OP
@jimc avatar
UTC

Moderaptor
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: UTC
Posts: 43942
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
 
Moderaptor
@jimc avatar
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: UTC
Posts: 43942
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
UTC quote
Here's one:
What happened? On Jan. 1, a law intended to safeguard the more than 1.5 million Americans with a sesame allergy — including the McDermott and Tibbs children (and, full disclosure, my son as well) — took effect. The law mandates, among other things, careful cleaning to prevent cross-contact between food products with and without sesame.

In a twist few would have expected, however, many food companies have chosen to add small amounts of sesame flour to products that were previously sesame-free, instead of conducting the careful cleaning required for foods without sesame.

The result? Foods that sesame-allergic kids and adults have eaten safely for years are now potentially life-threatening.
@jess avatar
UTC

Petty Tyrant
0:7 And counting
Joined: UTC
Posts: 37348
Location: Bay Area, California
 
Petty Tyrant
@jess avatar
0:7 And counting
Joined: UTC
Posts: 37348
Location: Bay Area, California
UTC quote
That's seriously fucked up.
@vespasfw3 avatar
UTC

Ossessionato
2006 Vespa GTS250ie, 2004 Vespa ET4, 2022 Royal Enfield Himalayan, 2001 Kawasaki W650, 2023 Honda Trail 125.
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2419
Location: Central Pennsylvania
 
Ossessionato
@vespasfw3 avatar
2006 Vespa GTS250ie, 2004 Vespa ET4, 2022 Royal Enfield Himalayan, 2001 Kawasaki W650, 2023 Honda Trail 125.
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2419
Location: Central Pennsylvania
UTC quote
An example of how a well intentioned regulation can be turned upside down. A terrible way to have a low carb diet foisted on someone.

Hopefully Congress can amend the law before the food industry lobby makes it impossible.
@vintagescooterdude avatar
UTC

Hooked
2006 GT200 2009 Genuine Stella
Joined: UTC
Posts: 279
Location: Chandler, AZ
 
Hooked
@vintagescooterdude avatar
2006 GT200 2009 Genuine Stella
Joined: UTC
Posts: 279
Location: Chandler, AZ
UTC quote
"We take food safety and allergen matters very seriously. … On our current national menu in the U.S., our premium and value buns contain sesame flour as an ingredient." Seems like a completely contradictory statement by Wendys. My youngest daughter, now 31, has a peanut allergy, though not life threatening.
UTC

Veni, Vidi, Posti
Joined: UTC
Posts: 7095
Location: Tega Cay, SC
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
Joined: UTC
Posts: 7095
Location: Tega Cay, SC
UTC quote
Crazy, absolutely crazy. The part of the story that referred to the student that had no choice but to eat at the college dining hall stuck a chord with me. My daughter, who has some allergies, had switched to a Vegan diet which help immensely. As a freshman at Clemson, she was required to live in a dorm and sign up for the meal plan ($$$). We were assured there was vegan and allergic free options. There were not - nothing at all, no custom meals, no substitutions. I made the trip up after a week of this and with a whole host of students demanded a change. It worked, to a degree and my daughter, with others, volunteered their time to make some of the dishes. After her freshman year she moved off campus, but still stayed involved so students could have a choice.
@bob_copeland avatar
UTC

Ossessionato
2013 Vespa 300 Super, 2022 Kymco AK 550
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3611
Location: Minneapolis USA
 
Ossessionato
@bob_copeland avatar
2013 Vespa 300 Super, 2022 Kymco AK 550
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3611
Location: Minneapolis USA
UTC quote
Wow, this is the definition of unintended consequences.

This food stuff is bizarre.

Some point out that Washington is locked and can not accomplish
anything. I say super. At least they are not passing a law that takes
more money out of my pocket or makes what I am currently doing
illegal or screwing up my food.

Bob Copeland
@caschnd1 avatar
UTC

Grumpy Biker
1980 Vespa P200e (sold), 2002 Vespa ET4 (sold), 1949 Harley-Davidson FL
Joined: UTC
Posts: 5454
Location: Sparks, Nevada, USA
 
Grumpy Biker
@caschnd1 avatar
1980 Vespa P200e (sold), 2002 Vespa ET4 (sold), 1949 Harley-Davidson FL
Joined: UTC
Posts: 5454
Location: Sparks, Nevada, USA
UTC quote
jess wrote:
That's seriously fucked up.
That is fucked up. But also quintessential corporate America. Profit above lives every time!
@californiacruising avatar
UTC

Addicted
2015 Sprint 150, 2018 GTS 300
Joined: UTC
Posts: 894
Location: SoCal
 
Addicted
@californiacruising avatar
2015 Sprint 150, 2018 GTS 300
Joined: UTC
Posts: 894
Location: SoCal
UTC quote
jimc wrote:
Here's one:
I noticed Trader Joes sour dough bread has very few ingredients in it, not sure maybe some of their other products are the same?

