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Hi All! Im looking at buying my first Vespa and would like to know the right questions to ask the seller. They have a 2002 Vespa ET2 50 with only 300 miles on it. We are a 7 hour drive apart but have a relative that can drive it to me when they visit. What should I be asking the seller and what red flags should I be looking for. Thanks in advance for you insight.
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Were the 300miles put on in 2002 or 2022?

Does it run?

Did it ever get a service?

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Not sure when the miles were put on but I'd guess in its early years as he said he bought it in 2004. So probably the second owner. He says in the post that it fires right up and I'll definitely ask about service and clean title. Assuming everything thing is on the up & up and clean what would be a fair price on something like this?
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Thanks for the welcome!!!...and Im in the US if that factors into pricing.
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If you have the license plate, call the DMV and ask if there is back registration penalties due. Here in California, it is super common for people to buy a scooter and then let it sit for a decade-plus in their garage. If they ignore the annual DMV fee, they will owe the maximum of 3 years of registration fees + penalties, which is always right around $300-ish for all 3 years of registration combined + around $700-ish in penalties combined = $900 to $1000 total. For 20+ year old scooters that are only worth $1000, this makes them either 1) worth parts only or 2) worth selling to a sucka. Even though the old seller incurred the penalties and back registration, the new buyer is responsible to pay those fees (in California).
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In great shape 2-3k is a fair price.
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with an ET2 condition is everything. mint, with some tasteful upgrades might get toward 3K. very presentable with fresh tires and tags around 2K.

double check for DMV back fees.
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Great advice so far!

Regarding tires and belts...how many years can the rubber just be sitting around before it should be replaced. I see this as a safety issue.
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Handle468Low wrote:
Great advice so far!

Regarding tires and belts...how many years can the rubber just be sitting around before it should be replaced. I see this as a safety issue.
6~7 years is generally the manufacturers/industry guideline and most generally accept and adopt that. I'm sure there will be somebody along shortly to tell you that they rode their bike with 2007 tires until they wore out and got new ones.

it's up to you to decide what level of risk is acceptable.

personally I'd change anything over that threshold. same for the belt. same for the fuel and oil lines.
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All the rubber on this scoot is almost guaranteed to be original. The tires are old but not a lot of power on a 50cc so you could leave them without replacing. All the tubes inside the scooter would cost like 20 bucks to change (oil and gas lines) the belt and oil pump belt would be like 60.
If your pretty handy this replacement job would all take you a long afternoon and 150 to do without doing a tire change.
If the hoses seem bendable by hand and not too fragile, I would leave them alone. I would change the belt, oil pump belt and rollers before riding any more than a test ride.
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What is the owner asking for it? Does it have dents and scratches? Where are you located? I just sold two pristine ET 4s for $5000.00 for the pair.
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it's up to you to decide what level of risk is acceptable.
I'm a licensed skydiver and rock climber and enjoy and seek out high risk activities. I personally would not drive on 21 year old tires unless I keep the speed at human jogging speed and be prepared for a sudden tire failure.
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https://www.michelinman.com/motorcycle/tips-and-advice/advice-motorbike/when-should-i-change-my-motorbike-tyres

As a precaution, all tires that have not been replaced after ten years should be changed, even if they appear to be in a generally good condition and have not reached their tread wear limit.
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