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Hi everyone, new to the forum. Man I miss these! Anyway, I have a Piaggio 150 Fly I bought that keeps stalling and now won't even start. Seems to be a known issue. I took it to a shop, paid $500 for a clean carb, new spark plug and vacuum hose. That hurt. Rode it once or twice now it's stalling/dead again.

I figured I'd do what you've told so many others to do and take out that evap system. Well, it doesn't have one. It's been taken out, I can see where the hardware that held parts of it are still attached.

What I did find were two hoses that don't seem to be attached to much; A skinny yellow one that came right out, I don't think it was attached to anything, and a fat black one that says Fuel Emission that is definitely attached on one end up near my gas tank where it fills.

Other than having to put all this together again, I can't see where this fuel emission line reconnects. Any ideas? Thanks.
Fuel emission line
Fuel emission line
Not sure what this was
Not sure what this was
No cannisters for the evap
No cannisters for the evap
Missing evap part #2
Missing evap part #2
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Is it stalling because of evap/lack of fuel issues? Or something else?

Easy way to figure that out is to make a dummy tank and connect it to the carb. If that works, then you know it's the hoses/fuel tap.
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so the line marked "emissions" is the vent for the tank. disregard that, it connects to nothing.

now, onto more interesting items.... colored circles!

all of these are vacuum lines or connections.

yellowcircle: fuel tap. the "clear line" is vacuum, the black is fuel. now if you follow that thru the sheath you'll see it pops out where the green circle is. that connects to a T fitting in the red circle. the fuel dips right into the carb inlet, and traveling upward (to 12 o'clock) is the vacuum line to the SAS system. you can just see it's connection at the 7 o'clock position of the yellow circle. the line continues from the red circle to the blue circle at the manifold.

okay now that we've identified the suspects... check out that vacuum line-- it sucks (pause for groaning laughter). all kidding aside it looks suspect and is more than likely broken at or near the green circle. also, that and the SAS line are 100% original and well past their sell by date. I'm guessing the line from the T to the manifold is as well, and it appears it doesn't even have a clamp on it.

this is some sloppy, low rent work. they swapped your manifold and didn't do the vacuum lines and the new fuel line appears to have a zip tie instead of a clamp.

replace all your vacuum lines. you can choose to eliminate the SAS and just run direct to the manifold port from the fuel tap (yellow to blue without a layover in T-town), and just cap the SAS up where the port is.

while you're doing that, check the fuel line has proper clamps and test the operation of the fuel tap. fresh clamps for all the vacuum lines as well.

I'm betting this is the source of your problems. and if not, that all needed to get done before repairing whatever the underlying issue is.

go forth. do work. report back.
buzz buzz I'm a fly
buzz buzz I'm a fly
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This sounds like something my mechanic should've done when it was in 2 weeks ago, that I paid for already. What a pain in the SS. At least it's all still disassembled. Thanks greasy125. I'll keep you posted on how it's going.

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