We are trying to avoid seed oils as much as possible and bake our own artisan bread every other day, really simple recipe, 3 ingredients plus water.
@gbaby avatar
UTC

Molto Verboso
Modern Primavera (not pictured); Moto Guzzi V-85 TT
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1739
Location: Los Angeles, CA
 
Molto Verboso
@gbaby avatar
Modern Primavera (not pictured); Moto Guzzi V-85 TT
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1739
Location: Los Angeles, CA
UTC quote
That's depressing.

I recently saw a sign at the entrance to Staples Center (er...Crypto.com Arena) that said "This facility contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer, birth defects or other reproductive harm." This is a tiny sign outside a 19,000 seat arena. Whatever law was passed that made that sign appear there was surely put in place with the intention of making things better, but it seems that at this stage people just slap those signs up as a preemptive measure to avoid blame for whatever might be happening inside. There are so many of them in so many places that they are just ignored and mostly just eliminate any liability for the proprietors.

I can imagine a sign at the border, "This state contains chemicals known to cause cancer, birth defects or other reproductive harm."
@jkj-fz6 avatar
UTC

Ossessionato
BV400, Primavera 150, Yamaha Zuma 125
Joined: UTC
Posts: 4280
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
 
Ossessionato
@jkj-fz6 avatar
BV400, Primavera 150, Yamaha Zuma 125
Joined: UTC
Posts: 4280
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
UTC quote
Those chemicals cause cancer only in Californians. I live in Minnesota so I'm not worried about it. Razz emoticon
@steelbytes avatar
UTC

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2019 GTS300 Supertech E3 60,000km
Joined: UTC
Posts: 5732
Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
@steelbytes avatar
2019 GTS300 Supertech E3 60,000km
Joined: UTC
Posts: 5732
Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
UTC quote
JKJ-FZ6 wrote:
Those chemicals cause cancer only in Californians. I live in Minnesota so I'm not worried about it. Razz emoticon
March 18, 2023
Nuclear Power Plant in Minnesota Reveals It Leaked 400,000 Gallons of Radioactive Water
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/nuclear-power-plant-minnesota-reveals-135355406.html
@cheshire avatar
UTC

Molto Verboso
GTS (sold)
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1148
Location: US overlander, NC-plated
 
Molto Verboso
@cheshire avatar
GTS (sold)
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1148
Location: US overlander, NC-plated
UTC quote
I deal with that via soy flour & soy protein, but that's more of a simple greed issue (filler ingredient) on the corporation's side...not petty spite.

...At least they're still (so far) required to list ingredients, right?
@jess avatar
UTC

Petty Tyrant
0:7 And counting
Joined: UTC
Posts: 37348
Location: Bay Area, California
 
Petty Tyrant
@jess avatar
0:7 And counting
Joined: UTC
Posts: 37348
Location: Bay Area, California
UTC quote
GBaby wrote:
I recently saw a sign at the entrance to Staples Center (er...Crypto.com Arena) that said "This facility contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer, birth defects or other reproductive harm."
Yep. That's Prop 65. And yes, because the message is so common in California, it has effectively become meaningless.
@adri avatar
UTC

Atypical Canadian
2009 Vespa S50(LX150 motor swap), 2006 Vespa GTS250ie
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2319
Location: Toronto, Canada
 
Atypical Canadian
@adri avatar
2009 Vespa S50(LX150 motor swap), 2006 Vespa GTS250ie
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2319
Location: Toronto, Canada
UTC quote
Legislatures said "We are going to regulate free market."

Free market said "I'll show you were you can stick your legislation."

And in the end the people are worse off... Hold up, let me act surprised.

*takes a moment to compose himself*

Oh my GOD, can you believe this you guys?!
@jess avatar
UTC

Petty Tyrant
0:7 And counting
Joined: UTC
Posts: 37348
Location: Bay Area, California
 
Petty Tyrant
@jess avatar
0:7 And counting
Joined: UTC
Posts: 37348
Location: Bay Area, California
UTC quote
adri wrote:
Legislatures said "We are going to regulate free market."

