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My friend Andy has apparently gotten over his GTS reliablity concerns and rode his scooter from Central Pennsylvania to New York to see a Yankees game.

For anyone wondering what it's like to ride the GTS on interstate highways, in city traffic, splitting lanes, tunnels, and the works, his video gives a fine picture of the experience.

It's also made me feel old and out of step. I think my days of riding like that are behind me...

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That was a hoot, thank you!
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Nice video. Shout out to your friend Andy. I often ride from NYC to Eastern Pennsylvania, also frequently on a Vespa.
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Great video! I know the city pretty good, it was enjoyable seeing it from a scooter view. I m in Florida now and just bought a very top heavy Piaggio 500 2021 model. Learning to ride it.
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Wow!
For one who only rides rural Ohio - that video was a real treat!
Thanks for sharing.
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Very nice to see someone document riding in NYC. Living here and doing the things that Andy was doing etc, one takes it for granted.
Sad that Andy did not share the horrible roads we have to ride on ...
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It's also made me feel old and out of step. I think my days of riding like that are behind me...
I think I am a member of that club too, Steve. Riding on the Interstate roads around Charlotte ( especilly during rush hour) is like playing Russian Rolette - sooner or later you re going to get nailed by a wanna be NASCAR cager. Not that I can't do it, I just don't want to anymore. I thank God every morning that I am still here, retired and don't have to drive in that daily mess anymore.
Thanks for video, cool ride and nicely edited.
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I still enjoy riding anywhere, be it city, country or highway.

On the way to pick up my daughter in Brooklyn a few years ago I rode through the Holland Tunnel, then across Manhattan to Brooklyn.

Then back that way with her on the back.

It was mostly stopping at red lights so not very interesting.

Still fun.

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Good for you, Bill. I'm glad you still enjoy this type of riding. Other than the craziness, I guess I don't find big city riding all that interesting.
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Good for you, Bill. I'm glad you still enjoy this type of riding. Other than the craziness, I guess I don't find big city riding all that interesting.
Big city riding isn't about having fun, for most of us living in big cities riding a PTW is more a convenience for commuting. I don't think I have gone out for a ride in the city just for the sake of riding, especially the last 15 years NYC roads have become worse and since the pandemic, people are more on edge than I have ever witnessed. I find that I am riding my Vespa with a lot more caution as I don't wish to be a victim of random acts of violence.
I will say this that riding in big cities makes one be a better rider in general as one is alert to all sorts of possibilities in traffic or road conditions.
As much as I dislike the riding conditions, I am not sure I could live long term in the serene cool locales that other members live at and share beautiful pictures here.
Some of us seem to need the chaos and the cacophony of big cities to sustain ourselves..
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Nice video. For me as a European it is surprizing how traffic over there is so similar to traffic over here. I could make a video travelling through Brussels and that would look very alike.
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Big city riding isn't about having fun, for most of us living in big cities riding a PTW is more a convenience for commuting. I don't think I have gone out for a ride in the city just for the sake of riding, especially the last 15 years NYC roads have become worse and since the pandemic, people are more on edge than I have ever witnessed. I find that I am riding my Vespa with a lot more caution as I don't wish to be a victim of random acts of violence.
I will say this that riding in big cities makes one be a better rider in general as one is alert to all sorts of possibilities in traffic or road conditions.
The only reason I ride is that is so much fun.

Wherever I go.

As soon as I don't enjoy it, I will quit riding.

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Nice video. For me as a European it is surprizing how traffic over there is so similar to traffic over here. I could make a video travelling through Brussels and that would look very alike.
Wait until you see a video of traffic from Friday rush hour going into the tunnels. You would see behavior quiet unlike from what you are likely to experience in Brussels.

Last Friday as I was leaving Manhattan towards New Jersey I saw people going against the direction of traffic, others that treat red lights as not even a suggestion to slow down, motorcycles without plates and those riding on sidewalks at regular road speeds. All in one short stretch of crossing Manhattan from Brooklyn to New Jersey. Possibly as they say: "Only in New York!"
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watch Itchy Boots latest episode from 10:00 to get a more crazy traffic and lane splitting view

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I think I am a member of that club too, Steve. Riding on the Interstate roads around Charlotte ( especilly during rush hour) is like playing Russian Rolette - sooner or later you re going to get nailed by a wanna be NASCAR cager. Not that I can't do it, I just don't want to anymore. I thank God every morning that I am still here, retired and don't have to drive in that daily mess anymore.
Thanks for video, cool ride and nicely edited.
Ironically, it's on the big slabs in these parts where I've felt safest: all three instances of my getting nailed by a car happened on local roads and streets. I even feel marginally safer on the BQE in Brooklyn (well, not at night, maybe) than I've felt rolling though the towns here in Joisey. That said, tooling in or between the boroughs isn't for the inexperienced and/or feint-of-heart - between the categorically-crappy pavement and the rules-only-apply-to-others attitude that prevails, you can't navigate Gotham with one eye open.

