Modern Vespa

i love how quickly this can spiral out of control. except that cm can definitely make the banshee cylinder work... so maybe it's in control?!?

for some reason I see something like this as your side piece:



I suppose in al-loo-mini-ummm would be cool, but style points if flat lavender.

Something 250 with a powervalve. KTM? That would be cool on something so old.

RD-350

Butcher Garage…

I run that drum on my VMC177 and it's pretty amazing. Grips very well.

+1 on the shitbox. Solid.

Greasy, no. Just no.
Would I suggest you turn your 'Cuda into an Oscar Meyer wiener mobile? I'm not a purist - but I am a connoisseur!

Jesus u guys. So much good stuff.
That everyone has their own vision only makes it better.

And when I say Jesus, I mean the welder for Butcher Garage - of course.

Speaking of BG: I think they are incredible fabricators - but their end product is somehow just not great in proportion.
The fit of the mud guard to the front wheel.
The rear of the scoot to the back wheel.

I'm a critic of S&S's cowl sitting too high also. Everyone has their own eye.

It's the front wheel fit to the mud guard, the rear wheels placement in the curve of the frame. Etc.

So I'm not a purist - but I love the best of what the eyetalians created.
I'll go 8" wheels - the wide frames just look so good when "low slung".
That's my vibe.

What power plant makes it go? I like powerful and reliable.
Gonna have to consider.

Like the front drum that works.
Novel.
So maybe.
Simple is good!

Good proportions ftw…

I agree with this. It all looks like amazing skill was involved, but it makes me feel like they try too hard, too over top.

In contrast, I like the subtlety of what John Gick does with his engine work he shows here. It looks hot rod but still looks low-key and more practical.

When i move forward on my 2nd wideframe VB1 project, i plan to use that SSC hydro disc kit.

Mounting a hydro master cylinder on a handle bar Vespa would be super easy. You could probably use just about any motorcycle/dirtbike brake master cylinder you wanted with (I'm guessing) a 10~11mm piston.

I was thinking the same thing. A bitchen reservoir to fit the theme of the scooter, and it'll help with stopping the bumper car or weinermobile sidecar...

That's the page I'm on too.
Great minds.
In fact - hydro clutch to match might be clean. Polished aluminum or chrome.
Not black.

Like the vote for the SSC disc.
Bonus: I want my sidecar wheel to operate off the FRONT brake.
Hydro would help.

Super entertaining thread and congrats on newest Italian Starlet baby and all that.

But I really just wanna say how cool your scoots look displayed on your vintagey floral rugs❤️

Ok…. now back to page 2…..

Ktm and Husky dirtbikes came with either Brembo (DOT 3) or Magura (mineral oil) hydro master cylinders. Over the years the MC cylinder bores are anywhere from a 9.5 to 11mm. It's pretty easy to find one used.

I drove halfway across the country, washed, scrubbed, pampered and placed - just so I could have as my background for any boring zoom calls - and all these guys wanna talk about are master cylinders.
Don't they know it's called a primary now any how?

😁

Thanks for the props.
Makes my space so much happier to hang in.
Close enough to my desk to let me ponder as I work.

Oh, and whodat - looking those up now.
Seems like alota choices for handlebar hydraulics. Nice!

it's 1/2 wiener mobile already-- it hauls balls!

I was thinking more like early 40's indy cars. so sort of the look of that bumper car. basically anything but the typical Tylenol shaped sidecars of everyday.

This is insanely expensive, but would look pretty on the handlebars.


https://www.officine08.com/p72347_front-brake-master-cylinder-25-4mm-roland-sands-9-16-radial-chrome.html

Time to put that lathe to use…

Oh.
(Rosan Rosanna Danna) Never Mind.

So there is precedent if that's the case.
The Germans built a sidecar that had those lines - looks very regal.
See below.

Ginch.
Your trouble.

I've got it!

rabbit holes:

Equalean sidecar
FLEXIT leaner sidecar

The cowl rubber between the sidecar wheel fender and the frame of the side car is a very nice understated touch there.

As long as we're spitballing, do you really need a side car?

How about a side box?

Or just a side shelf?

Or a trailer…

lol … he's into the lean thing, Chris. Trailer's more "whip".

Pet Carrier for Charlie?


But ya know... Custom!

screw that, he needs this:

Leftie

The correct side

Honey - I know you don't really ever ever wanna go in the sidecar, even just down to the pub, but what if I took a scoot from 1955, and hung a car off the oncoming traffic side.
Itl be so much fun!
🙂

You can be pretty persuasive when you want to be. If anyone can convince her, it'll be you!

I volunteer chandlerman as passenger for the test run

I'm down!

Waaaaaaay down

I literally almost edited my post within a couple minutes afterward to suggest this but then I thought I'd leave him out of this. I guess I should have known he'd be down for it though

I was thinking it'd be kind of cool to do a rotary valve on a set of wide body cases. then I thought why stop there, why not just make it a 4T with OHVs


Piaggio 4T prototype

That is a wild setup.

Ducati saw that and went: huh, interesting. hold my vino, I think I can make this more complicated...

and Piaggio looked at it and said, "what if we keep it a 2T but use that cam gear to run an oil injection pump?"

Hahahaha. Hold my vino.
Indeed.

Think I'll keep it old school - with perhaps a few tweaks…
🙂