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Agreed, but it just can't seem to get any serious coverage can it ?

It's almost a niche.
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Horner cleared of any wrong doing.

Who saw that coming ?
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Teflon's got away with it then
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I don't think that he actually did anything wrong.

I think that a snowflake took exception to his management style.
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I think that a snowflake took exception to his management style.
Bill, speaking as one white male to another: people who denigrate others as "snowflakes" are usually white male assholes. It's rarely a good look.

Be a better man.
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Hmmmmm Fair. I'll suggest that a more sensitive member of the team didn't react to his somewhat curt manner and saw an opportunity.

I'll also suggest that the Press are pissing in the wind.
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^^^^^^ ROFL emoticon ^^^^^^^
That's better put Mr. Dog,
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While the finer details of the matter continue to be kept behind closed doors, the story is unlikely to completely evaporate, Mud Sticks.

There have been rumblings of intra-team politics at play, involving the likes of Verstappen's father Jos and senior advisor Helmut Marko, as well as talk of Salzburg wanting to wrestle back more control from the racing base in Milton Keynes.

WATCH THIS SPACE. The Snofl Facepalm emoticon Ooops The lady of fragile and timid disposition has the right of appeal or even if backed can take a case to court.
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My belief that Jos and Helmut were trying to get rid of Mr Horner has proven unfounded because this would have given them an ideal opportunity to do so.

A cynic would suggest that if a particularly fragile individual who had never been conversed with in a brisk fashion and was new to an incredibly competitive environment may well feel aggrieved about the way they had been treated and thus be inclined to seek compensation. However, they seemed to have shit out of luck this time.

Heat and Kitchen possibly.

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And while we're at it what the Hell is Jim Farley banging on about when the logos aren't even on the side of the cars yet ?

That's not a good way to start a relationship.
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Just watched the Brawn GP series (4 episodes) about the $1 management buyout and their winning the World Championship and the Drivers Championship in their first and only year of 2009.
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I said watch this space Wha? emoticon , then this just popped up.
Christian Horner facing further scrutiny after alleged messages are leaked.

Just 24 hours later, hundreds of messages and a number of images apparently between Horner and the complainant were sent from an anonymous email account to members of the Formula One paddock – including FIA president Mohamed ben Sulayem, F1 CEO Stefano Domenicali and the grid's nine other team principals, as well as the media – on the eve of this weekend's season-opening Bahrain Grand Prix.

Shit'll hit the fan now, especially about the Investigation Clap emoticon .
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What The? emoticon Fck.. Well planned on the eve of the new season, In less than an Hour most major race blogs are reporting it and most media.
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It's a shitshow alright.
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It's a shitshow alright.
This has all the hallmarks of the Carlos Ghosn ousting from Renault-Nissan.

Mateschitz is now no longer at the helm/in the frame, so someone wants Horner's job.
A guy I talked to yesterday lays this all at the feet of convicted wife-beater and generally nasty Jos Verstappen.
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I'm trying to visualise Christian Horner being smuggled out of Red Bull HQ in a flight case

Yeah, someone's on a mission aren't they and you never know it might just work.

Do you think that the whole thing was a set up ?
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I'm trying to visualise Christian Horner being smuggled out of Red Bull HQ in a flight case

Yeah, someone's on a mission aren't they and you never know it might just work.

Do you think that the whole thing was a set up ?
That is what the guy I was talking to last night thinks. Something to do with past friction between Horner and the Verstappens.
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That is what the guy I was talking to last night thinks. Something to do with past friction between Horner and the Verstappens.
And is this why Max has stayed mute through out.
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That's the thing with sex scandals, they tend to be believable and dare I say it understandable so difficult to deny, even if it's fabricated.

You'll believe it because you want to as someone else is higher up than you is suffering, and that's great.
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I would think the other 9 principles will now be calling for Horner to be suspended.
And when the FIA issued a statement saying that it was a full and fair investigation, now images and texts have leaked, there will be a lot of red faces about today.
Also interesting to see what the likes of Ford have to say.
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I'll throw this out there. The evidence has been broadcast to the four winds because the enquiry didn't get the result they wanted.