But I dig riding there, and look forward to rolling along those streets again before too long.
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Definitely charming to ride around the city for me as long as I don't have to do the rush hour traffic hustle. And yeah, intersections are the worse place to be, 35% of scoot accidents happen there. Around here, it is common for 2 or 3 cars to pass thru after the light has turned red because there is a few seconds before the perpendicular street light turns green. And they know that and take advantage of it.
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And yes, you will ride again Amateriat. No doubt in my mind. Good man.
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Definitely charming to ride around the city for me as long as I don't have to do the rush hour traffic hustle. And yeah, intersections are the worse place to be, 35% of scoot accidents happen there. Around here, it is common for 2 or 3 cars to pass thru after the light has turned red because there is a few seconds before the perpendicular street light turns green. And they know that and take advantage of it.
I was riding my bicycle in Brooklyn back in 2012, There was a school bus parked on the bike lane very close to the intersection. So I went to the middle where the double yellow lines are and when the light turned red( as you state it is red for both streets have red for a few seconds) I wanted to get a jump start and get out of the median, only a person in a car on the other side was getting through on red as well, they managed to clip my front tire which made me fly up in the air and fall on my head and then side, luckily my helmet saved my bacon, ended up with just 4 broken ribs, a torn shoulder ligament and a punctured lung.
When you are at a intersection, you try and get to the front, then you try to get a head start and leave as soon as the light turns green cuz if you don't someone behind you is going to be upset and may even tap you while you are hoping nobody on the other side is jumping the lights in that split second, it is a catch22 situation do you take the quick start and get ahead and risk getting side swiped by someone not obeying the rules or do you wait and deal with a bunch of angry honking people who just need to get 1 car ahead & feel good about themselves. Thats how it is a lot of times...
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I still enjoy riding anywhere, be it city, country or highway.

You're a maniac, Bill Razz emoticon

I have to admit I don't willingly choose to ride in cities, but when I have, I've loved it too. Different scenery, different challenges. Yes, I generally prefer having more control over my safety and riding choices, but it's all good. FWIW I enjoy bridges and other unique riding challenges, like gravel (I seem to have a reputation there ). I do feel my age at times, but riding seems to dial that back a bit. I'm aware that reflexes, strength and all that aren't what they were a decade ago when I started riding, but not bad, either.... Scooter emoticon
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i wish i was there !
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Ironically, it's on the big slabs in these parts where I've felt safest: all three instances of my getting nailed by a car happened on local roads and streets. I even feel marginally safer on the BQE in Brooklyn (well, not at night, maybe) than I've felt rolling though the towns here in Joisey. That said, tooling in or between the boroughs isn't for the inexperienced and/or feint-of-heart - between the categorically-crappy pavement and the rules-only-apply-to-others attitude that prevails, you can't navigate Gotham with one eye open.

But I dig riding there, and look forward to rolling along those streets again before too long.
Yeah, riding in New York City is awesome and I enjoy it too. It can be rough, but then it feels also much rewarding if you make it through to your destination. 😀

Speaking of big slabs around here. A night time ride on the Bruckner Expwy last year was one of the most adrenaline rich experiences I ever had. It's a lawless place at a furious speed. Though yes, it can feel safer than riding through many other places.

Hoping to see you back on the streets of Gotham sooner than later!
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Took the GTS on the highway last night just for fun. Lane split every day just to get where to be.

"Interstate, Bridges, and Lane Splitting"

Those are literally the only options (other than sit in traffic) when we live in a city
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If NY city roads and drivers are worse now than years ago I can only wonder how much shorter city residents life spans are compared to other major cities. It was nuts in the sixties and gradually worsened as the years passed by. I left the area 30 years ago and hope to never travel the city roads again.
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If NY city roads and drivers are worse now than years ago I can only wonder how much shorter city residents life spans are compared to other major cities. It was nuts in the sixties and gradually worsened as the years passed by. I left the area 30 years ago and hope to never travel the city roads again.
It's actually the opposite. Life expectancy in urban areas are about 3 years greater than those in rural areas and the divide is growing.

I sleep well knowing my mother is a 2 minute drive from an ambulance hall (public healthcare system), a 2-3 minute drive from a fire hall, and a 9 minute drive to her nearest hospital.

One of the biggest things hurting aging rural people are cardiovascular issues, where every second counts.

I took no formal riding lessons, just got on my bike I just bought and rode it home as a teenager in Toronto. If my dumb ass with no previous riding or even driving experience and underdeveloped teenage brain could figure it out, you'll probably be fine if you apply yourself a little bit. It's really not a big deal. Be defensive when you need to be, be aggressive when you need to be, that's it.

