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I took my Gigi in for the 12K service and set of tires. They had trouble getting the correct air filter, so they ordered a foam blank and cut it to fit. Day one was rear tires and 12/15k service with a temporary filter. We returned for front tires and the custom-cut filter a few days later. Since then, she really struggles to hit a max indicated speed of 82, not the usual "oops I hit the rev-limiter again" at 88/89ish. My husband's received a 15k checkup, the same new filter, and has the same results. My gut says it's the filter, as they were wonky after the first day of service and are worse now.

Here's my "I don't know sh!t question": Are there two filters, an airbox, and an intake filter? Is the new filter too dense, or over-saturated? I know how to remove the airbox cover, but I don't know what to look for or how to fix the loss of power issue once I'm in there.

Lastly, will they be okay to ride at AmeriVespa's mellow speeds? Huge group rides are almost always ponderous, but I don't want permanent damage to our favorite rides.

These are my reference images; I only see one filter, but what do I know?

https://www.scooterwest.com/vespa-super-gts-300-2015-2018-crankcase-1.html

https://www.scooterwest.com/vespa-gts-300-intake-throttle-body-2010-2019.html
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Take the filter off and run it a couple of test miles without any filter. Is it better without any filter.? There's your answer. Get the correct filter.
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Take the filter off and run it a couple of test miles without any filter. Is it better without any filter.? There's your answer. Get the correct filter.
I thought about doing just that, but I didn't know if running sans filter was a big no-no.
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OK for a short ride as long as you are on good sealed roads - no dust.
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This looks to be an OEM filter, not homemade. So, I ask again, is there another filter somewhere?
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This looks to be an OEM filter, not homemade. So, I ask again, is there another filter somewhere?
Yes, #7
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Yes, #7
but that won't affect the engine. that's just letting cooling air into the transmission
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This looks to be an OEM filter, not homemade. So, I ask again, is there another filter somewhere?
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Cool. Now, can I leave both open for a brief, relatively dust free, ride around the block?
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Cool. Now, can I leave both open for a brief, relatively dust free, ride around the block?
that blue one is the cvt filter - not relevant to your problem. but if you want, yes you could go for a ride without it. look for some fast roads as that is when you are experiencing your issue
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I have a slow road that I can go fast on. Since everything I've seen looks normal, I'm thinking I have another problem.
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I'm thinking I have another problem.
you said two trips to the mechanic. Do you know if there was a problem after the first trip or didn't get a chance between the two trips? Also what was done during the first trip - belt and rollers - do you know 100% what part numbers where installed eg wrong rollers?
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Yes, she was a little hesitant after the first service. We didn't hit the freeway on the way home, so I couldn't say about the top speed. The second service, I hit the freeway back and she wasn't quite right.

The 12k doesn't include belt and rollers.
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The 12k doesn't include belt and rollers.
so what did it include? Does it say on the bill / invoice or are you assuming based on what the schedule says should be done? I personally don't stick the schedule
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Got back from the test run without a filter, and I'm pleased to report that 0-70 is good. I really can't go any faster without heading for the freeway. No to put her back together for another test.

I'm also very pleased that the Death wobble is nowhere to be found. After wobbling for years, it so nice not to deal with it anymore. We'll see how many miles she'll get before it happens again. Let's hope never!
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Got back from the test run without a filter, and I'm pleased to report that 0-70 is good. I really can't go any faster without heading for the freeway. No to put her back together for another test.

I'm also very pleased that the Death wobble is nowhere to be found. After wobbling for years, it so nice not to deal with it anymore. We'll see how many miles she'll get before it happens again. Let's hope never!
nothing in that list that I'd expect to affect performance. maybe it was jsut the good 'ol evap crap?
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The rear tire is not rubbing, is it? Rotate it by hand with the engine off to see if it's dragging for part of a rotation. That can feel like hesitation.

Good luck.
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The rear tire is not rubbing, is it? Rotate it by hand with the engine off to see if it's dragging for part of a rotation. That can feel like hesitation.

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Funny you should say that. When they replaced the rear tire and put everything back together, the brake pads were touching at three spots in a single rotation. Tick, tick, pause, tick.

Also, the rear brakes now slid rather than stopped, so they tried cleaning and deglazing with no effect. They ended up installing new pads (for a fee), which solved the problem.

I'll report back in a bit when I have the filter back in and have gone for another run.
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if the problem persists I just had another thought. the exhaust will have been removed to replaced the rear tire and the exhaust gasket/bushing might now need replacing
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I'm familiar with that issue and the bushing was replaced at 10k. My husband's Vespa had it replaced last week.

It is possible that it was out of place a touch and has since self-corrected. When the bushing went bad, the EFI took about 24 hours to adjust. After it got over sputtering and stalling, the scoot ran fine but sounded like I'd installed an Akrapovic.
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The only other thing I can think of is that they over-oiled the air filter foam. You can just take it out and gently squeeze it out over something that will catch drips of oil. It needs to be oily but not soaking with oil.

