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I need a complete set of pads on my MP3 400. From your experience, would you all go with OEM pads or the EBC pads or I have some Sixity pads in my possession. Thank you in advance
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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EBC or OEM always. and use the standard organic ones, don't go for those race sintered ones as they wear the rotors faster and they also don't last very long. Racers use them but they also replace them quite frequently .
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Later MP3s use sintered pads as factory equipped.

They last a long time without being too aggressive on the rotor.

The organic pads from the early MP3 wore out at an alarming rate.
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old as dirt wrote:
EBC or OEM always. and use the standard organic ones, don't go for those race sintered ones as they wear the rotors faster and they also don't last very long. Racers use them but they also replace them quite frequently .
I am not a mechanic and a mechanic advised me to use the sentered as they last longer because they have more metal in them, so I used them for my last MP3, What you stated is the opposite of what I was informed.

My assumption for racers replace them often is that the way of riding (track) which is not the same as regular riding, what I mean is riding at higher speeds, then slowing at curves and back to high speed which is different from city driving.

I hope you can explain more if my analysis is wrong.
thanks,
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abcdef wrote:
I am not a mechanic and a mechanic advised me to use the sentered as they last longer because they have more metal in them, so I used them for my last MP3, What you stated is the opposite of what I was informed.

My assumption for racers replace them often is that the way of riding (track) which is not the same as regular riding, what I mean is riding at higher speeds, then slowing at curves and back to high speed which is different from city driving.

I hope you can explain more if my analysis is wrong.
thanks,
use what you want. IDC
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Check for aftermarket ones from Melossi or Fereodo. These are both very good brands and cost like a third of the price compared to EOM.
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abcdef wrote:
I am not a mechanic and a mechanic advised me to use the sentered as they last longer because they have more metal in them, so I used them for my last MP3, What you stated is the opposite of what I was informed.

I hope you can explain more if my analysis is wrong.
thanks,
Most heavy, high displacement and/or fast bikes come with sintered pads from the factory. Sintered pads got a bad reputation when they first came out, in the very early 1960s, because they ate through the cast iron discs in widespread use at the time. In the 1980s, most manufacturers began to transition to stainless steel discs, and the wear problem went away. As long as you don't replace your front discs with something off a 1975 Honda CB750, you won't notice a difference in terms of how the discs wear, but you will have better, more consistent braking, less fade, and longer lasting pads.

It's a lot like the stories you still hear about synthetic motor oil leaking past main seals. It did when main seals were made of rope. People who believe sintered brake pads wear brake disks sooner are correct, if the bike was made in 1974 and still has cast iron brake disks.
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Motovista wrote:
Most heavy, high displacement and/or fast bikes come with sintered pads from the factory. Sintered pads got a bad reputation when they first came out, in the very early 1960s, because they ate through the cast iron discs in widespread use at the time. In the 1980s, most manufacturers began to transition to stainless steel discs, and the wear problem went away. As long as you don't replace your front discs with something off a 1975 Honda CB750, you won't notice a difference in terms of how the discs wear, but you will have better, more consistent braking, less fade, and longer lasting pads.

It's a lot like the stories you still hear about synthetic motor oil leaking past main seals. It did when main seals were made of rope. People who believe sintered brake pads wear brake disks sooner are correct, if the bike was made in 1974 and still has cast iron brake disks.
Hi Thanks for your info, real good, so the mechanic stated correctly, currently I have Yamaha Tmax 2015 (530), I have the original Yamaha brake pads, do you recommend to use the sintered pads for it? I am sure the disk brake is not iron, cheers a lot,
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If the pads are gold or brass colored, they are sintered. That's probably what came stock on your bike. My Honda Silverwing came stock with sintered pads, and I'm pretty sure the Tmax does too.
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Motovista wrote:
If the pads are gold or brass colored, they are sintered. That's probably what came stock on your bike. My Honda Silverwing came stock with sintered pads, and I'm pretty sure the Tmax does too.
Thanks a lot, I will confirm the next time I change the brake pads, cheers,
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