Free market said "I'll show you were you can stick your legislation."
Do you remember when lead was added to gasoline to reduce engine knock? How about paint? Do you remember the lead in paint? Maybe you're too young to remember "the good old days".
⚠️ Last edited by jess on UTC; edited 1 time
@gbaby avatar
UTC

Molto Verboso
Modern Primavera (not pictured); Moto Guzzi V-85 TT
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1739
Location: Los Angeles, CA
 
Molto Verboso
@gbaby avatar
Modern Primavera (not pictured); Moto Guzzi V-85 TT
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1739
Location: Los Angeles, CA
UTC quote
We may bemoan the failure of our efforts sometimes but that doesn't mean we shouldn't keep trying.
@adri avatar
UTC

Atypical Canadian
2009 Vespa S50(LX150 motor swap), 2006 Vespa GTS250ie
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2319
Location: Toronto, Canada
 
Atypical Canadian
@adri avatar
2009 Vespa S50(LX150 motor swap), 2006 Vespa GTS250ie
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2319
Location: Toronto, Canada
UTC quote
jess wrote:
Do you remember when lead was added to gasoline to reduce engine knock? How about paint? Do remember the lead in paint? Maybe you're too young to remember "the good old days".
Yes, but asbestos in brakes would have been a much more Vespa forum oriented example Why do you ask?
@adri avatar
UTC

Atypical Canadian
2009 Vespa S50(LX150 motor swap), 2006 Vespa GTS250ie
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2319
Location: Toronto, Canada
 
Atypical Canadian
@adri avatar
2009 Vespa S50(LX150 motor swap), 2006 Vespa GTS250ie
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2319
Location: Toronto, Canada
UTC quote
GBaby wrote:
We may bemoan the failure of our efforts sometimes but that doesn't mean we shouldn't keep trying.
Ooh, fancy word, but, agreed.

Also means we shouldn't stop making light of the good and the bad.

When life gives you lemons, some will bemoan about it, some will make lemonade, I like making limoncello.
@gbaby avatar
UTC

Molto Verboso
Modern Primavera (not pictured); Moto Guzzi V-85 TT
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1739
Location: Los Angeles, CA
 
Molto Verboso
@gbaby avatar
Modern Primavera (not pictured); Moto Guzzi V-85 TT
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1739
Location: Los Angeles, CA
UTC quote
adri wrote:
Ooh, fancy word, but, agreed.
The word "bemoan" was chosen for its surfeit of cromulence, given the particulars of this thread.
@jess avatar
UTC

Petty Tyrant
0:7 And counting
Joined: UTC
Posts: 37348
Location: Bay Area, California
 
Petty Tyrant
@jess avatar
0:7 And counting
Joined: UTC
Posts: 37348
Location: Bay Area, California
UTC quote
adri wrote:
Yes, but asbestos in brakes would have been a much more Vespa forum oriented example Why do you ask?
Fair. Asbestos would've been a better example.

The point is: the free market would poison all of us for profit if they could get away with it. The free market has done so repeatedly in the past, are doing so in the present, and will continue to attempt to do so in the future.

The free market isn't to be trusted with product safety.
@adri avatar
UTC

Atypical Canadian
2009 Vespa S50(LX150 motor swap), 2006 Vespa GTS250ie
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2319
Location: Toronto, Canada
 
Atypical Canadian
@adri avatar
2009 Vespa S50(LX150 motor swap), 2006 Vespa GTS250ie
Joined: UTC
Posts: 2319
Location: Toronto, Canada
UTC quote
jess wrote:
Fair. Asbestos would've been a better example.

The point is: the free market would poison all of us for profit if they could get away with it. The free market has done so repeatedly in the past, are doing so in the present, and will continue to attempt to do so in the future.

The free market isn't to be trusted with product safety.
Was someone saying otherwise?

We're all just witnesses commenting on the game of cat and mouse between legislation and free market.
@dibiasio avatar
UTC

Addicted
2006 LX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 685
Location: Los Angeles
 
Addicted
@dibiasio avatar
2006 LX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 685
Location: Los Angeles
UTC quote
Bob Copeland wrote:
Wow, this is the definition of unintended consequences.

This food stuff is bizarre.

Some point out that Washington is locked and can not accomplish
anything. I say super. At least they are not passing a law that takes
more money out of my pocket or makes what I am currently doing
illegal or screwing up my food.