This summer I'll be riding in Rome, which everyone tells me will be chaotic... That's probably the part of my trip I'm looking forward to the most.
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It's actually the opposite. Life expectancy in urban areas are about 3 years greater than those in rural areas and the divide is growing.

I sleep well knowing my mother is a 2 minute drive from an ambulance hall (public healthcare system), a 2-3 minute drive from a fire hall, and a 9 minute drive to her nearest hospital.

One of the biggest things hurting aging rural people are cardiovascular issues, where every second counts.
you do you and I will do me , what is good for the goose is not always good for the gander. I do follow and agree with almost all you post, But I much prefer country living and riding over the city. Freedom to choose my desires over what others desire has served me well. Both the city and the country have their place and purpose, I can not visualize this world without both.
I took no formal riding lessons, just got on my bike I just bought and rode it home as a teenager in Toronto. If my dumb ass with no previous riding or even driving experience and underdeveloped teenage brain could figure it out, you'll probably be fine if you apply yourself a little bit. It's really not a big deal. Be defensive when you need to be, be aggressive when you need to be, that's it.

This summer I'll be riding in Rome, which everyone tells me will be chaotic... That's probably the part of my trip I'm looking forward to the most.
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Oh I wasn't commenting on where I'd rather live or not live... just saw your comment on lifespans and had had a conversation about that a week ago with a friend who flies out to rural areas for work, so it came to mind.
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Oh I wasn't commenting on where I'd rather live or not live... just saw your comment on lifespans and had had a conversation about that a week ago with a friend who flies out to rural areas for work, so it came to mind.
kk think we are good. Your experience with the Vespa Brand is far superior to my 6 months of Vespa ownership. I do respect what you do for those that love riding motorcycles.
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"Interstate, Bridges, and Lane Splitting"

Would be a great back tattoo.

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Nice video. I'm not sure if it's the choice of clips, but (to my surprise) it seems less congested than Vancouver.
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Nice video. I'm not sure if it's the choice of clips, but (to my surprise) it seems less congested than Vancouver.
I felt the same -- NYC didn't look so bad in terms of traffic.

Maybe it was the sunshine...
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I felt the same -- NYC didn't look so bad in terms of traffic.

Maybe it was the sunshine...
For more usual traffic in NYC, have a look at this clip. That doesn't look bad either, just a normal day in the city.

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For more usual traffic in NYC, have a look at this clip. That doesn't look bad either, just a normal day in the city.

Is this on a Vespa?

At least I'm sure it ain't a BMW R18 Laughing emoticon
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Is this on a Vespa?

At least I'm sure it ain't a BMW R18 Laughing emoticon
For sure. 😀

That was filmed from a bicycle. Some of that traffic is so tight that no PTW can get through.
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This was a great video! Inspires me to ride into NYC from central NJ. Look forward to more content! 🛵💨
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NYC traffic is quite navigable on two wheels, I've put almost 15k miles on my Beo over the past three years commuting from the northern suburbs and it's been fun.

But I'm done commuting. A minor spill in January due to a distracted driver who changed lanes into me on a bright, warm, sunny morning led me to two months of discomfort followed by rotator cuff surgery, which is no picnic. PT starts Tuesday.

It's made me contemplate how many impaired drivers there are on NYC roads. I don't have specific reason to suspect chemical impairment in my situation, but the overwhelming presence of marijuana smoke emanating from cars all over the city is enough to keep me off the streets.

NYC is devolving back into its '80's-era lawlessness and chaos. There's still a lot to like about it but in heavy traffic I'm staying off the streets on two wheels.
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NYC traffic is quite navigable on two wheels, I've put almost 15k miles on my Beo over the past three years commuting from the northern suburbs and it's been fun.

But I'm done commuting. A minor spill in January due to a distracted driver who changed lanes into me on a bright, warm, sunny morning led me to two months of discomfort followed by rotator cuff surgery, which is no picnic. PT starts Tuesday.

It's made me contemplate how many impaired drivers there are on NYC roads. I don't have specific reason to suspect chemical impairment in my situation, but the overwhelming presence of marijuana smoke emanating from cars all over the city is enough to keep me off the streets.

NYC is devolving back into its '80's-era lawlessness and chaos. There's still a lot to like about it but in heavy traffic I'm staying off the streets on two wheels.
Oh hell…really sorry to hear this, Juan. Obviously I grok your take on this, having dodged my share of vehicles in Gotham on two wheels, with and without an engine (although people pay much more attention to me on the Vespa than they ever bothered to on something pedal-powered). Hope your PT goes well; I'm in my second stage of in-patient PT for about another week, then continue at home, and happily can report decent progress.
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Hey there, it's been a while since I posted, but seeing the video of the ride to Yankee Stadium reminded me of my ride to and from Citi Field today, featuring the 1964 Worlds Fairgrounds in NYC.
Wow…lovely photo, and period-correct scoot to boot!
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