Is the oil level correct in the engine - not overfilled? I believe you have to unscrew the dipstick, wipe it and then screw it in all the way, then unscrew it and read the level. That should be in your owner's manual. There's also a dipstick for the rear gear reduction. That one is between the bottom end of the left shock absorber and the rear wheel, on top of the cast aluminum case. It can be tough to unscrew, but it does come out that way. The owner's manual should have that, too. If they are overfilled there can be some drag on the engine.
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Thanks, wentwest. The filter wasn't saturated or heavy with oil. As far as lubrication goes, I check both engine and hub oils on a regular basis but haven't since the service. I'll check them tomorrow.
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Is it a higher profile tyre that rotates less at the same actual speed?
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Yes, it's a 130/70 12, which replaced a 120/70 12. I'd only ridden with the stock size until now. Why would tire size cause wonky hesitation, poor acceleration and an inability to reach the rev limit/top speed? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Yes, it's a 130/70 12, which replaced a 120/70 12. I'd only ridden with the stock size until now. Why would tire size cause wonky hesitation, poor acceleration and an inability to reach the rev limit/top speed? Inquiring minds want to know.
130/70-12 is standard on a GTS rear. 120/70-12 is standard front for a GTS.

a change in rear tire size is the same as a change in gears
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Hmmm... I was pretty sure there was a 120/70 on the rear. Maybe I can find a good tire pic for proof either way.

Edit: I think I have the receipt of purchase. I'll get back to you on that.
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Yes, it's a 130/70 12, which replaced a 120/70 12. I'd only ridden with the stock size until now. Why would tire size cause wonky hesitation, poor acceleration and an inability to reach the rev limit/top speed? Inquiring minds want to know.
Is it asr calibration?
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Pretty sure a 2013 doesn't have ASR.
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everybody pretty much nailed it-- you've all been paying attention in class! gold stars!

my suspicion would be that the air box is not properly sealed. there's a small gasket on the lip of the lid that sometimes gets jostled or pinched. occasionally the filter will get pinched as well, but that doesn't look the case there.

when you had it apart, did you pull the filter out of the housing? how's the other side look and how's the hosing look? sometimes you can get a bunch of build up in there.

I'd give a hairy eyeball to the intake tract and make sure you don't have any thing cracked and sucking air.

did they do a plug or have you done one recently or at all?

anyway, the CVT filter is inconsequential. honestly, you could just throw it out.
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Different foam filters have different densities and can allow more or less air through. I bought a Malossi filter for my Aprilia with a Leader motor and it was really loosely woven foam. I guess this could affect the mix and thus performance. Just my random guess.
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Was this the engine oil they used ? Mineral !!
If so that's not good
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Was this the engine oil they used ? Mineral !!
If so that's not good
Not going to affect performance.

Tire pressure can. What did they do for 12k service? Did they get into the belt and rollers?
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Yes, it's a 130/70 12, which replaced a 120/70 12. I'd only ridden with the stock size until now. Why would tire size cause wonky hesitation, poor acceleration and an inability to reach the rev limit/top speed? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Yes, it's a 130/70 12, which replaced a 120/70 12. I'd only ridden with the stock size until now. Why would tire size cause wonky hesitation, poor acceleration and an inability to reach the rev limit/top speed? Inquiring minds want to know.
It won't.
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For those wanting to know what was done, see the invoice posted above.
The belt and rollers were done at 10K.

The plug was at the recommended interval, but I can't remember exactly when. It is a little worn, but only a little, and it should have plenty of life left.

The air filter is clean on both sides, along with the airbox. I don't spy any cracks or obstructions.

Either way, my last test ride with the airbox fully assembled, was perfect up to an indicated 75 mph. No hesitation or stumbling was detected.

I think Gigi likes to mess with me to keep me on my toes. Razz emoticon
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Guzzi Gal. You didn't say if they sprayed the filter with air filter oil such as Fab1. It could affect air intake is it's sprayed on too thick. In you Southwest dusty environment, it's important (IMO) to use such an oil on the air filter to catch small dust particle. You only need a thin coating. Robot talks about this in his GTS250 service video, prolly other videos too but that's where I first saw it used.

I've been using for years on my Vespa, 23 yo BMW MC and 30 yo Honda tractor without a problem.

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Guzzi Gal. You didn't say if they sprayed the filter with air filter oil such as Fab1. It could affect air intake if it's sprayed on too thick. In your Southwest dusty environment, it's important (IMO) to use such an oil on the air filter to catch small dust particles. You only need a thin coating. Robot talks about this in his GTS250 service video, prolly other videos too but that's where I first saw it used.

I've been using for years on my Vespa, 23 yo BMW MC and 30 yo Honda tractor without a problem.

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The oil filter hasn't ever gotten visibly dirty as I haven't ridden in a haboob (dust storm). I don't know what they cleaned and recharged it with, but it isn't saturated.

Happily, Gigi has righted herself and is running well again.
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