Bob Copeland
Mr. Copeland,

You HAD to have noticed the part where jimc was expressing concern over his son's potentially life-threatening circumstance. Because they were screwing up his food.

You waxed way Scroogeier than you probably intended, but man that was breathtakingly Scrooge-like.

I'm not the boss of you but I just wanted to say God bless us everyone.
@znomit avatar
UTC

Veni, Vidi, Posti
LX190 Friday afternoon special, [s]Primavera[/s], S50, too many pushbikes
Joined: UTC
Posts: 10367
Location: Hermit Kingdom
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
@znomit avatar
LX190 Friday afternoon special, [s]Primavera[/s], S50, too many pushbikes
Joined: UTC
Posts: 10367
Location: Hermit Kingdom
UTC quote
I expect they are worried about getting sued if trace amounts are found in food.
We typically get a warning about what foods might contain or sometimes "made in a factory that also uses peanuts".


eg
FLAVOURED BISCUITS
Wheat Flour, Vegetable Oil (Antioxidant (E307b From Soy)), Sugar, Salt, Malt Extract (From Barley), Baking Powder, Flavour Enhancers (E621, E635), Onion Powder, Natural Flavour, Maltodextrin (Maize), Chicken Powder, Spices, Antioxidant (E300), Yeast Extract, Emulsifier (Soy Lecithin).
CONTAINS WHEAT, GLUTEN, SOY.
MAY CONTAIN EGG, MILK, TREE NUTS, PEANUT, SESAME.


ps, I love my iPhone can rip text right out of photos.
@chipshot avatar
UTC

Enthusiast
2014 BV 350
Joined: UTC
Posts: 81
Location: West Central FL
 
Enthusiast
@chipshot avatar
2014 BV 350
Joined: UTC
Posts: 81
Location: West Central FL
UTC quote
jess wrote:
The point is: the free market would poison all of us for profit if they could get away with it.
When there is profit to be had, health and the environment get tossed aside.
@der_blechfahrer avatar
UTC

Molto Verboso
ET3 & PX150 & GTS 300 Super Sport MY23 & Yamaha Neo's electric
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1881
Location: Berlin
 
Molto Verboso
@der_blechfahrer avatar
ET3 & PX150 & GTS 300 Super Sport MY23 & Yamaha Neo's electric
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1881
Location: Berlin
UTC quote
jess wrote:
Yep. That's Prop 65. And yes, because the message is so common in California, it has effectively become meaningless.
Next, they're going to plaster our beautiful Vespas with meaningless warning stickers.
Forum member supplied image with no explanatory text
@jkj-fz6 avatar
UTC

Ossessionato
BV400, Primavera 150, Yamaha Zuma 125
Joined: UTC
Posts: 4280
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
 
Ossessionato
@jkj-fz6 avatar
BV400, Primavera 150, Yamaha Zuma 125
Joined: UTC
Posts: 4280
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
UTC quote
Der Blechfahrer wrote:
Next, they're going to plaster our beautiful Vespas with meaningless warning stickers.
"No Pets"?
@fledermaus avatar
UTC

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2007 LX150 2015 GTS (on the bench) 2017 BV 350
Joined: UTC
Posts: 12110
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
@fledermaus avatar
2007 LX150 2015 GTS (on the bench) 2017 BV 350
Joined: UTC
Posts: 12110
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
UTC quote
jess wrote:
Yep. That's Prop 65. And yes, because the message is so common in California, it has effectively become meaningless.
Much as I love visiting California, these signs seem simply absurd. They seem typically vague, and as a result near-meaningless. I remember being at a downtown LA hotel for an event, and noted a sign at an obscure entrance telling me the building contains potentially cancer-causing substances? Whatt??
To be fair, so do my earphones.

I prefer simple, direct warnings, like on silicon dessicants..."Do not eat." Can't tell you how many time's I've put the knife and fork down....

But, yeah, I can't imagine having to deal with deadly allergies, let alone the pushback on trying to help people with them.
@fledermaus avatar
UTC

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2007 LX150 2015 GTS (on the bench) 2017 BV 350
Joined: UTC
Posts: 12110
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
@fledermaus avatar
2007 LX150 2015 GTS (on the bench) 2017 BV 350
Joined: UTC
Posts: 12110
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
UTC quote
JKJ-FZ6 wrote:
"No Pets"?
My cats very lives are owed to that sticker.... Razz emoticon
@jess avatar
UTC

Petty Tyrant
0:7 And counting
Joined: UTC
Posts: 37348
Location: Bay Area, California
 
Petty Tyrant
@jess avatar
0:7 And counting
Joined: UTC
Posts: 37348
Location: Bay Area, California
UTC quote
znomit wrote:
I expect they are worried about getting sued if trace amounts are found in food.
It's more overt than that. They cannot label it as containing sesame if it doesn't actually contain sesame, so they add a small amount of sesame flour deliberately in order to be compliant with a different regulation and, as a side effect, the allergen regulation.

