in the mail today. First is this LED taillamp insert for the V50 light. It looks and feels well made. Time will be the real test. I'll report back on the brightness after wiring. On that note....

I need to find and order the correct small male connector for this new light. It's some type of mini-pin connector, that I am not familar with. The mating piece was not included in the package, and the wire connection point for the brake light is different than shown on the website. See the last photo below










Fits in place of the festoon bulb for the tail light. Brake light connection is the black square pin connector top left.


This is the 2x pin connector that I need. Outside dimensions of connector on board: 7.2mm x 12.5mm


This photo from SIP site shows the LED board with wire lead. I had planned to replace the pin connector with quick disconnect; but that will no longer work

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Wed, 22 Mar 2023 07:06:59 +0000

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Wed, 22 Mar 2023 07:06:59 +0000 quote
All this talk of levers that dont work has me looking at other options. I am a huge fan of dogleg levers, however my chosen pair mayjustmaybe be a bit on the extreme end. Road test will tell.

Here are some other CNC levers I found at the 2 Deutsch vendors:


BGM
https://www.scooter-center.com/en/brake-and-clutch-lever-set-bgm-pro-cnc-disc-brake-grimeca-vespa-px-1998-2003-lml-star-stella-matt-black-bgm4551kt

SIP
https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/sport-lever-set-sip-left-right-clutch-brake-bmc-grimeca_J6312PGRMO

GRAND SPORT
https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/sport-lever-clutch-grand-sport-left_281030SW

MG BIKETEC - ADJUSTABLE
https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/sport-lever-set-mg-biketec-clutch-brake-bmc-hengtong-left-right_MG7534LR


BGM LEVERS


BGM LEVERS


SIP LEVERS


SIP LEVERS


GRAND SPORT LEVERS


MG BIKETEC adjustable levers


MG BIKETEC adjustable levers

Wed, 22 Mar 2023 09:53:04 +0000

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Wed, 22 Mar 2023 09:53:04 +0000 quote
GeekLion wrote:
More parts arrived in the mail today. First is this LED taillamp insert for the V50 light. It looks and feels well made. Time will be the real test. I'll report back on the brightness after wiring. On that note....

I need to find and order the correct small male connector for this new light. It's some type of mini-pin connector, that I am not familar with. The mating piece was not included in the package, and the wire connection point for the brake light is different than shown on the website. See the last photo below
I have same on my Special. It was pain to fit it right on the original mount. Also brake light is works poorly - not much brighter than running light. I have suitable light switch that was recommended by PEV Torino and I also have VAPE AC ignition so there is no lack of power supply.
I wonder how your's one will work. I tried SIP and Grand Sport levers and both of them is really nice. I have SIP on my LML.
I also tried this ones and really liked the quick cable adjust option.

But then I tried this levers and find it much more comfortable than others. So I left one pair on my Special and ordered another ones for my P.
I also think that MG Biketec levers can have same problem as levers that you got from Aliexpress(PM Tuning).
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Wed, 22 Mar 2023 10:31:43 +0000 quote
The light I can already tell is going to be a pain to fit.... I'll see how it goes, and I already have a planB in the works.

I do like those adjustable levers with the wheel for the cable side. They are comfortable. I'm running a hydraulic brake and master cylinder, so that lever would be different. I would prefer that the levers match in shape
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Wed, 22 Mar 2023 14:14:44 +0000 quote
Super Dad!
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Wed, 22 Mar 2023 14:34:04 +0000 quote
Man you are making crazy fast progress. Looks great.

Can't argue with your choice of priorities... good on ya!
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Wed, 22 Mar 2023 18:08:15 +0000 quote
I look at it like the scoot is in the shop for spring maintenance. Gotta bust it out and get it back on the road. The weather is changing while I'm turning wrenches. Will be perfect timing. Cosmetic changes and other stuff like that can wait. Somethings are just easier and better done while everything is already broken down. Almost there.
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Fri, 24 Mar 2023 13:13:56 +0000 quote
GeekLion wrote:
More parts arrived in the mail today. First is this LED taillamp insert for the V50 light. It looks and feels well made. Time will be the real test. I'll report back on the brightness after wiring. On that note....

