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I dunno. I think Lando Norris to Mercedes makes more sense at this specific moment.
why would Lando leave and go to a lesser performing team? He is beating the hell out of either Mercedes week in and week out.

McClaren has made huge advancements the last 2 years and Mercedes has made huge declines
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why would Lando leave and go to a lesser performing team? He is beating the hell out of either Mercedes week in and week out.
Because it is becoming clear that Lando is not the #1 driver at McLaren.

And Mercedes in 2026 might very well be the team to beat.

Or not.
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I'm not convinced that either driver is being shown any bias at McLaren and it's refreshing to see. However I think it's going to count against them at the end of the year.

Zak Brown just wants to rub Christian Horner's face in it while winning some races at the same time.

I don't think he cares which driver he does it with either, which may cost him.

I was a bit surprised to see both pilots with faces like slapped arses post race when they both got on the podium and scored points.
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Ollie Bearman reported as driving for Haas at the next round. True?
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Ollie Bearman reported as driving for Haas at the next round. True?
yes as a replacement for KM as he has a 1 race ban for penalty points
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yes as a replacement for KM as he has a 1 race ban for penalty points
True dat.

https://apnews.com/article/f1-haas-oliver-bearman-734f47c596226ffa0df6b4031573d094

Notably, this makes Ollie one of the very few relief drivers to have driven for two different teams in a single season.
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Different teams, same power unit. Might get a 10th out of it.

Prema Racing are now using both of their drivers.

Paul Tracy has 3 cracked vertebrae.
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Newey signs to Aston Martin in shock move.
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Not really much of a shock.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/c4gqd8lz9g1o
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Imagine they are paying you 30 Million a year to design "One" car.
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Imagine they are paying you 30 Million a year to design "One" car.
Imagine a businessman that is so desensitized by his own wealth that he needs to win F1 in order to get off.
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Do you think that he really believes that his son, in the right equipment can win ?
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Do you think that he really believes that his son, in the right equipment can win ?
Yes.

Or, more precisely, I believe that Lawrence Stroll is doing the same thing he has always done: spend whatever is necessary to buy Lance a win.

He bought Prema. He bought Aston Martin. Now he's bought Adrian Newey.

He might buy F1 itself next.
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Fair.

I just wish that Newey had just walked away from the Sport while he was still at the top.

I guess it's going to give us something to talk about.
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Imagine a businessman that is so desensitized by his own wealth that he needs to win F1 in order to get off.
Toto Wolff is a billionaire whose son went karting with George Russell recently. Will we see that kid on the grid in 15 years?
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Toto Wolff is a billionaire whose son went karting with George Russell recently. Will we see that kid on the grid in 15 years?
Will we see Toto Wolff running Mercedes in 15 years? Seems unlikely.

Seems even less likely that he would hire his son to be one of the drivers. Unless, of course, said son was genuinely the next Max Verstappen.

I hold it as self-evident that Lance Stroll isn't the next Max Verstappen.
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I hold it as self-evident that Lance Stroll isn't the next Max Verstappen.
As a driver, I fully agree, but as an asshole he's off to a pretty good start.
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As a driver, I fully agree, but as an asshole he's off to a pretty good start.
They do share that notable trait!
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Seems even less likely that he would hire his son to be one of the drivers. Unless, of course, said son was genuinely the next Max Verstappen.

I hold it as self-evident that Lance Stroll isn't the next Max Verstappen.
Wait what? your saying Max is a decent driver? my heads spinning and I am not drinking either.
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Wait what? your saying Max is a decent driver? my heads spinning and I am not drinking either.
I've always acknowledged that Max is an excellent driver. But he is also eminently unlikeable and prone to crashtantrums when someone (Lewis, usually) is beating him.
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I've always acknowledged that Max is an excellent driver. But he is also eminently unlikeable and prone to crashtantrums when someone (Lewis, usually) is beating him.
that s fair.
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Now this is interesting.

Off the top of my head, here is a list of things that I can prove were better in the past: music, art, baseball, camping, bars, politics, streetlights, movies, roadtrips, sex, my neighborhood, stand-up, the internet, France…the list goes on.

If we live long enough, everything was better in the past. And for us, it really was. But even as we were busy loving those things in their now-vanished golden state, there were older people who hated the things we loved and saw them as corrupt versions of what had once been.

And as we speak, there are people thoroughly enjoying the current versions of music, art, baseball, camping, bars…
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I think that you are being harsh on France.
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I think that you are being harsh on France.
They have only themselves to blame.
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I'm being ironic.
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Goddammit, so was I.
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Interesting comments across the media today.

Mike Krack said Alonso offered up to 20% of his salary to secure Newey for the team.

Alonso also has an open ended contract (it's up to him to decide if he races or retires), but has stated that he will be racing beyond the 2026 season.

McLaren have decided to favour Norris but he's unlikely to score points tomorrow! If Leclerc wins (not improbable), and Lando fails to score (not improbable), Leclerc will overtake Lando for P2 in the drivers.

Also lots of talk of "Red Bull struggling", but if you look at Checo in isolation, he's been getting stronger and stronger with the latest updates - extremely close to Max in both qualifying pace and race pace, it seems it's mostly Max struggling with the car direction.
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And Gasly is disqualified from qualifying due to a fuel flow infringement, in case anyone cares….some folks can't catch a break
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Williams 9th and 10th.
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Stunning drives all around.
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Williams in 7th and 8th.

Bearman gets a point ahead of his Team Mate.

McLaren ahead in the Constructors.
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