Fuckers.
@madison_sully avatar
UTC

Veni, Vidi, Posti
MP3 500, GTS 250 (both 2008 MY), 2013 Piaggio BV 350, 2014 Can Am Spyder RT
Joined: UTC
Posts: 7589
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
@madison_sully avatar
MP3 500, GTS 250 (both 2008 MY), 2013 Piaggio BV 350, 2014 Can Am Spyder RT
Joined: UTC
Posts: 7589
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
UTC quote
jess wrote:
Fuckers.
Do you mean the company, the government, or someone else?

Or perhaps all of them?
UTC

Veni, Vidi, Posti
Joined: UTC
Posts: 7095
Location: Tega Cay, SC
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
Joined: UTC
Posts: 7095
Location: Tega Cay, SC
UTC quote
It's all about profits over people. I just expected better from a college(Clemson)where they should be a little more enlightened.
@jess avatar
UTC

Petty Tyrant
0:7 And counting
Joined: UTC
Posts: 37348
Location: Bay Area, California
 
Petty Tyrant
@jess avatar
0:7 And counting
Joined: UTC
Posts: 37348
Location: Bay Area, California
UTC quote
Madison Sully wrote:
Do you mean the company, the government, or someone else?
The multiple companies that are adding a known allergen to food in order to comply with allergen regulations.
@cheshire avatar
UTC

Molto Verboso
GTS (sold)
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1148
Location: US overlander, NC-plated
 
Molto Verboso
@cheshire avatar
GTS (sold)
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1148
Location: US overlander, NC-plated
UTC quote
znomit wrote:
I expect they are worried about getting sued if trace amounts are found in food.
We typically get a warning about what foods might contain or sometimes "made in a factory that also uses peanuts".


eg
FLAVOURED BISCUITS
Wheat Flour, Vegetable Oil (Antioxidant (E307b From Soy)), Sugar, Salt, Malt Extract (From Barley), Baking Powder, Flavour Enhancers (E621, E635), Onion Powder, Natural Flavour, Maltodextrin (Maize), Chicken Powder, Spices, Antioxidant (E300), Yeast Extract, Emulsifier (Soy Lecithin).
CONTAINS WHEAT, GLUTEN, SOY.
MAY CONTAIN EGG, MILK, TREE NUTS, PEANUT, SESAME.


ps, I love my iPhone can rip text right out of photos.
It's also needed for the people with severe allergies. I dated someone who was THAT allergic to tree nuts. If I ate pumpkin bread with walnuts for breakfast and kissed them an hour later, they would have a reaction. Open-food deli shops and similar coffee shops were a gamble, where individually-wrapped food was much safer. It was a learning curve for sure!
@vintagescooterdude avatar
UTC

Hooked
2006 GT200 2009 Genuine Stella
Joined: UTC
Posts: 279
Location: Chandler, AZ
 
Hooked
@vintagescooterdude avatar
2006 GT200 2009 Genuine Stella
Joined: UTC
Posts: 279
Location: Chandler, AZ
UTC quote
"The free market isn't to be trusted with product safety". That is true. But the government certainly isn't.
@bob_copeland avatar
UTC

Ossessionato
2013 Vespa 300 Super, 2022 Kymco AK 550
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3611
Location: Minneapolis USA
 
Ossessionato
@bob_copeland avatar
2013 Vespa 300 Super, 2022 Kymco AK 550
Joined: UTC
Posts: 3611
Location: Minneapolis USA
UTC quote
DiBiasio,

Very insightful, I think there is a little Ebenezer Scrooge in me.

I do notice in this thread a sort of "piling on of the Free Market".
Profit is not bad thing, it produces the efficiency and capital that
gives everyone of us employment.

If damaging and dangerous products emerge, I think we have
a system that can call this out. Also, we have a tort legal
system that can hold them accountable. Not a perfect system.
but on and off functioning.