The problem is when you become more desperate you'll eventually expose yourself.
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I'll throw this out there. The evidence has been broadcast to the four winds because the enquiry didn't get the result they wanted.
Who is "they" in this context? The accuser? FIA?
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Jim Farley's outburst was more about Red Bull being a little secretive about what was going on so I think he was feeling left out.

And the act of self elevation was pretty obvious.
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Here's a prediction. Horner gets engineered out the door and because Newey and him are Besties he leaves soon after as a protest as I believe their contracts are linked.

Without 2 of their Kingpins the whole thing starts to fall apart and Ford are left holding the baby.
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Who is "they" in this context? The accuser? FIA?
Jos Verstappen
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Here's a prediction. Horner gets engineered out the door and because Newey and him are Besties he leaves soon after as a protest as I believe their contracts are linked.

Without 2 of their Kingpins the whole thing starts to fall apart and Ford are left holding the baby.
Possibly this could be engineered by a rival team. Thats sounds a bit far fetched but...🤔
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Jim Farley's outburst was more about Red Bull being a little secretive about what was going on so I think he was feeling left out.

And the act of self elevation was pretty obvious.
Never heard of Jim Farley but the fact he is interested about the progress sounds dodgy already.🧐

Unless he thinks the engine agreement will be worthless without Newey and is having second thoughts.

Nobody seemed worried in the past if Flabio had a bit on the side?
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Do you mean Flavio Briatore ? Both him and Craig Pollock are as dodgy as you can get.

If it didn't look like an agenda before the enquiry it certainly does now.

Whoever it was they knew all of the email addresses of anyone whose anyone within the pit lane so I'd suggest it's come from within the team because who else had access to it ?

I think that's a very fair point about Newey because he's not going to be there forever is he ?

Edit - English media have received messages saying that if they publish the contents of the leaked document they will be sued.
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🤔Mmmm, I can understand that, wouldn't want my todger splashed across the front pages.
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🤔Mmmm, I can understand that, wouldn't want my todger splashed across the front pages.
Does this mean we now know that it isn't about someone feeling bad about getting yelled at? Haven't seen anything specific yet, although I admit I haven't dug very deep.
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Does this mean we now know that it isn't about someone feeling bad about getting yelled at? Haven't seen anything specific yet, although I admit I haven't dug very deep.
Christian Horner facing further scrutiny after alleged messages are leaked.

Just 24 hours later, hundreds of messages and a number of images apparently between Horner and the complainant were sent from an anonymous email account to members of the Formula One paddock – including FIA president Mohamed ben Sulayem, F1 CEO Stefano Domenicali and the grid's nine other team principals, as well as the media – on the eve of this weekend's season-opening Bahrain Grand Prix.

Shit'll hit the fan now, especially about the Investigation Clap emoticon .

And now one national paper stating they have viewed the images and are of a sexual nature.
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Back to the part of F1 I prefer, the racing.

First qualifying of the season in Bahrain and more of the same.

Max in Red Bull on pole with Charles a bit behind in second in his Ferrari.

I guess we already know that Max will win, and I am guessing that Checco will use the old Honda powertrain, RBPT, to move up to take second tomorrow.

I will watch anyway, hoping that I am wrong.

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I'm thinking of Geri at this tough time.

Actually I'm not. I can't back that up.
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My todger is also tabloid Clown emoticon
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I'm starting to change my stance on this.

Do you think that he was "Honeypotted" ?

Either by internal forces or as a consequence of retribution ?
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I'm starting to change my stance on this.

Do you think that he was "Honeypotted" ?
Is it really so hard to believe that he got into this mess of his own accord?
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Simple he's had no SPICE life, had a mid life, gone off with another man's wife, got cought out and buggered his life ROFL emoticon

Fifty Shades of Grey moment Wha? emoticon .
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I'm starting to change my stance on this.

Do you think that he was "Honeypotted" ?

Either by internal forces or as a consequence of retribution ?
I think, as said before, it is a Carlos Ghosn situation.
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I have to admit I didn't want to believe in the story at first because I couldn't believe that someone that intelligent could make such a misjudgement but the more I hear, the more disappointed I feel.

It's kind of looking like a "Hell hath no fury like a women scorned" kind of scenario isn't it.
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