I need to find and order the correct small male connector for this new light. It's some type of mini-pin connector, that I am not familar with. The mating piece was not included in the package, and the wire connection point for the brake light is different than shown on the website. See the last photo below
If it were mine, I would remove that black plastic shell, leave the pins, looks like it's glued to board. That cover will pull off. You could also cut that plastic with a sharp pair of cutters to get it out of the way. Solder wires directly to those pins and cover with heat shrink tubing.

Is that connector surface mounted with pins soldered at bottom of connector? You could literally solder wires to pins or solder pads. Wouldn't waste time looking for that connector etc.

If you do solder to board, use some adhesive such as silicone caulk and adhere wires to board. Provide strain relief for solder connections so wires are constantly flexing on board and break solder joint or wiring.





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Christopher_55934 wrote:
If it were mine, I would removed that black plastic shell, leave the pins, looks like it's glued to board. That cover will pull off. You could also cut that plastic with a sharp pair of cutters to get it out of the way. Solder wires directly to those pins and cover with heat shrink tubing.

Is that connector surface mounted with pins soldered at bottom of connector? You could literally solder wires to pins or solder pads. Wouldn't waste time looking for that connector etc.

If you do solder to board, use some adhesive such as silicone caulk and adhere wires to board. Provide strain relief for solder connections so wires are constantly flexing on board and break solder joint or wiring.
Top notch idea I think
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Christopher_55934 wrote:
If it were mine, I would remove that black plastic shell, leave the pins, looks like it's glued to board. That cover will pull off. You could also cut that plastic with a sharp pair of cutters to get it out of the way. Solder wires directly to those pins and cover with heat shrink tubing.

Is that connector surface mounted with pins soldered at bottom of connector? You could literally solder wires to pins or solder pads. Wouldn't waste time looking for that connector etc.

If you do solder to board, use some adhesive such as silicone caulk and adhere wires to board. Provide strain relief for solder connections so wires are constantly flexing on board and break solder joint or wiring.
THIS IS THE WAY. Great idea. You wrangled up all the various thoughts in my head. I dont need the connector... just need to practice my soldering skills a bit. Me thinks Me can manage
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Fri, 24 Mar 2023 23:59:26 +0000 quote
GeekLion wrote:
I'm also adding a LED lighted plate frame from Custom Dynamics. It includes integrated tail, brake, indicators, and plate frame lights.
I have this same license plate frame on the back of my KTM 990A, and i like it. The LEDs are bright enough for daytime use....unless they're covered in mud.





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I have this same license plate frame on the back of my KTM 990A, and i like it. The LEDs are bright enough for daytime use....unless they're covered in mud.
Cool glad to hear it. I like it so far, while sitting here in the shop going nowhere. It does seem pretty bright, enough for the purpose. I'm happy with it.

I decided to ditch the V50 rear light, atleast for now. I didn't want to spend time sorting it out and fitting; so I put on the euro P light. Back on the road is the priority, not which light is purrdier
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Sat, 25 Mar 2023 10:02:55 +0000 quote
But that 50 taillight sure looks good!
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Sat, 25 Mar 2023 13:15:57 +0000 quote
Agreed, that's looking great! But what light IS this, I don't think I've seen it before? Searching suggests 50 Special Elestart?




I put an older Euro smallframe tail lite on my Super which works well with my rack.

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Sat, 25 Mar 2023 16:51:15 +0000 quote
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But that 50 taillight sure looks good!
I agree! The light is from a V50 Special. I still plan to go back to it, later down the road. I like the sleek trick look. Its about 50% size of the euro P light.
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Is the white paint a rattle can resto or did you use a paint gun? It looks quite good and seems to have held up well. I would be happy to get those results from a gun.
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orwell84 wrote:
Is the white paint a rattle can resto or did you use a paint gun? It looks quite good and seems to have held up well. I would be happy to get those results from a gun.
It is a professional spray job I had done in '99. I stripped it down and did most of the body work, then the shop finished up ,sealed primered and finish sprayed. Single stage paint, off white color I chose from a swatch. lol.
Not bad for $400 and almost 25 years!
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Thu, 30 Mar 2023 05:54:30 +0000 quote
Nuthin to see here. Just a vespa that almost looks the way it should. Progress happening. Almost to the finish line before the stormy rainy weekend. Updates coming. Until then carry on.



