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Antonio,

Antonio who ?

Exactly.
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Antonio who ?

Exactly.
He's poor by F1 standards, but has won Le Mans…
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Pshaw. Every Tom, Renaud, and Enrico can win a Le Mans race.
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Jake, if your argument is that Lance Stroll deserves a crack at Le Mans because some failed F1 drivers have done well there, it's not a good one.

He's at Aston Martin because his rich Daddy owns the team and not because of his incredible talent. Sorry, lack of incredible talent.

Once Lawrence loses interest and sells up completely his little soldier's career will be finished as no one will tolerate his rudeness and his lack of self awareness.

He's an embarrassment.
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He's at Aston Martin because his rich Daddy owns the team and not because of his incredible talent. Sorry, lack of incredible talent.
Agreed that he has the seat because of nepotism. That said, I don't think he's the worst F1 driver on the grid by any stretch. He's just... solidly mediocre. Mostly competent, but decidedly unremarkable. It's not like he didn't put in his time in the junior series -- he acquitted himself reasonably well in his junior career. Otherwise he never would have been allowed on the grid, even with all of Daddy's billions.

But he'll never, ever be a champion.
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Once Lawrence loses interest and sells up completely his little soldier's career will be finished as no one will tolerate his rudeness and his lack of self awareness.
I think winning a world championship is Lawrences dream, not Lances. Lance seemed to perform well at Williams where nothing was really expected of him - he reminds me of Albon in that regard, crumbling at a top team but excelling in a low pressure environment.

I don't think Lance is world championship material, but a Newey assisted Le Mans win in 2025 would have helped to boost his credibility, before a return to the sport in 2026.

Sainz did say that every team without a confirmed driver had physically offered him a contract a couple of weeks ago, and I do wonder if he was offered a 1 year deal from Aston.

I'm also curious as well as to whether the Le Mans entry is an attempt to attract Newey to Aston. They're just about to setup their brand new wind tunnel - the most advanced in F1, paid for before the budget cap kicked in. He'd be working alongside Dan Fallows, who was his main number 2 at Red Bull, and I'm sure Lawrence would write a blank cheque.
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Newey was heavily involved with the design of the Valkyrie so you've got that arse about face.

There's more chance of Newey going to Ferrari and designing another WEC car than Lance racing at Le Mans.
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Alpines starting in 8th and 9th. Interesting.
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Jos,who totalled a rally car during the Ypres Rally.

Still got it.
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Jos,who totalled a rally car during the Ypres Rally.

Still got it.
He already won some rally's
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Think his son is destroying Norris like he did with Perez
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Ricciardo finishes 9th.

Haas got two points finishes.

Aston Martin win the Spa 24 hours.
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Pshaw. Every Tom, Renaud, and Enrico can win a Le Mans raceknockoff?
My soccer coach, at the Paris American School, St. Cloud.....had a friend on Ford's successful 1966 team at Le Mans. He had a pit pass and came back with some great photos!
(all of the teachers at this K>12 school were Americans, save for our 200 yr old French teacher. School was constructed to serve the growing number of American dependents of military or embassy or NATO/SHAPE staff members.
My high school 4 yrs there. Skipped school SO often to wander Paris with a couple Francs in my pocket. Our senior class prom was in the Jules Verne, 2nd stage of the Eiffel Tower. Then half of us went to the Lido, or the Moulin Rouge, then to Les Halles for a warm Coke and onion soup at daybreak.
For decades - we all have shared the same experience: no one ever believes one word of our senior prom story!
The officer's wives booked that prom in the Tower 4 yrs in advance.

O.S.

Ps, I've learned never to share that story with my grand kids....as they decorate their gym for their prom. Then it's off to all night bowling.
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About a 15 sec gap to McLaren , so not so great
Max still wins , 69 points more than norris
And again at his home track 😂👍 really needs to keep his shoulders in when a driver who will stand a challenge is within DRS
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I think they were both pissed off because one had a bad pit stop and the other got a 5 second penalty (which was given much too late).
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why did norris drive so fast to the pits
he demolished his car, Max also had a flat tire and he set the fastest lap with that car
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Call me old fashioned but I'd suggest that he was a bit annoyed and not exactly thinking clearly.

I think we've all been there.
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I think they were both pissed off because one had a bad pit stop and the other got a 5 second penalty (which was given much too late).
In addition to the 10 second penalty, Max has also been given two points on his super license for causing the collision.

Several commentators have mentioned that what transpired yesterday was "the old Max" -- aggressor, rule-breaker, bully. But this is actually the same Max as we saw in 2021 -- it's just that in the intervening years, nobody has been close enough to actually challenge him. Now that he is being challenged again by McLaren, we see what happens when someone actually gets close enough to the front to be a threat -- Max gets desperate, and is willing to destroy both cars rather than concede a place, just as he did against Lewis Hamilton in 2021, when Mercedes was last competitive.

Max is unquestionably a very talented driver. But he is also unquestionably a bully in a fast car.
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^^^^Very true ^^^^ just like his old fella,
The slow motion said it all.
The RB is at full performance, now several other teams are catching up and Max doesn't like it also listen to the radio comms his old excuses are frequently coming back.
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also listen to the radio comms his old excuses are frequently coming back.
The team radio where GP and Horner tell Max that it was all Lando's fault is sickening to hear. I've completely lost any remaining respect I might have had for Red Bull.
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Just going to leave this here to ward off any attempts at defending Max's behavior here.

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Three Brits at the front of the grid.

What are Ferrari going to do with Leclerc?
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What are Ferrari going to do with Leclerc?
What is RB going to do with Perez? Facepalm emoticon
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What are Ferrari going to do with Leclerc?
He got Strolled. ROFL emoticon
That's got to sting.
That's got to sting.
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What are Ferrari going to do with Leclerc?
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What is RB going to do with Perez? Facepalm emoticon
What is Hamilton going to do with Ferrari? Popcorn emoticon
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Food for thought: Logan Sargeant has out-qualified Sergio Perez on no less than 7 occasions during this 2024 season.

So the worst driver on the grid in (arguably) the worst car on the grid has out-qualified the second driver of the (arguably) best car on the grid in 7 out of 12 races.

Funny, that.
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I will say again: I don't believe that any current F1 driver born anywhere in North America deserves the seat they are currently occupying.
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That was a proper exciting race!
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Naturally, as a Brit, Silverstone has always been my favourite race - it certainly topped any of the previous ones! Six cars from four teams in real contention the whole way round.
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Six cars from four teams in real contention the whole way round.
This. I would have even been pleased if Max had eventually overtaken the lead. Not as pleased, but still satisfied that it was a proper race.
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