On a upbeat note, I got out today for the first time in six months
and took my vespa for a 100 mile run and a good lunch with a friend.
I had the scoot on a battery tender all Winter. It fired up on the
first push of the starter. I checked the tire pressure and off I went.

Bob Copeland
2013 Vespa GTS 300ie Super
2013 Vespa GTS 300ie Super
@motovista avatar
UTC

Veni, Vidi, Posti
GT 2.4
Joined: UTC
Posts: 9032
Location: Watts, Cherokee Nation
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
@motovista avatar
GT 2.4
Joined: UTC
Posts: 9032
Location: Watts, Cherokee Nation
UTC quote
What the article is missing is information as to what exactly would be involved in taking steps to ensure products, made at a facility that uses sesame in other products, are 100% sesame free, and how much this added expense would add to the price of a given product. It doesn't sound like something you can comply with by wiping down the equipment with a paper towel. It sounds more like something that is very hard to do and expensive.
@motovista avatar
UTC

Veni, Vidi, Posti
GT 2.4
Joined: UTC
Posts: 9032
Location: Watts, Cherokee Nation
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
@motovista avatar
GT 2.4
Joined: UTC
Posts: 9032
Location: Watts, Cherokee Nation
UTC quote
DiBiasio wrote:
Mr. Copeland,

You HAD to have noticed the part where jimc was expressing concern over his son's potentially life-threatening circumstance. Because they were screwing up his food.
Before jumping in headfirst, You MIGHT have noticed that the part about a son was written by the writer of the article, and not the OP.
According to the article, sesame allergies affect less than .5% of the US population. Sesame is prevalent in cooking oil blends and many things that aren't labeled as having sesame, as well as makeups and lip balms. So is it better for that small segment of the population to source sesame free products or for everyone to pay more for their products?
⚠️ Last edited by Motovista on UTC; edited 1 time
@znomit avatar
UTC

Veni, Vidi, Posti
LX190 Friday afternoon special, [s]Primavera[/s], S50, too many pushbikes
Joined: UTC
Posts: 10367
Location: Hermit Kingdom
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
@znomit avatar
LX190 Friday afternoon special, [s]Primavera[/s], S50, too many pushbikes
Joined: UTC
Posts: 10367
Location: Hermit Kingdom
UTC quote
Motovista wrote:
What the article is missing is information as to what exactly would be involved in taking steps to ensure products, made at a facility that uses sesame in other products, are 100% sesame free, and how much this added expense would add to the price of a given product. It doesn't sound like something you can comply with by wiping down the equipment with a paper towel. It sounds more like something that is very hard to do and expensive.
You're insinuating that guy you're paying minimum wage to do the cleaning isn't 100% reliable? Well, maybe you need to open a lab that can test for sesame residue before each production change.

Oh, that lady that works on both lines? Nope, can't do that.
@motovista avatar
UTC

Veni, Vidi, Posti
GT 2.4
Joined: UTC
Posts: 9032
Location: Watts, Cherokee Nation
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
@motovista avatar
GT 2.4
Joined: UTC
Posts: 9032
Location: Watts, Cherokee Nation
UTC quote
Instead of hiring minimum wage janitorial staff, you could hire people with sesame allergies to take a bite out of everything that comes off the production line. But then you have to hire someone else to man the epi-pens.
@dibiasio avatar
UTC

Addicted
2006 LX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 685
Location: Los Angeles
 
Addicted
@dibiasio avatar
2006 LX150
Joined: UTC
Posts: 685
Location: Los Angeles
UTC quote
Motovista wrote:
Before jumping in headfirst, You MIGHT have noticed that the part about a son was written by the writer of the article, and not the OP.
According to the article, sesame allergies affect less than .5% of the US population. Sesame is prevalent in cooking oil blends and many things that aren't labeled as having sesame, as well as makeups and lip balms. So is it better for that small segment of the population to source sesame free products or for everyone to pay more for their products?
You are right. But my misattribution doesn't make the response I called into question one iota less Scroogecore.
DoubleGood Design banner

Modern Vespa is the premier site for modern Vespa and Piaggio scooters. Vespa GTS300, GTS250, GTV, GT200, LX150, LXS, ET4, ET2, MP3, Fuoco, Elettrica and more.

Buy Me A Coffee
 

Shop on Amazon with Modern Vespa

Modern Vespa is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com


All Content Copyright 2005-2024 by Modern Vespa.
All Rights Reserved.


[ Time: 0.0272s ][ Queries: 4 (0.0046s) ][ live ][ 313 ][ ThingOne ]