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Thu, 30 Mar 2023 05:56:10 +0000 quote
Looking really good brother - really good!
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Tue, 11 Apr 2023 21:37:16 +0000 quote
its about time for some updates! Lets finish up this lighting


This is a horn, not a light. However, it is wired to the same switch; so I'm counting it. The horn in the scoot was not working, so I replaced it with a spare original horn from the stash.


New COSA headlight unit. The housing has a glass lens, plastic back; and is a direct fit. Takes an H4 bulb. I'm using a standard halogen for now.


COSA headlight mounting brackets & m5 stainless hardware


Pilot bulb is an Amber LED


Amber Pilot bulb. Turns on with key in run & park. Also gives a slight amber glow while the main headlight is on.


SHARP n SHINY . BRITE n LITE.

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Next up was a new Fast Flow fuel tap from SIP. I went with the reserve light option, as I will add a light and/or digital gauge in the future.


SIP Fast Flow Fuel Tap 2.0 w/ reserve light


Necessary equipment


New tap in place. I sealed up the wiring with heatshrink, so I can use it later. Tank was clean, just gave a rinse with fresh gas.


Helix racing poly braided fuel line. 26", trimmed down to 24" after test fitting with the carb & manifold.


dry fit of fuel line with manifold and carb

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Tue, 11 Apr 2023 22:11:18 +0000 quote
Next I worked on the Clutch.

I'm using an SIP Cosa 2 Sport clutch. Its a steel banded basket, with space for 16 springs. When I got this scoot the clutch felt ok, but there is only one way to be sure; so I pulled it out to set my own eyes on it. I'm glad I did. Even though the cork material was still in good condition, the teeth of both the steel & cork plates were very worn. Time for a rebuild and little upgrade.


Lets take this clutch apart with my DIY clutch compressor - A big bolt nut and washers.


ready for inspection. Basket, cog, spring plate, bushings, all good. Plates need replacing.


Seen worse. and seen better. We can do better


As found it was using 8 regular springs.


Pieces of this puzzle. I'm using SIP CR80 style plates, SIP steel plates, Piaggio brass bushings, 8 L springs + 8 XL springs, heavy duty SIP clip. All new o-rings for the cover.


SIP CR80 style plates, soaking in non-detergent 30wt oil


As received it had an original style COSA nut & wave washer. These are a 'distorted-top' style nut. I have that style new, and a DRT machined nut + star washer. I chose the DRT nut. I'm not a fan of distorted threads


Torqued to spec with new woodruff key, DRT nut & star washer, new cover plate.


A bit of work on the cable arm. I smoothed everything out, and rounded the pivot area for the cable clamp.


Modified clutch arm with rounded cable clamp pivot area.


Clutch arm, front side; with smoothed edges and rounded profile



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Tue, 11 Apr 2023 22:24:26 +0000

The Dude
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Tue, 11 Apr 2023 22:24:26 +0000 quote
Next I worked on the final install of the cables for the throttle and shifting.

For the throttle cable and shifter tubes I'm using SIP quick action pulley's. These require a slightly longer cable inner for all 3 cables, due to the larger diameter of the pully.

For the throttle, I'm reusing the old outer cable, and adding an RMS extra long cable inner. For the shifters I installed all new SIP performance outer and inners.

When adjusting the shift cables, I have come to rely on VooDoo's tried and true ingenious method! It truly is some Voodoo magic!


Im using an extra long throttle cable inner from RMS. It has a soldered end for the carb, and a pinch bolt for the headset end.


throttle cable pulled bottom to top, pinch bolt in place. makes initial adjustment easy. cable trimmed to length after test fit of carb operation.


Shifter cables installed, and grip marked for neutral position.


Voodoo's shift cable adjustment technique. LIVE in ACTION! Quick easy and accurate. Also see that I've replaced the cable clamp pinch bolt with countersunk allen bolts; this is just my preference and easier to tighten IMHO.

