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I purchased SIP p/n 50004600 (Rally 200 femsa vespatronic kit). After installation the woodruff key gave way and completely knackered the crank and flywheel. The rest of the system is fine and I've got a new crank on the shelf. I reached out to my parts supplier and SIP directly looking for just the flywheel for this kit and it turns out it isn't offered my itself. It was suggested that I look at Ebay Italy, but that isn't proving to be fruitful. Does anyone have any ideas or leads?
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EEK. That's a bitter pill. Sorry... no help but hope you find a solution. If you don't run down just a vespatronic flywheel and have to buy another complete kit, I think Pinasco makes a femsa compatible EI that will save you maybe 75.00 bucks?
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The only other electronic ignition option Ive found for the Femsa cranks is the Pinasco flytech. I don't think that would work for you as the pickup is different than the Vespatronics and I don't think they sell just the flywheel.
If you haven't already rebuilt things, I'd say swap the femsa crank for a p200 crank. Just need a different flyside bearing and seal. It opens you up to a lot more aftermarket ignitions. I love my Femsa Rallys and the quirks that come with them, but when the Flytech craps out on mine, I'll swap for Vape. |
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In what way is the flywheel messed up? just the taper and keyway?
If so you may be able to clean it up and lap it to fit. note: I'm running the vespatronic on my Rally and had to do a few modifications to the stator to get things to fit, but I think that was unique to the one i got. |
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oopsclunkthud wrote: In what way is the flywheel messed up? just the taper and keyway? If so you may be able to clean it up and lap it to fit. |
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The woodruff key is just a guide to keep everything lined up. Ie, soft and almost sort of sacrificial. If you have a good taper, you don't really need a key to hold things together. Can we see pictures of the shaft taper and the inside of the flywheel? Maybe its not that bad?
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I only have 1 thing to say...
Well actually, others have already said it... What Have You JB Welded? |
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SubEtherBASS wrote: I only have 1 thing to say... Well actually, others have already said it... What Have You JB Welded? |
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spacecat wrote: this was inspirational There's plenty more gems of knowledge where that came from! |
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I bet you didn't torque down the flywheel nut tight enough before you tried it out? Ask me how I know, and more than once
SubEtherBASS wrote: See, nowhere near knackered! ... A half hour w/ a Dremel in there to remove the high spots, then onto a crankshaft to be lapped in. First coarse compound, then fine. Then small Swiss pattern files to clean up the keyway and a brand new snug key, then check to see if it catches the keyway. If it does, you're in business w/ your new crank. So let's see your old crank. |
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