Wed, 12 Apr 2023 04:08:10 +0000

Nedminder
62 VBB1T Round Tail W/ leaner sidecar
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Wed, 12 Apr 2023 04:08:10 +0000 quote
So much to cover here.
So good.
- The clutch arm hole refinement. That is the polished tapered hole of a man that has experienced the inconvenient fray of a clutch cable on the road somewhere.
- Did you fabricate that intake manifold?!
- can we talk about this?



Wed, 12 Apr 2023 04:18:16 +0000

Ossessionato
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
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Ossessionato
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Wed, 12 Apr 2023 04:18:16 +0000 quote
charlieman22 wrote:
- can we talk about this?
You mean mixing a paint brush up in the same row as the pliers?

I just want to go visit and sneakily move some wrenches around, but don't say anything...
Wed, 12 Apr 2023 12:33:35 +0000

Nedminder
62 VBB1T Round Tail W/ leaner sidecar
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Wed, 12 Apr 2023 12:33:35 +0000 quote
qascooter wrote:
You mean mixing a paint brush up in the same row as the pliers?

I just want to go visit and sneakily move some wrenches around, but don't say anything...
Hahaha.
It's just so damn neat!
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Wed, 12 Apr 2023 22:20:33 +0000

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The Dude
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Wed, 12 Apr 2023 22:20:33 +0000 quote
charlieman22 wrote:
So much to cover here.
So good.
- The clutch arm hole refinement. That is the polished tapered hole of a man that has experienced the inconvenient fray of a clutch cable on the road somewhere.
- Did you fabricate that intake manifold?!
- can we talk about this?
We can talk about anything You want. That Pegboard is actually kind of mess! lol I have plans for pegboard wall 2.0 in the very near future! I love the board for all those frequently used tools, like the wrenches. The paintbrush is for dry brush/dusting of parts. No paint allowed on that one! Scott, if Ya move it - I'LL KNOW!

CLUTCH ARM: yes, I have experienced said roadside clutch cable severance. And the pay was steep! Always carry a spare! or 2

INTAKE MANIFOLD: I did not fabricate it. It is the same intake from when the engine was first tuned. It is a 90's design Malossi reed intake. Adaptor plate mounts to engine, intake mounts to adaptor, then reed block / carb mount. It is a little awkward installing, and the final position for the carb is a fairly steep angle. Newer manifolds are larger, and maybe cleaner looking final install; but this is like a 'period build' for now. To me the weirdness of this setup is kinda rad, and its worked for 20+ years
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Wed, 12 Apr 2023 22:32:44 +0000

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Wed, 12 Apr 2023 22:32:44 +0000 quote
speaking of the manifold -


the adaptor plate. Opened up just a bit.... There is alum material added to the clutch side before porting. Obv's it's seen some rough days. I resurfaced both faces after this photo.


bottom of the main manifold piece. this mounts on top of the adaptor plate.


looking down the main manifold, into the adaptor plate / engine case. the reed block mounts on top here


I have 2 options for the carb mount. Alum made my Worb5, or original Malossi Rubber. The rubber is heavy with a metal plate inside, but they are prone to cracking on the lower edge of the mounting area.


bottom view of the connectors

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Wed, 12 Apr 2023 22:45:28 +0000

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Wed, 12 Apr 2023 22:45:28 +0000 quote
The fiberglass reeds that came back with scoot, were a bit tired and worn. I refreshed the block with new Malossi carbon fiber reeds.


A view of most of the pieces of fuel puzzle. You can see clear view of the main reed manifold,


fiberglass reeds frayed




Fresh Carbon!


Looks fast

Thu, 13 Apr 2023 01:25:29 +0000

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Molto Verboso
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Thu, 13 Apr 2023 01:25:29 +0000 quote
Good to see another old school Malossi reed just like mine.



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Thu, 13 Apr 2023 07:02:34 +0000

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Thu, 13 Apr 2023 07:02:34 +0000 quote
hibbert wrote:
Good to see another old school Malossi reed just like mine.
YayMan!! Awesome! Keepin it oldschool.
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